Much as I'd like to pretend I didn't see him laying there injured, I don't think I could do it. Now, I might render his penis useless while he's unconscious, so that the wife would be coming to me for the good stuff, but I think I'd have to save his life.

Oooor, being the woman, I could just live out my MFM fantasy for the rest of my days.

 

I actually think this situation would be a lot more complicated than we give it credit for. I remember another movie with George C. Scott, Collean Duehurst (sp) and another actor. They were a mother, father and son stranded on an island. Everything went well until the son reached puberty, then he ended up killing his father and taking his mother.

Its hard to tell what the reality would really be once biology kicked in.

 

Says you. The law says otherwise. Deliberately not saving someone is an identical crime to deliberately killing them.

 

Maybe in England it is but not in the states. Plus you can kill someone and not murder them. For instance, you can accidentally hits someone with your car and kill them but that is not murder because it wasn't premeditated. Plus, as the OP suggest your on a island and it's just the three of you and only you see the man injured, who is going to say the you deliberately killed him by deliberately not saving him. It is a matter not of law but of conscience and if you're not condemned by your conscience then fuck what everyone else says or believes.

 

Oww ...that should not be an option .....a fate worse than death you cruel woman......ask Bob Dole!

 

When I wrote that, I pretty much knew someone would quote the murder laws at me... and I knew they'd misunderstand what I said because of it. I'm not talking about the law's definition of murder. I'm talking about my own view of murder.

(As this is a hypothetical, I'm using the OP's original scenario, as written).

I would feel by not saving him, and just walking on by, I'd be as good as condemning that man to death. I'm killing him by not acting, rather than acting... but the intent is the same. I want him to die. So to me personally, that's murder. Whatever the law says.

By the way how do you know that, before becoming a servant, I didn't study medicine? I might have been the finest doctor in the land, but fallen from grace after an unfortunate liaison with a patient. You can twist a hypothetical in both directions, you know.

More seriously, if you read the OP, the assumption is made that, if you act, he is saved. That doesn't require a God complex. Just the desire to prevent his death.

Bye for now - Fluffy McNoo.

 

Your right it's your peronal point of view but also ones personal point of view can be a legal one as well.

 

I have worked with many people who automatically assume that doing something the hard way means it is the right way. I often felt it was just doing it the hard way.

Not to pick on you there were several that brought up the punishment for past deeds issue, I just already have you quoted. For me punishment is a far distant second playing into my mind as to how this person would warp my life in the future.

 

This is exactly what I am thinking.

Now Fluffy, in an attempt to at charity and self sacrifice did you just accidentally reduce women to sex toys?

 

It was. I missed about the first 15 minutes though so when the voodoo chick showed up briefly at the end I had to wonder "Who the hell is this chick and why is she even in this movie?"

I think it is a matter of having real needs and the extent a person would go when forced to fulfill them.

Evidently the Greeks were really fond of the idea of sons killing fathers to get at the mother. In addition to the famous Oedipus, the first sky god (I can't think of his name now and I am too hung over to look it up) kept the Earth goddess (I think this was Gaia) pinned down and he was constantly inside of her so she couldn't give birth and no son could usurp him. She managed to get a weapon inside of herself and her son Chronos castrated his father. And then took the throne as the second sky god. He then would proceed to eat his children as soon as they were born so they could never get up enough power to usurp him. But the mother one day fed him rocks wraped in blankets instead of the newborns and Zues was able to grow and send Chronos to Tartarus (The part of hades later made up that is where the most wicked people are sent.) Zues rarely, possibly just once, fathered a son with another full goddess. And Apollo is somewhat effeminant, and even at that had instances of his sister Athena getting him to stand down from trying to kill Zues.

If PL were here he would know that first sky gods name.

 

if he was my father.....

i know its tacky to use a star wars reference but i couldnt help myself

 

Uranus

 

no, you're an anus

 

If it was in a war I would help the bastard die faster, after all it's war

 

I'd let him/her die, and i wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

I believe too many people want to be the "Hero". If a person deserves to die, let them die. It's not like any of us are going to live forever, why prolong the inevitable for someone who won't do the same for you?.

 

As a society we have become weak. Why is it that the Eastern Pacific is the fastest growing area in terms of technology and advancement? We lost our drive to survive. I would kill someone in a heartbeat if it meant protecting my way of life. I would have no problem in taking the life of another who ACTIVELY acts in adverse ways towards my life or lifestyle. No man was meant to tread on another, no man is better that other. Hence as a survival instinct I believe it is right to deflect someone who does disrupt your way of life. Obviously I would not condone thoughtless execution, and I tried to word this carefully to depict this, but the reason why man is where it is in the world is because we have done everything we can to protect the "heard" and allow for our generations to survive. This idea is not uncommon in more primitive animals. Plenty of creatures kill members of their own species, if not their own young to survive. Since we are not this primitive we do not need to eat our children, but we should not forget what got us to where we are now- survival instinct. We live in a world of consequences, and if someone ACTIVELY attacks you in a manner that affects your life why should you blow it off? It makes no sense at all in the real world application. If you threaten an animal, it will attack. Same reasoning, except we have the mental capacity to see that not everyone needs to be killed for cutting us off in traffic (although this would help with the global pollution problem faced by the millions of cars on the road every day)

 

If I had been mistreated by him I may let him die. Then again I am not really sure. That is on that I think you could never get an honest answer for until you are in the situation. Alot of us are more sadistic than even we ourselves know.

 

A person should beware of being vengeful though, Letting a person die for some sort of Payback, Isn't a good thing either(usually).

I just think that if it were me, I'd have to, in a sense, Rinse my hands of the situation, and not influence it in either way. It wouldn't be my fault the person died.

Although, The opinion i have applies to this very specific situation. I wouldn't think twice about trying to save the life of a person i don't know, To me it would just be an innocent life.

 

There are so many memes floating around now that self sacrifice is virtuous in most any form, it really sets up a lot of sheep for the people in positions to be wolves.