I remember being really immature about the subject at school when I was like 14, and you just didn't admit it. Then you realise that everyone does it, so it just becomes something you laugh about it. These days I can just tell my housemates, "going to have a wank and a shower" and they just laugh. Funny eh?
I also remember the first time a girl told me she did it, and it was like some sort of massive revelation.

 

good hiding place ain't it. it's an old joke

 

question to whom it may concern..if i washed my dick a 1,000 times would you suck it?

 

Because we like to be very sexual yet remain publicly prude (there are plenty of exceptions)

 

masturbation and porn are dirty dirty things that are bad for you


muahahaha :-E

 

any replies??

 

uh the answer would probably be no, how many girls have you been with again?

 

well then if you wouldn't suck my dick it if i was it 1,000 times must mean your a dirty dick sucker.:excited:

 

im very comfortable talking about it, ive done it in front of people who wanted to watch. ive done it in public, in my office at work, while driving, hell im doing it right now!

 

i don't agree with you... i definately think men talk about it more, but i don't think they actually do it more...

+1... ish. I think kids need to be taught the basics of sex when they're about 14-15 (just before it's legal here) so they don't grow up confused and immature about the subject

I agree with you to a point. Faith should only be taught in school as a very small point, as a this-is-what -it-is instead of a you-should-do-this. but sex? what about those prudish religious parents who won't teach their kids anything about it? it's not fair on those poor kids... i think sex should definately be taught in schools, but masturbation is a fun thing i think people should discover on their own.

not in a million years

wouldn't suck your cock if it was clean, dirty, or glowing bright green.

 

I must be

 

My senior year, I was sitting in my art class and we were working with paper mache and the girl beside me laughed and said, "This glue feels like my come." I agreed, it was slick, slimy, and everything. Well the guys across from us freaked out, they didn't know girls masturbated. It openned a huge topic at our table. Only 2 of us girls admitted to it and only one guy admitted to it... the next day. He whispered to us then that he couldn't help it when he thought of the two of us gals. It was funny that only 3 of us admitted to self pleasure. They guy and I were self proclaimed virgins, by choice not lack of choice. The other girl had steady lovers. The whole stigma is people think if you jack or jill off, then you can't get pussy or cock... that you are pathetic if you admit to self gratification.

If self-pleasure was taught in my school, I would have felt less shame early on. I now feel no shame, it's sex with someone I trust, in the mood when I am, and know I won't get sick from.

As for your last question, I firmly believe it should be taught in school. Maybe not HOW but that it's a preferable alternative to casual sex. I may not be a parent but I do have a 12 year old brother who this past summer I taught about the birds and the bees... because a girl on his bus just a year older was pregnant. I asked him not to have sex until he was 18 or older, but if he felt the desires and couldn't bear it then to touch himself in a pleasurable manner to make the urges subside. He pinky promised with me, my husband, and his older brother. I know that sounds childish but to my brothers, a pinky promise is an unbreakable contract.

 

This is unacceptable.

Okay, this is gonna be long, but bear with me, because I want to open your eyes to the reality of growing up in this day and age.

You may think keeping kids informed at a young age is good and beneficial in preventing things like teenage pregnancy, and about drugs and every other thing they'll eventually come across, but it isn't. Like the things I mentioned, this is taking away even more of their childhood. Let me take you through an obviously abbreviated version of the average childhood in this day and age, so you understand where I'm coming from.

First off, well, you're born. You have however many years before you hit school, where nothing matters but being a kid, and you're innocent to everything. Then, you hit school, and up until about age 6, 7, or 8 on average is your "childhood", the time where it's all about being a kid, you're new to everything, maybe have made out with girls a time or two but nothing further, and you're still innocent, and still "just a kid", where everything you do is no big deal, and if you fuck up, you get a slap on the wrist. Next comes the years where you start getting into things, and you start growing up into what they refer to as "pre-teens". Maybe you start drinking, or start doing drugs, start experimenting with sex and shit like that, stuff that the generations before you started way later in life.

After that, comes the "Middle School" years, which is basically what the generations before's high school years would've been like. Most people you know have at least fooled around a bit, and a lot of kids are either fucking or doing everything but at this point. By these years, thanks to having more responsibility than you should have put on you, and being under more pressure, you've got the mental state of a high school teenager, some even an adult, because by this age, your future is becoming very important, and so you're under even more pressure. This is most likely one of the reasons so many young kids look so much older nowadays, because your phsyical maturation is very similar to your mental maturation(as in the mental age level of your brain, not your maturity level). Kids are making adult decisions during these years, many of which are very important in hindsight.

By the time you reach highschool, most kids aren't new to anything. Sure when it comes to getting drugs or beer or something like that, or fighting at the HS level(you could always tell when two freshmen were fighting) you're new, or even the competitiveness of the academic part of school, and all of the even more added pressure about your future and college that starts very early in these years, (and infact for most, it starts the first day of freshmen year), but for the most part, you've been there done that when it comes to typical kid shit. By the time you're a senior, you're an adult, and for most kids it's a long time before that due to all of the pressure and the way you have to grow up so fast, unless you're lucky enough to have parents who make sure that you get to just "be a kid" and they take care of everything, and it's not life-changing if you fuck up. Most kids aren't that lucky though. Why do you think so many kids commit suicide so young, or that there are so many kids having sex so young, or having a wife and kids, or being criminals or just their lives being pretty much decided by the time they're in highschool? YOU force these kids to grow up so quickly, and because of this, kids have adult problems in the years in which they're supposed to be growing up! Look on the forum even! You ever wonder why so many underaged kids are here? It's because by the time you hit 18 nowadays, and most people way before that, you're a full-fledged adult!

