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  1. Jokers wild

    Jokers wild Porn Surfer

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    Just curious, Im very experianced in this since i was about 8..My whol family is involved, amd it has become one of the biggest Incest families Ive ever known.
    But does incest have any effcts on your learning?,,how bout future sexual relationships?..Let me know how you feel!
     
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  2. Distant Lover

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    "Adults who as children were incestuously victimized by adults often suffer from low self-esteem, difficulties in interpersonal relationships, and sexual dysfunction, and are at an extremely high risk of many mental disorders, including depression, anxiety, phobic avoidance reactions, somatoform disorder, substance abuse, borderline personality disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder...

    "Many types of sexual contact between children (e.g., "playing doctor") are not considered harmful or abnormal, but become child-on-child sexual abuse when it occurs without consent, without equality, or as a result of coercion. The most commonly reported form of abusive sibling incest is abuse of a younger brother or sister by an older brother.[25] A 2006 study showed a large portion of adults who experienced sibling incest abuse have distorted or disturbed beliefs both about their own experience and the subject of sexual abuse in general.[39]

    "Sibling abusive incest is most prevalent in families where one or both parents are often absent or emotionally unavailable, with the abusive siblings using incest as a way to assert their power over a weaker sibling.[40] Absence of the father in particular has been found to be a significant element of most cases of sexual abuse of female children by a brother.[41] The damaging effects on both childhood development and adult symptoms resulting from brother–sister sexual abuse are similar to the effects of father–daughter, including substance abuse, depression, suicidality, and eating disorders."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest
     
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  3. Foeofthelance

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    True, but that only holds for abusive incest. I don't know if there have ever actually been any studies on consensual incest, unless maybe the Kinsey institute has one. Probably for the same reason why you only hear about nutters who think God wants them to kill an entire shopping mall, and never the ones who think God wants them to make sure the local park is clean or to feed the strays that stop by.

    I know there are plenty of genetic reasons against it, but once those are factored out... Google doesn't have anything I can find, at least not on the relationship side. I suppose it wouldn't be any different than marrying a cousin or the like, and plenty of people make that work... So, as with any other romantic entanglement I would have to go with, "Depends on the people involved".
     
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  4. Distant Lover

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    "A recent study of children of incest in Czechoslovakia confirms the dangers of extreme inbreeding in human beings. A sample of 161 children born to women who had had sexual relations with their fathers, brothers, or sons were afflicted to an unusual degree. 15 were stillborn or died within the first year of live, and more than 40 percent suffered from various physical and mental defects, including severe mental retardation, dwarfism, heart and brain deformities, deaf-mutism, enlargement of the colon, and urinary-trace abnormalities. Inc contrast, a group of 95 children born to the same women through non-incestuous relations conformed closely to the population at large. Five died during the first year of life, non had serious mental deficiencies, and only 4.5 had physical abnormalities."

    - Edward O. Wilson, Sociobiology: the New Synthesis, pages 78-79.
     
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  5. Foeofthelance

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    Again, that's based on genetics and multiple inbreeding events. Neither of those have any bearing on the environment created by an incestuous relationship based on love, trust, and all the other things that go into a healthy relationship.

    The question is, does participating incest cause developmental abnormalities? The answer is yes, if the incest was abusive in nature. But any form of abuse causes developmental problems of one sort or another. Find a case study of positive and consensual incest, which is what the OP is asking about.
     
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  6. IVA HARDON

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    hell i fuck my daughters daughter and daughters,sisters,neices ect ect no effect at all all my kids or theirs ect were great in school and went on to college
     
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  7. fantasyalive

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    A HILLBILLY GOES HOME TO ANNOUNCE HIS ENGAGEMENT."PAW, I'M A GITTIN HITCHED, BUT THERE'S SOMETHIN YOU OUGHTA KNOW ABOUT MY GIRL, SHE'S A VIRGIN!" PAW IS UNDERWHELMED. HE SPITS OUT SOME TOBACCO.. AND SAYS "WE'LL HELL SON, IF SHE AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER OWN FAMILY, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK SHE'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR OURS?"
     
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  8. Distant Lover

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    Did they learn to write better than you?
     
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  9. Distant Lover

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    I do not think incest between a minor and her or his father can be considered fully consensual. There is a reason for age of consent laws.
     
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  10. Foeofthelance

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    Then how about their mother? Or their brother and sister? The wikipedia article mentions that "playing doctor" is an often occurring and often under reported event. Nor is there a defined age of consent for us to refer to. Are we talking a 14 year old in Iowa, or a 17 year old in New York? How about a household in which the parents are involved in consensual incest, and have a child who isn't suffering from genetic abnormalities? How does that effect the home life?
     
