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  1. scotsmitch2001

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    If jesus did exsist..Does that mean that satanists are right?
     
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    Got to love NDT:excited:
     
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    HA!!! :excited:
     
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  6. ShakeZula

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    Having a theist threaten me with hell is like having a hippie threaten to punch me in my aura.

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  7. ShakeZula

    ShakeZula The Master Shake

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    Aramaic was the trade language of the region. It was the common spoken tongue. Babies learn to talk without learning to read. Even you managed that much, I'm sure. Your average dirt farmer from bronze-age palestine would not have been burdened with an over-abundance of literacy. They certainly would not have been able to read greek. If they were traders they might speak a little greek, but that's the most we could expect.

    It's also how we know that none of the supposed apostles actually wrote the gospels. The earliest copies were written in high greek decades later, something which none of them, with the exception of Peter, maybe, would have known. And to suggest that they left Palestine after Jesus' death and traveled to Greece-where they then would have studied for several decades-is stretching credibility, even for someone with such a slack mind as you.

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  8. Fish Nipple

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    Funny, considering what you opened your feeble argument with is a double negative.
    THAT is not intelligent.

    Yet you yourself debate everyone by trying to convince them you are right in everything, while they are not.
    THAT is not intelligent.

    FISH ON!
     
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  11. filatovev

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    Well, i think it's a sort of a historic fact that Jesus existed?
     
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    No one is certain of the date of christ birth just the year
    and christmas originated as a pegan holiday later turn christian
    and back then they didnt have christmas the dates were made special because of those events
     
  13. ShakeZula

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    Really? Pray tell, where is this historic fact documented?

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  14. Distant Lover

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    H. G. Wells on Jesus

    Almost our only resources of information about the personality of Jesus are derived from the four Gospels, all of which were certainly in existence a few decades after his death, and from allusions to his life in the letters (epistles) of the early Christian propagandists. The first three Gospels, the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, many suppose to be derived from some earlier documents; the Gospel of St. John has more idiosyncrasy and is coloured by theology of a strongly Hellenic type. Critics are disposed to regard the Gospel of St. Mark as being the most trustworthy account of the personality and actual words of Jesus. But all four agree in giving us a picture of a very definite personality; they carry the same conviction of reality that the early accounts of Buddha do. In spite of miraculous and incredible additions one is obliged to say, "here was a man. This part of the tale could not have been invented." ...

    Jesus was a penniless teacher, who wandered about the dusty sun-bit country Judea, living upon casual gifts of food.

    - H. G. Wells, from Outline of History, Book VI, "Christianity and Islam," Chapter XXVIII, "The Rise of Christianity and the Fall of the Western Empire," page 528
     
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  15. ShakeZula

    ShakeZula The Master Shake

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    Why could it not have been invented?

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  16. Distant Lover

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    For the reasons H.G. Wells explained.
     
  17. ShakeZula

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    His reasoning is because the character Jesus has a definite personality. That's it? That's the best rationale you have? The bible is filled with contradictions. To use it to support your already weak claim just further undercuts your position. If all it takes is a definite personality then I suppose we have to say Beowulf was a real guy, too. Hercules, perhaps?

    Nonsense.

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  18. Distant Lover

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    I would say that there is a reasonably good chance that Beowulf did live.

    Nordic mythology remembered Attila the Hun as late as the thirteenth century when the Poetic Edda, the Prose Edda, and the Völsunga Saga were written down in Iceland.

    The Nibelungenlied, which was written in Germany the same time also remembers Attila.

    The scholarly consensus is that there actually was a Trojan War in the thirteenth century B.C. Homer wrote about it during the eighth century B.C. after a period of several centuries when the art of writing ceased to exist in Greece.

    The gospels were written much sooner after the presumed life of Jesus, so they are likely to be more accurate.
     
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  19. ShakeZula

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    The absolute best you can say is he probably lived. Or that he is an amalgamation of several people. That's it. Doing otherwise is just making shit up.

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  20. ShakeZula

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    Or, allow me to put it another way.

    Would you say that the girls who were accused, tried and executed in the period known as the Salem Witch Trials were really and truly witches in consort with the devil?

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