wtf

 

I think there are different laws governing visual to the written media. On a moral ground yes ban them but again you slide into the sticky realms of censorship.

The saddest thing is that the crime as to be committed before they can be charged with it otherwise it just becomes a conspiracy to commit the crime, I'm not sure if they carry the same level of sentence but they should.

Lolita I refuse to read on moral grounds, and the bible is full of incest, rape, paedophilia and murder.

I have one comment about this post, how is sex morally wrong, there is no law banning it the only time it becomes a moral issue is if you bring religion into the mix, so no, sex is not morally wrong.

 

Before I say anything, it sounds like you're saying that morally wrong and lawfully wrong are the same thing. Maybe you didn't mean to, maybe you did, but in the end, just because something is morally wrong, doesn't mean it's lawfully wrong, likewise just because something is morally right doesn't make it lawfully right. That's because, after all, morals very from person to person.

What is a moral? It's something that let's you determine if something is right or wrong.

With sex being morally wrong, it mostly is the religious groups that make it that way, namely, if you have sex before marriage, that's a sin, which is a moral wrong. It use to be morally wrong to have sex for pleasure, or for women to crave it as well thanks to, well not knowing, but also religion.

But sex is still seen as a moral wrong in some eyes. Even today, the fact that there's that double standard between men and women when it comes to sex is a moral view. It's fine, or even good if men sleep around, yet for women to, it's bad. There's an overall moral compass for society to say women who sleep around are morally wrong, or they have loose morals which are a bad thing to have.

It's a taboo to talk about the sexual experiences you've had openly in public, and sometimes even private settings, for instance work, school, the mall, etc. A taboo is a taboo because it's seen as morally wrong by most of society. Even if it's a well know fact, it's morally wrong to openly say you have sex because someone may take offense to it.

And by the way, there are laws that ban certain aspects of sex in many states and countries. Though, it's impossible to enforce them, there are laws banning certain sex actions. For instance, oral sex is illegal in 18 states, or so is having sex with the lights on in Virginia. Thus, doing such actions, if I take what you wrote literally, are morally wrong.

 

I could be wrong, Rich, but I think this was his point. Some religions view sex as a sin in general (some even preach that you should not have sex unless it is expressively for the intent of procreating and that the participants should not get any type of pleasure from it at all), others that sex is a sin if taken out of the marital bed (i.e. no sex before marriage). Now I'm not religious by any means and I could totally be wrong on this, but it's my take on the matter that sin=morally wrong act. Not necessarily against the law, just morally wrong. In any case, I always think people who say sex is wrong outside of marriage are a bit touched in the head. How the hell can an act be a sin at one point in time but not in another? Either it is or it isn't. Quit interpreting crap to suit your own ideas of morality. If the worst thing human beings ever did was have sex outside of marriage then this world would be a whole lot better. But what do I know? I'm just a psychotic writer :excited:.

EDIT: and CasaDan beat me to the punch. Oh well, gotta be quicker on the draw next time.

 

Man some people are just retarded. The really "funny" thing is that people actually believe that reading about something will make you do it.

in that case: "kill your self, kill your self, kill your self with a large blade"

Did it work? Probably not. Oh well, can't blame a guy for trying right?

People have been barking up that tree sine GTA came out for PC, and probably earlier to. I have played a lot of killing games, and still do. But to this date I back away from fighting people, even those who deserves it.

Should Freud be censored since he wrote about the Oedipus complex? I mean seriously people, if someone gets his or hers rocks of by reading about little Michelle at age 9, let them do it. Who are we to say what people can fantasize about or not?

Like Sophocles ones said: "If my body is enslaved, still my mind is free."

And remember one thing, morality is relative to what culture and time you have grown up in. To say that what you believe to be right and wrong is a fact is really juvenile and close minded.

And if there's one thing I hate, then it's people trying to press their opinion onto others without any other logical argument then, for example, "the bible says so" or something in that path. Believe whatever you will, it's your right to do so. But leave the rest of us to have our own beliefs.

P.S. Sorry if my english is hard to understand, it's late over here and it's my third language.