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  11. smcaaphd

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    Ahem *clears throat*

    I've been meaning to ask you, Iva - you always talk about shagging your daughters, granddaughters, sisters, mothers, and grannies. Are you the only male in your family? And do you live up a mountain/in the middle of the jungle/somewhere else that's mostly inhospitable? I mean, don't get me wrong, but I've never heard you mention any other males. So, by my reckoning, you're the only one accessible to the female members of your family.

    :???:
     
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  12. Distant Lover

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    You ask good questions. Nevertheless, I am glad I did not have to deal with this growing up.

    I found a survey on the Internet that indicated that about 15% of siblings engage in a certain amount of sexual teasing and experimentation, but that no more than 1% engage in intercourse. That feels plausible to me.

    The way I feel about things is that a certain amount of sexual teasing and experimentation may be acceptable between siblings if it is consensual. Nevertheless, any sort of penetration seems wrong.

    From what I have read from various sources, most incest involving under age girls is not consensual, and leaves emotional scars.

    Although many posters on XNXX are candid about admitting to incest and not being harmed by it, we should not assume that XNXX members are a representative cross sample of the human, or even the American population. Also, many posters are probably lying, at least I hope so. :eek:
     
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  13. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    I'm thinking he wanted a different discussion and posred in the wrong place with all of his 10 posts....

    Join Date: Apr 2010
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  14. chris_2010

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    i honestly have no idea
     
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  15. Incubus

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    if by growth you mean an infant born with a 5th limb then yes.
     
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  16. JakeYes

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    Incest is a touchy subject, since it really defines what taboo is.

    To me, I think it is unethical and irresponsible, and especially if there are pregnancies involved.

    Again, to me, Incest is in the same niche as scat and tampon-play.

    There are many biological reasons of why you should not inbreed, and I can expand if needed.

    As for psychological, it is socially damaging and generally looked down upon by everyone in all societies.

    There was a story in the news her about a year ago about a man getting his sister drunk off mouthwash then raping her in a park. She committed suicide from shame a couple days later.

    My reasoning is not from a religious background, more of an educated background. I am open to almost every sexual venture, with the exception of things that should not be done like scat, incest and overly violent sex.

    If anyone else here has studied Sociology and Psychology can argue me that incest isn't damaging, I would be interested to see how.
     
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  17. schultz

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    4.5 had physical abnormalities? I guess I know what the .5 had for a physical abnormality!
     
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  18. ohms_law

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    See, that's the thing right there. All of the other bullshit aside, the fact is that it's simply irresponsible behavior on the part of the adult in the relationship.
     
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  19. Jokers wild

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    Advice ?..From WHO?

    I guess it is what it is..I have never thought about suicide, nor have I failed as a man in any department. As a matter of fact, I come from a wealthy, and very educated family. I must admit that you all bring up good points, But to say that I was abused is a matter of opinion, and the fact remains, Im stable in all aspects of my life, My family is strong, All married, and only one divorce in the family since 1990. Kids are a/b honor roll, and very active in sports, and my relationship has lasted with my wife for over 19 years. I have my own company, and make more in one show, than most make all year busting there arse in a factory or Dr office.

    I dont see any issues?...And the age differance has changed in the family from when I was young! Nothing is kept from anyone in the family..Honesty, respect, Trust, and love is all a family needs in life!

    Only those who have troubles in there life and issues are the ones that mouth off and targets issues they know NOTHING about! The only thing they "KNOW" is what society TELLS them is wrong, so the fact is, they dont matter in my life anyways. You could only wish to live my life! If you have any questions about my lifestyle, maybe you can jump on your jet, and fly to the U.S. and we can have a sit down lunch..Or lets meet in New York for drinks, and a show....Whats that? Not within Your budget?

    Well then I guess YOU giving advice to ME seems kinda silly huhn?
    (Call me) ;)
     
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  20. tiffanymom

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    It is a tough topic as all the replies mentioning all the scenarios points to.

    To me it comes down to maturity, mutual desire and consent and being emotionally healthy about it. I think as long as the two people engaging in incest are mature and not self medicating a mental health issue and stunting the rest of their life by confusing sex with a love one should be a replacement for finding a real partner for real and long term relationship that the mental dangers are not that great.

    But if one uses love or other things to manipulate a relative into an incestuous relationship or pushes or accepts the pushes of a family member that is not mature or mentally healthy enough then that would be horrible and a potential disaster on the person that will affect them for the rest of their lives.
     
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