http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/22/abortion.health.care.vote/index.html?iref=allsearch

 

So this bill doesnt kill babys?

LOL

 

Not one point in that whole article does it state that the abortion issue was dropped. If you can find it, please show it to me.

 

What does a stand on abortion have to do with universal health care coverage? Abortion is something most women have control over, unless they are raped! Everbody needs access to health care - and effective health care!

Thank god I don't live in the States!

 

Because everyone has to pay for abortion now. According to the new health care reform bill that just got passed.

If you were pro-life and this is now demanded of you to pay the government, so they can pay for abortions, how would you feel?

Now according to the Stupak amendment, abortion cannot be paid using taxpayer's money.

See the importance of it?

 

The last thing this country needs is to be all left-winged liberal. If nothing else, we need more moderates.

More jobs are going to be lost now because employers can't afford higher premiums.

My concern also is the fine for not having healthcare. Those who are unemployed are really screwed! Also, what about those who are homeless? Is the government going to go out and start fining them too?

 

A+++ prtndr, if other members here can't see what you and I do who cares? really, this whole fiasco financed by us has nothing to do with your health, well being, or healthcare, it never did, it's about your freedom, it always has been, the Democrats want to take away your fundamental right to choose your own healthcare, sadly they are in charge now. Constitutionally I don't see how people will comply? I won't, oh 20,000 new IRS agents? gotcha. With public opinion polls soaring against this, look out because Rahm and the WH bunch want us all to return to our dismal lives watching dancing with the stars or being distracted by Lady Gaga so they can rape you, your family and everything you ever cared about. Obama is a loser, I said it from day one, Pelosi is worse, Reid to me is just dumb. Al Sharpton said it best, "this is what the American people voted for, a transformation". + pass it and then sell it???...gotcha.



"That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves."


Thomas Jefferson

 

Maybe you should read the polls, and talk with some information to back up your argument.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performance

 

i am sorry for this it is long are has im sure a ton of spelling errors but its just be kind of venting so if u read it gl


Do you understand that there are no longer any jobs in the us that offer healthcare to new employs, Do you know what that means for our generation and our children, it means at the rate things where going heath care costs in general because of the amount of companies that are dropping them will increase exponentially until the $13,500 it cost right now is less then the cost of healthcare per person.



With this reform healthcare is approximated $3,500 per person slightly more then Canada for the same care we are getting now.


$3,500<$13,500 Imo, the only just argument I have ever heard to this is “I live a healthy lifestyle why should I have to pay for smokes lung cancer treatment, the fat Anderson boys insulin shots b/c he drinks mountain due, the hooker on the corners abortions b/c she gets fucked ever thirty seconds for crack rocks, or the maintenance motocross rider who tries to do a back flip and breaks his femurs…


The motocross dumpy


In some cases you already do have to pay for it he can’t pay hostile bills so he does to free clinic they do shitty job he never walks again. You pay for his disability the rest of his life costing you 25,000(welfer, ss disibily, state disivilyi, PMA programs) a year for him to do nothing when he could have been working if received the right care and which would through just his taxes of 8k a year added onto his 25k a year he is drawing from the government a cost of 32k a year the government now pays out b/c he has no health insurance


$32,000.00 a year x 40years (his life after injury) ~$1,280,000 from the tax payers under last years governmental system because he did not have the healthcare he needed excessible to him

 

Wait till you get to be 80 girl. I still don't think I'm wise enough.

 

I don't know why i am going to stick my nose into this but most European nations have this as does Canada and they are totally not Socialist.

I guess if you are rich you don't like having to pay your far share of tax's and you don'r like having to help out your own country. WELL TOUGH SHIT!!!!

The middle class has been burdened with total BS amounts of crap. And you know what i am for this bill it "Grants" Everyone healthcare and thats great. We are only 75 years behind Europe. Seriously we should Follow Europe's lead there healthcare system is great and there Education system is 2nd to none while ours is pathetic and laughable.

 

I agree with that 110% Most College kids and high school kids becoming of age to vote are going Dem's. You saw that during Obama's Election you can only push people so far before they say FUCK YOU and push right back and you saw it in Ohio that wen't to Obama and Ohio is one of the most conservative states in the U.S.

 

Where are the democrats going to get their money from if not from the people, will they tax the pixies and faeries, come on the taxation of the poor working class and the richer middle class will continue apace as they are the easier target lacking the resources to hire top class accountants and legal services to protect their earnings.
The republicans do not need a massive swing in their favour to regain dominance. Unlike countries with more than two political parties in the US they only have to persuade the the majority of the 20% of floating voters to support them. The rest of the electorate of 80%, which is about 40% either way, are going to vote for the party they traditionally support

Also once again I see you attempting to blame your problems on Europe and England in particular, grow up son aren't you the last superpower. I think you will find that the US influence world wide is resented far more than the English one ever was; at least we took progress and industry to the far flung outposts of the Empire along with the small, by comparison, wars that we were involved in; what do the US take apart from not so smart bombs and the zealotry that your political system is the one that all countries need.

 

Exactly. I remember before 08, all of my working class friends supported Bush and were hard Republicans. That changed when their shit got fucked with, and the completely conservative area I grew up in voted for Obama as well. They fucked up big time and because of it their reign is coming to an end, for good.

Republicans are the radicals, not Obama. Obama is a moderate, common-sense type of politican. This is why we voted for him. Old money won't last very much longer.

 

you are a funny little old man with no real perception on things in the us except from what you are told.

 

Short version

 

You do realize that congressional approval is ALWAYS low, right? You can't selectively bring this up whenever it happens to suit your needs then disregard it every other time.

People tend to hate congress, but be okay with their congressman. It's always been this way.

 

I heard this on 3 different stations - no federal funding for abortions. It's how he got the anti-abortionists to side with him.

 

are you really that dumb?

 

Maybe if your moobs weren't as big as your brain is small I would take offence at that comment.