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  1. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Weary but must continue to patronize DL.

    Read books by Howard Johnson on the effects of slavery, servitude and the african slaves in the Bahamas. One is excellent "the Bahamas, from Slavery to Servitude-1783 to 1933". Another good book on the subject is "Terms of Labor, Serfdom and free Labor" by Stanley Engerman.

    The abolition of slavery in the British Empire on ended slavery as the term, not in the reality.
     
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  2. Tom_from_northumberland

    Tom_from_northumberland OLD NOT BUT OBSOLETE

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    slavery was ended and replaced with bonded servents thats why somany men and women wher shiped from the sub continant around the world there was of cours smuggling which the royal navy tried to stop the US govenment protested at the royal navy stoping US flages slave ships

    the british government tried your founding farthers did not
     
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  3. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    No argument that the British gov't did try, only that the effort was not as strong as one seems to think.

    The founding fathers of the US did try, however the realities of times called for capitulation to the financially stronger Southern colonies. Much like what would have happened if the British colonies in the Caribbean were forming an alliance to fight for their independence.

    We are talking far different sets of circumstances.
     
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    kwheezy Porn Surfer

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    i love my penis
     
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  5. Tom_from_northumberland

    Tom_from_northumberland OLD NOT BUT OBSOLETE

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    but they were treating those people the same way thay treated poor white people in the UK bonded servants (surfs of history) where still common in the UK it wasnt perfect we know that

    the arguments started with the mythical god like status of the US founding farthers they were not saints they were self serving wealthy men looking after there own interests as nearly all wealthy men of that era did regardless of the consiquenses
     
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  9. Distant Lover

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    The British Army freed American slaves.

    Author: Lindsay, Arnett G.
    Title: “Diplomatic Relations between the United States and Great Britain Bearing on the Return of Negro Slaves, 1783-1828”
    Citation: Journal of Negro History 5 (October 1920): 391-419

    The humanitarian spirit of Great Britain which, by the celebrated decision of Lord Mansfield in the Somerset case in 1772 guaranteed to everyman his freedom as soon as he set foot on British soil, extended beyond the limits of the empire... his ideas were disseminated by the military authorities defending the Crown in America. During the Revolutionary War many of the British commanders issued proclamations of freedom to the Negro slaves. Lord Dunmore, the dethroned Governor of Virginia, was among the first to issue a proclamation of freedom to all Negroes who would fight for the King. Soon thereafter, Clinton,6 the Commander-in-chief of the British forces in America, issued a proclamation to the same effect. Still later, Cornwallis issued a proclamation specifying the grant of “freedom and protection” to all Negroes who would seek his command. Whatever motive prompted the issuance of these orders, it is evident that the status of the Negro during this “emergency” as regarded by Great Britain was that of a freeman.

    To these proclamations many Negroes responded. For instance, General Greene learned on Long Island that a group of Negroes aggregating two hundred (200) had in July, 1776, sought freedom within the British lines and had been accepted as a regiment in that vicinity.7 He reported, moreover, to General Washington in 1781 that enough Negroes in North Carolina to form two regiments had sought British freedom and protection and that they were being organized by the British...

    Carleton...said “delivering up the Negroes to their former masters would be delivering them up—some to execution and others to punishments which would in his own opinion be a dishonorable violation of the public faith.”

    ...the same policy in regard to the carrying away of Negroes was followed during the War of 1812.60 While the British forces were occupying the forts and harbors of the United States, Negroes came within their possession. Many were induced to run away...

    Many Negroes came also into the possession of the British by the proclamation of Admiral Cockrane of Great Britain, April 2, 1814, setting such loyal adherents free. In effect, this proclamation extended an invitation to all persons desiring to change their slave status.

    http://www.dinsdoc.com/lindsay-1.htm
     
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