Istanbul, Turkey (CNN) -- When Defne Bayrak arrives there is no mistaking she is the woman we have come to meet. Despite the cold she is composed and ready for the interview we agreed. She is ready to talk about the suicide bombing carried out by her double-agent husband just days earlier, an attack that left seven CIA operatives dead in Afghanistan.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/20/turkey.widow/index.html

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Fuck it... lets go nuke the motherfucker, donkey fucking, camel jockeys, inbread because they fuck their mothers asses and let god sort them out... fuck them... and fuck you if you don't agree with me....

 

Hell man I'm not going to agree with you. I ain't no terrorist and you're worse than one.

 

Despite the offensive and irrational nature of the OP's comment the link to the video is worth watching.

It should surprise no one that our opponents believe they are right and believe in their cause. But this is a frank look at what we're up against.

 

Lol "inbread", like a sandwich.

But on a more serious note, you are a racist. An eye for an eye is no way to solve this problem. Where would the killing cease? Each person's family wants revenge and continues to eliminate a person or two from the family line. Where does that put the killer? And who can kill the killer without being a killer him or herself?

 

well ... that is quite a fundamentalist remark that just limits the discussion isn´t it ? ... i apreciate that fact that the example in the interview given by the reporter about the innocent female CIA agent leaving 3 kids is upseting ... but U don´t joined the CIA by beeing completely innocent now do U ?

(yes, fuck me for not agreeing)

despite that ... this is an interview that should B seen by the forum members and a must see link !

 

Given the quality of your English, I would hazard a guess that you are the inbred one.

 

I think that it is good for people to see what the Coalition forces are up against.

Think of this, the suicide bomber is married with children, an educated man and he will still give his life for his religious beliefs.

I have always thought that it will be tough to get a result here.

 

I really don't think a lot of people realise that this is a war that can't be won. We in the west see terrorists. The Afghans see freedom fighters.

The problems us English had in Ulster lasted in the latest round for around thirty years. Cost a lot of lives on all sides divided the population further.

Everytime we kill a terrorist over there we create another freedom fighter maybe more, you kill a father of two sons you in all likelyhood have now got two further terrorists. Instead of lessening your opponents you have a net gain of one.

It maybe against all common western philosophy but to get any result in afganistan we have to get the taliban around the table and talk to them find out if they can come to a compromise, give them some of what they want.
We have to get back to the SAS philosophy used in Malaysia and win hearts and minds or this will rumble on without an end in sight till we just walk away.
That is something America cannot afford to do.

A tough choice my American friends but you will not win over there unless you go for a drawn game. You tried it in Vietnam to no success. Korea became a stalemate and a honourable draw.

Peace out.

 

Major differences here.

The fundamentalist will not compromise, it's his way or no way. This is true of Islamic or Baptist fundamentalists.

Extremism in the Middle East is not highly respected by the peoples there, any cooperation with the terrorist is out of fear. Most experts agree that as long as there is a Western society that does not embrace Islam, we will be targets for terrorism.

Sorry, but I must respectful disagree that the average Arabic person equates terrorism with freedom fighting.

 

We mustn't forget that the (Fundamentalist) Muslim world is a men's world, where women have practically no rights.

As a result, many women who speak-up, are very careful in what they say, often parroting their husbands, in order to not get themselves in trouble...

Interviews like the one in the link, must first of all be seen in that light.

On the other hand, for most Arabic countries, the peacekeeping missions of the USA and its allies, are illigitmate invasoions and occupations. I think each of us must understand how they feel, or at least, think about how you'd feel when your own country was being occupied by foreign troops...

 

Then the only option is to withdraw from the country and withdraw all aid paid to the country, why give them the cash and infrastructure to enable them to fight us. If they won't except change leave them to rot in there own faeces.

Neither the US or the UK can absorb the cost of a prolonged war on terror whether financial or human.

 

A Good American

If you were a good American, you would agree with me.... if not, then you are a commy faggut..

 

In Afghanistan, the majority of the people are moderate Muslims. Those are the people the West should concentrate on.

The Taliban is but a minority, but the most money is spent trying to fight them, instead of rebuilding Afghan infrastructure.

The West should finally do what was agreed in the late seventies, early eihties, and that is to rebuild roads, schools, water supplies, electricity generators. The Taliban won't be too keen on destrouning thois facilities, because it will get the people turning completely and openly against them...

More control on arms shipments and the Taliban's income (opium and heroin) should be exerced too, in order to prevent the taliban from keeping itself alive...

 

i must say i am very tolerant but ... U should have a thread of your own for these stupid comments ...

first of all i am not a good american ... cause i´m not an american !

2nd ... having a brain does not make me a comunist !

3rd most comunists are not gay

4th U R an idiot !!!

 

Most Afghans support continued presence of U.S. troops.

[FONT=&quot]NEW DELHI: A majority of Afghans prefer involvement of India in the reconstruction of their country as opposed to Pakistan, according to a new [/FONT][FONT=&quot]opinion poll. The opinion poll, commissioned by BBC, ABC and German TV ARD, found that 71% of over 1,500 Afghans endorsed India's role in the reconstruction of the country while Pakistan was the least popular country with 15% of the votes. India was followed by Germany (59%), the US (51%), Iran (50%) and Britain (39%)…[/FONT]

The other significant aspect of the latest poll was that there is growing disenchantment with the Taliban. Ninety per cent said they wanted their country run by the Karzai government, compared with 6% who said they favoured a Taliban administration. Sixty-nine per cent believed the Taliban posed the biggest danger to the country, and 66% blamed the Taliban, al Qaeda and foreign militants for violence in Afghanistan…

Afghans who were polled were also optimistic about the future of their country with 70% saying Afghanistan was going in the right direction. Just a year ago only 40 percent of the respondents had shown the same optimism.

Sixty-eight per cent of those polled also favoured the continued presence of US troops in Afghanistan, compared with 63% a year ago. Support for Nato troops also increased from 59% to 62%. 71% said they were optimistic about the situation in 12 months' time, while in 2009 only 51% had expected improvement in an year’s time.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-not-Pakistan-to-help/articleshow/5482668.cms

 

That interview

I saw that interview and to be honest, it made me sick. I do not like that woman and I think she represents evil. One poster, I forget who it was, said that perhaps we should pull our troops out of there and withdraw all aid to those countries. That made me think. I agree with whoever said that. That being said, however, if we do that and they still insist on targeting our country, then we should blow them to hell! I have no compassion for terrorists who target women and children in their murderous little jihads! I also think that the world should back off and allow Israel to handle their business. These people are doing the same thing over there and Israel should have every opportunity to defend its citizens. If the terrorists and the terrorist countries do not like the way we live here in the West, then that is a problem for them, not us! It becomes our problem, however, when they start attacking us, and if they attack us then we have every reason and every right to fight back!

 

I wish modern polling methods had been available during the War in Vietnam. I am confident that most of the South Vietnamese would have reported that they favored an American withdrawal, but it would have been nice to have known that. I suspect they would have favored unification with North Vietnam to the preservation of the South Vietnamese government, but I am less sure of that.

 

The problem with that, is that many of "them" support us, rather than the terrorists. Read my previous comment #15.

 

I certainly agree with you here.

 

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