 

English is your third language? You sound more intellectual and put-together than a lot of people on here who has English as their first language :excited:.

 

I'm envious that you can express such an articulate argument in a 3rd language - no need to apologize, well done.

 

Thanks. I started learning English at age 10 so it has been a couple of years now. (I'm 22). I get worried that the "natural flow" in my typing isn't there, since I don't write in English that often.

 

I'm sorry for any misunderstanding but I wasn't trying to imply that morally wrong and lawfully wrong are the same thing, I intent was that if something is made illegal, sex outside of marriage and strictly for procreation and not enjoyment in this case, then you have to make a moral judgement to break the law or not.
It sounds complicated but to make it easier look at speed restrictions. If the posted limit is 70mph on a stretch of motorway in good conditions would you stick to that limit or take it up to 90 a 100, a little faster, for a good driver it should be easy to do this without causing a traffic accident, but it is illegal and you have to make a moral judgement to break the law. Just like people who live in Iran, Saudi will make that same judgement and have an adulterous affair.
Sorry for expecting people to understand what I was implying.

 

The good thing about fiction is that it is in your mind. In your mind you can do anything, in your mind you are god.
I enjoy reading taboo stories, wether incest, underage, or some other topic. I don't really enjoy rape, violence or stories like that. That is my choice, there are those with other tastes and they are free to have them.

I love the freedom of speech right, and i have accepted that with that right to say what I want, comes others right to do the same, even if i don't like what they say. Racists have a right to be racists, they do not have the right to do what they please (hurting people etc.) but they can think and feel and say pretty much whatever they damn please.

Reading a story, or fantasizing about underage sex does not make me want to do it in real life. I am a zane person, and that means i can differentiate between fantasy and real life.

 

Was too lazy to read through the whole thread...but what's the problem with telling the stories, writing "21 years" instead of "12 years" (oh, how I hate pedophiles!!!) and imagine the rest of the story in your head!

Disgusting that you want to share underage sex stories here...

 

Maybe disgusting to you and a lot more people, but until there is a change in the way this site is run, under-age sex stories are here to stay...
I for one WOULD NOT welcome any change in the censorship of stories on this site. If you want to read sex stories where is NO sexual contact between characters under the age of consent, you should try Literotica...

 

hmmm this is what annoy's me the most. People Assume that it is ONLY their own countries age laws..... how old would be enough for you? 9? 12? 14? 16? 18? 21? all are legal somewhere and this site is INTERNATIONAL!


pedophilla is a matter of perspective because it has not only moral but legal implications you idiot.

I will say this, if you want incest at 16 (14 for any other sex) move to brazil. living with your brother/ sister...france..... nine year old girls china (i believe) 12 japan (i think) and there are multitudes in between.

as for writing it as there are some countries with no laws on sexual consent....techinally...I will defend the right to the death for any age...

Because I am a free thinker and thought...thought harms no one as long as your views remain views or are legal in your specified country.

On a related side note....the posters I am mainly directing this at (as I know the one quoted is not precisely a major offender)....seem...seem to be people from the U.S demanding others to turn themselves into the F.B.I or quoting megans law and calling everyone things like "sick fuck"

Do they have any notion that this is a website and that some of us would have to cross several oceans to do so?

Do they realise that in our countries sex with young girls, wether it be 9,14,16 or above is legal in our specific country..so it would actually be considered pedo... just young porn.

"pedophilla and all taboo are only illegal where the law says it is.... I can't judge...as if I were so minded I'd probably move the first chance I got and I will bitch at anyone who doesn't think before they speak!"

-- greenchild's eternal standpoint on the matter.

 

you have made a good point with a stroke of the pen the whole story does change.