It is completely unnacceptable. Maybe it's okay for people like the characters in the movie "Kids", but I do not want my kid growing up like that, and no matter how much I do, it's inevitable if society doesn't grow up. The reason we have such adult-like children, is because we have so many childlike adults! Wake up People! We all need to grow up, take responsibility for our own problems, clean up our own messes, and guarantee our children(or future children in my case) the right to an actual childhood, that lasts more than 8 or 9 years!

 

Chris, if you're arguing for keeping your children in a state of ignorance in order to protect their innocence, I think that attitude is dangerously naive and doomed to failure. You can't change the world, and you can't keep the world from having an influence on your children. All you can do for them is to prepare them for what they're going to be confronted with. And that means you have a responsibility to inform them, and to instill in them the confidence and judgement to uphold their values.

Every day, I encounter parents who want to keep their children in ignorance, in the hopes that they'll never find out about sex, or drugs, or anything else they consider evil (like science). I pity those kids. Because all such efforts are for naught, and the kids are the ones who suffer. They need to see and deal with the world as it is, not as their parents might like it to be.

 

Nope, not at all.

I'm arguing that we need to let kids be kids, and have a childhood that lasts longer than until they're forced to grow up. We need to do this by taking all of the extra, unnecessary shit off of them, and taking responsibility for it ourselves. We need to stop making punsihments in schools and things like that so damn severe at such young ages, we need to stop putting so much pressure on kids or forcing them to worry about their future at such young ages, and we need to fix our own problems, instead of this "let me enjoy my life and fuck the generation after mine" attitude the current adults seem to have. I say we, because I'm not a kid anymore, and haven't been for a long time, and neither have a whole shitload of people from my generation, so when it comes to this subject, I'm talking as an adult.

What I'm trying to explain to you, is that kids are doing things like having sex and doing drugs and drinking at such young ages, because the adults of our entire society are too child-like, so these kids by the time they're having sex, are mentally teenagers or older, even in their pre-teens and before then. When you force kids to grow up that fast, they're going to grow up in every aspect, not just the ones you want them to, and it's the adults of our society's fault, and nobody else's. It has absolutely nothing to do with the media, or music, or anything else. It's because adults are forcing children to grow up too quickly, so they do, and because of this they do adult things like have sex at such young ages.

It isn't "just the way it is" or something we have no control over. It's something we are in complete control for, and for too many years adults as a whole have not done their job of letting their kids have a childhood, because they're still so centered on their own lives and their own happiness. For the love of God, you only get 18 years to be a kid, if even, don't force kids to grow up faster than that.

 

Kimiko, while I will agree with some of your points, I disagree on others and say you can change the world. Didn't your party just do that? You can influence your children in a positive way and teach them right from wrong even though society seems backwards. Kimiko, I also disagree on the fact that you say children are ignorant because they had less of a so called science curriculum than you. Granted, I believe in evolution 2 but I never fault someone for their beliefs. None of us here can definitively and with certainty answer any of those questions. Dkr

 

uhm I have a question chris, or everybody else....

you say you have to try to keep your kids kids....so tell me why America has all this teen-pregnancies? I am from Germany, as you may know, and I think we have a very low rate, if I remember right...i spend 5 month on an american High School and I knew at least 20 people, as old as me or younger (I was 15 at that time) that became pregnant during my stay, only from my High School.....

Here in Germany, I know not one girl, from any school, who is pregnant.

So tell you what....as I said in an earlier post, I didn´t have sex-ed at my school, normally they do have it over here, but not on my school, but though we had a teacher, who told us its okay to masturbate, she didn´t teach the technique, just told that it is not wrong to do...is that so bad, does that make me an adult now? I tell you what, it made me feel good....

Drugs, alcohol, and high standarts in school force me to be mature, not a teacher who tells me its okay to masturbate....

 

I agree, you can't teach EVERYTHING that we learn as part of our growing up experience and different kids have VERY different ages and stages in which they 'learn' things of a social and sexual nature. You'll get into a discussion about what age to 'teach' it at..... 5, 7, 9, 11, 13....omg what if they start before then....they won't know what to do !!!!!!(sarcasm) OR you'll end up teaching innocent young kids things that they currently can't and shouldn't have to think about.

 

what I was saying is that the only reason sex-ed at young ages is necessary, and the only reason kids doing things like having sex and teenage pregnancies and all of that happens is because society is forcing them to grow up too fast, so by the time they are at that age where they start having sex, which is wayyyy too young, their minds and their mental age is that of a teenager's or older, so it's just like when a teenager decided to have sex in generations before ours, and not the way a kid that young should be viewing things like sex.

Obviously Jamie, you went to a HS in the US, so I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, and you sort of said it yourself where I highlighted.

eggzactly.

 

Well...okay, but don´t you think knowing about sex, and knowing about your body is important? What if for example you´re a girl, you get into 9th grade and this cute senior guy comes across and says nice things to you, and just charms you, and then has sex with you, but you don´t even know what it means and that it can make you pregnant....that is the point, you have to know the consequeses, thats why you have to know about it.....

I really do agree with you, I think it is horrible that kids get little adults so soon these days, but they get anyway, through the media and all this things, so they see sex on TV at a younger age, that means they have to learn about it at a younger age....

I know it sounds strange now, but some kids don´t even know how to protect themselfes...that NEEDS to be taught.....

Don´t get me wrong, I agree with you, just saying that it is important to know about sex.....