There are no atheists in foxholes.

 

Let's take it a step further. The Gospels aren't even consistent among themselves, the nativity of Matthew and Luke aren't even close in similarity. Paul's account of the crucifixion is inconsistent within his own writings between Romans and I Corinthians - and don't even try and compare it to John.

 

I'm not sure what that adds to the debate about whether Jesus lived or now, Yeehaarider, but thanks for contributing.

 

During my relatively short period on this planet i've learned the following:

Where as an individual may be smart, people are stupid.

 

As a combat vet and first responder, I've seen people die. They didn't go spouting that there is no God or no Jesus, quite the opposite actually.

 

How did I miss this?

Okay, but a billion more also believe in this: http://quran.com/

Are they right because they have more believers than Christians?

 

The ramblings of the dying do not serve as proof of a supposedly magical Jew.

 

Well......the ruling classes depend on that fact.......and I count the church (as a whole) amongst them.

It's probably no bad thing that Jesus was actually a bit of a revolutionary......

Can you imagine what he'd do in Wall Street thesedays?

 

You probably don't want me to answer that question.

 

JESUS WOULD KICK THE CRAP OUT OF THEM!!!!! LOL

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I love that the only time Jesus advocates violence is against moneychangers!!! :excited::excited::excited::excited:

 

I wasn't questioning your statement. I was just pointing out that it doesn't really reflect on this particular discussion.

Proof of God's existence, or a belief in such, isn't analagous with whether Jesus lived. Your statement, while intersting, doesn't add any evidence in either direction.

Thanks, though.

 

On the contrary, please answer:

 

ok......but I should first maybe ask where you got your figures from?

A billion more muslims than christians?

 

Yep.....

That side of his character quite endears him to me too! :excited:

 

It's just a variation on the old bromide: "There are no atheists in foxholes."

An interesting point, maybe, but hardly revelatory.

 

Fine. Hyperbole. Now answer the question: Is the Quran true because over a billion people believe in it?

 

And we won't even talk about the Bhagavad Gita.

 

I don't think the numbers have much to do with its veracity.......same goes for the bible.....and...with a passing nod to Kimi....the Bhagavad Gita too.

There's some beautiful writings in each of them.

As Rockprincess said much earlier in this thread.......each to their own.

 

you're like my bastard brother from another mother :laughing:

this thread isn't about whether or not he was the son of god. it's about whether or not Jesus of Nazareth was an actual living man.

a claim that can't be backed up by credible historical fact

 

The archaeological proof that “Alexander The Great” is slim bordering on none.


Proof that “Alexander The Great” existed comes from his impact on history. He had to have existed to make such an impact. Therefore it is a fact that “Alexander The Great” existed and “conquered” most of the known (western) world because his “conquests” are remembered today.


Proof that “Jesus the Man” existed comes from his impact on history. He had to have existed to make such an impact. Therefore it is a fact that “Jesus the Man” existed and “taught enlightenment” because his “enlightened teachings” are remembered today.


But why did it take a Pagan to prove this with logic?
Go ahead, rip me or the logic apart, I will “turn the other cheek”