Both heaven and hell are states of mind and the after life is being in a spiritual body without flesh and blood in a state and condition without carnality. But why believe me we will all find out sooner or later. Some of us sooner and others later but we will all find out one way or another.

 

Well...MAYBE we will...but it's more likely that we'll simply lose consciousness and die with the unanswered question still burning in our brains.

"Wherefore, unsatisfied soul...whither, o mocking life?"

 

I thought this seems like an appropriate time to post this... enjoy

https://www.phespirit.info/momus/19900106.htm

Great singer, great song, and sums up this topic quite nicely!

Bye for now - Fluffy McNoo.

 

A process of logic therefore enquires.......

Until you're born again then?

Damn Shake.....that's reincarnation isn't it?

 

Actually that's when the unanswered question will be answered if it hasn't already. And if it was already answered maybe we were to deaf to hear the answer because of all the confusion and chaos that's going on in the world.

 

But how do you KNOW the question will be answered, or that you'll be there to hear the answer?

 

it all comes down to faith really and having the ability to put faith in something other than yourself

 

Yes, I guess it does...but Kool Madness couched it in terms of certainty, not belief, which I felt required a response.

 

what if i took it a step further and said that faith gives you a sense of certainty

 

Even though I've had too many experiences with things that I can only attribute to a super natural realm beyond this one, I think this is good advice and is the way I have lived by life. I don't even know if I've got another minute to live let along a life beyond this one, so I live like that, trying to make each minute of everyday something I enjoy and relish.

In fact I think I tend to live my life like I stole it.

 

Well to be truthful, the question has already been answered but because of all the religious dogma and religious corruption, lies and deceit as well as interpolations and mistranlations by King James, the Pope and those thereafter of the scriptures written by Moses and the prophets, we has become more synical, apprehensive and untrusting of what so called religious leaders of today as well as of the past say. Therefore we become atheist or agnostic and only believe in ourselves or nothing at all.

 

the claims of religion concerning 'afterlife' are preposterous. afterlife is death, death is the end of life. full stop. do not collect $200 do no pass go, its directly to oblivion. give it up. living once is enough you egocentric maniacs.

 

And I still think it'd be funny, if it turned out the atheists were just as wrong as the religious believers. No heaven, no hell, no reincarnation, no oblivion... yep, knowing how crazy the world is anyway... I could seriously see that happening.

Bye for now - Fluffy McNoo.

 

Your right and faith along with a knowledge not only gives you a sense certainty but stablility as well.

 

I'd say your faith gives you the illusion of certainty.

 

I just hope that where-ever I end up, I can still post on this forum and then finally get our night out with Kimiko...:rose:

 

*laughing* Well, I think you ought to pick up your pace a little...

 

so what exactly are you saying? what could it be?

think logically. death. you are dead. no body functions, no nerve functions, no brain activity. a lifeless corpse. the only thing religion has to bank on is the presence of a soul, which, once again going back to logic, cannot possibly exist. why? just how is the soul surviving? what gives the soul life? no air to breathe, no food, no body to exist within...it just exists out of nothing?

i wouldn't bet the house and the car on it

 

Totally!!!!

AMAZING ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hey Sexy..I have posted more this year than last year...Also it is very slow typing with only 1 finger...