 

i am a free thinker with the ability to distinguish and understand basic morality, i do believe in the freedom of speech.

how could a child become sexually desirable?

people in support of the dehumanizing pedo stories and pictures always cry about freedom this and that, but always stray away from the moral stand point or the reasoning behind it.

slavery is legal in in some countries sometimes referred to as bonded laborers (because of the debts owed their masters), public perception of modern slavery is often confused with reports of workers in low wage jobs or inhumane working conditions. however, modern-day slaves differ from these workers because they are actually held in physical bondage (they are shackled, held at gunpoint, etc.).

forced child marriages are legal in in some countries

women with no rights are legal in in some countries

the horrors of Saddam Hussein where legal

there are many laws in many countries, many horrible atrocity's in the world that are legal. just because something is legal (used loosely) doesn't make it right.

the question once asked "what makes man different from animals?"

why does man have so many distinctive characteristics?

• Humor: No other creature is able to appreciate, create and express humor. Not only does it require creativity, but humor also requires the ability to detach oneself from one’s surroundings to see the odd, surreal or ironic.

• Appreciation of beauty: Man is able to appreciate all kinds of beauty. This can be as simple as a sunset, a work of art, or the intricate design of a flower.
For example, take someone to see New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art, and he will likely feel emotionally moved by the seemingly limitless number of paintings and sculptures on display, dating hundreds of years. Take a dog to the same museum, and it will be more excited about the trip and seeing the crowd of art lovers than anything else.

• Self-consciousness: Beyond a simple recognition of self (as seen in a few animals), man can step back and become a spectator, critic or admirer of the world around him. He is able to see his place in the greater picture and analyze what needs to be done to affect his role.

• Awareness of death:

• Understanding time:

• Connections between words: While animals can understand simple words or tones, they do not comprehend syntax or communicate in complex sentences. Human beings have created hundreds of languages (and thousands of dialects), even though they are born without any way in which to communicate.

• Meaning of life:

• Malleability: Humanity is able to adapt to its surroundings. We wear clothes, build shelters or modify our environment to suit our needs.

• Lack of harmony with nature: When left to its own devices, nature will reach balance and harmony. Only man disrupts that natural balance: deforestation, changing the course of rivers, pollution, over mining for resources, etc.

• A sense of morality: Animals always take the path of least resistance. They do not have a conscience or sense of right and wrong. On the other hand, mankind will go so far as to control his thoughts based on what he considers right or wrong.

• Character: This is the ability to know right from wrong, and turn from the wrong and do what is right, even in the face of pressures and temptations. The desire to build character is only found in man.

• Free moral agency: Unlike animals, man can deviate from his course of thinking and living however he sees fit. Animals react through instinct—programming.

• Capacity for wisdom: Without the ability to place themselves in time, animals are unable to weigh situations with previous experiences. While animals are able to develop behavioral patterns based on positive or negative stimulation, they are completely unable to analyze actions before they are performed. This ability, known as wisdom, is unique to human beings.

• Love: While some animals form lifelong relationships for the purpose of reproduction, none exhibit a parallel with the human characteristics of love, in which a couple shares experiences, goals, dreams, hopes and aspirations.


The mind-body problem is a towering issue—one that dramatically separates us from the animal world.

There must be a reason for why the human mind is different from the animal brain.

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underage sex rocks

 

why does it rock?

 

Everyone keeps complaining about underage stories being allowed on this site even though they know that they can go to Literotica or Lushstories or any of a dozen other sex stories sites and not have to worry about it over there because those sites do not allow any characters under the age of 18, graphic violence, or beastiablity. Yet they continue to stay here and complain about the way this site is ran. I wondered why. But then I realized that if they were to go over to one of those other story sites and start bitching about the way that site was ran, they would be banned PDQ. While it may not be true, what it looks like is that the people who are bitching about wanting this site censored is staying over here because they do not have the same freedom of speech rights on the other sites as they do here. Does anyone else find this hilarious, or is it just me?

 

What's the problem?

I've written some underage stuff. That's how I started. The youngest girls were 14 and knew EXACTLY what was happening all the way through the scenes. Am I a "sick fuck"?

Maybe.

Would I fuck a 14-year old in real life? Sure, if I were still 16. At my actual age? No way.

Just because someone writes or reads pedo doesn't make them a child molester any more than a snuff writer/reader is a serial killer.

God, people, chill the fuck out! Read or write what you want, avoid what you don't like, live and let live.

 

Don't feed the trolls.