I heard that is untrue. And it makes sense- why would you laceweed with something that is even more expensive? Not a good bussiness plan.

 

1. Save money: workplace and abolish war on drugs.
2. Tax/tax revenue.
3. Usage would be better regulated.
4. Cleaner drugs.
5. Number of users decreases.
6. Crime goes down.
7. Rehabilitation/ help available for illegal drug addicts.
8. Black market minimized.
9. Creates more space in jails.
10. Drug trade legitimized. Help countries with drug runners/cut out portion of income for Taliban.
11) Liberty. This point alone would be sufficient for me to support the legalization of all drugs. It's not up to the state to control my body.

 

Four years ago my 32 year old brother experienced a psychotic episode that in his worst moments caused him to consider suicide. With the help of three different NHS departments, his family and friends he slowly recovered. It took about 18 months before he was reasonably functional again and able to hold down a job, even then he wasn’t completely himself. Three months ago we noticed that he began to take a dive again, he upped the medication he’s been taking since it started and is now back to the stage he was in March. Although he can now function again he will never be completely recovered and he has the dread of relapse to look forward to for life.

Why have I posted this? Because it’s agreed by the three authorities that give his care and by himself that MJ is the sole cause of his illness.

So please do not state that it’s harmless because for some it can cause seriously debilitating mental illness and in a few cases it can in a round about way be very deadly.

 

Your posts have always been well thought out, but that was a rather grandiose leap in logic. That is like saying "more people drank during prohibition." Come on now, you're better than that.

If something becomes legal, access to it increases exponentially. Of all the good's and bad's of legalizing drugs, the increase in usage is a definite, and a definite bad. Someone can go to the local 7/11 to pick up a crack pipe rather than having to go into a seedy part of town and deal with oddities and you tell me this decreases the number of people using a crack pipe? Oh, goodness.

 

Thanks, but I disagree.

It's not easy to know how much consumption increased/decreased due to the products' tax situations and the lack of production reports. Also, records that are available show consumption decreasing just before prohibition.
It's not the same at all. See my next post.

Not when said product has limits on its availability.

Except it doesn't happen.

Sounds like the illegal status of a drug is the only factor keeping you from doing it. It doesn't quite work that way, but yes, number of drug users decreases. Look up Switzerland's approach to heroin addiction in 1994, for example, or Netherlands' decriminalization of marijuana. Hell, even the reclassification from class B to C in the U.K.

Evidence > speculation.

 

doooo ittt!!!!

 

Sorry, you're not welcome. I got you confused with a poster by the name of HardDrive. Apparently his is not external. I'm sure your posts are well thought out though.

That is not an argument at all. The entire idea of making it legal would be to put drug runners out of business. If you do not supply to meet demand you will simply put them back in business.

Your evidence is non-existent, you make a sweeping statement and then a specific retort. If you wish to talk about Marijuana, that is one thing, but you said "legalize drugs" in general. You have to realize that drugs are entirely different, falling into categories of "hard" and "soft.". While a country could legalize Marijuana, as many have done, and be in about the same place. Marijuana has an addiction rate slightly lower than that of alcohol; around 9%, while alcohol is around 10%. Drugs like cocaine, ecstasy, and heroin however, have an addiction rate of nearly 75%. Calling for the legalization of a substance like marijuana, which is only about as harmful as cigarettes or alcohol, is entirely different than calling for legalization of drugs like cocaine and heroin, which not only get you hooked almost every time, but are much more harmful and cause psychosis regularly. Marijuana is a "soft" drug, hard drugs being legalized would be incredibly obtuse.

 

legal or not.. i got mines!! :excited: !!

*blazes up*

 

It's as much as an argument as yours was. Even if access did increase. It wouldn't be relevant if usage didn't. The entire idea is that prohibition does more harm than the drugs themselves ever could. By modifying the root of the problem we also modify its consequences.

There's no reason to think it would be different. And I did provide you with examples.

So what? As I mentioned before, studies show that usage would most likely decrease (yet again). The Swiss government experimented with clinics that provided heroin injections for small fees. The result? Fewer addicts, decrease in use by said addicts, less crime, new addicts fell by ~75%, etc.
By the way, a great contributor to the high number of addiction rate and ODs comes from the improper way drugs are prepared and used. They're mixed with all types of shit (for obvious reasons benefiting the dealer), varying impurities, crap substances used to cut it, lack of adequate paraphernalia/needles, etc.. And heroin has surprisingly low health risks.

Read post above. In addition to all that, more help would be available for addicts. It's easier to quit tobacco/alcohol because charities provide much help.

 

i may be in the minority here but, i think it should stay a controlled substance. i would be happy to talk about and defend my opinion as long as it doesn't turn into a OMG type of argument

 

Good point no oneios brealing into yor house to steal shiot to sell for a joint!

We just drive by our exitss and....oh shit I forgot what I was gonna say!

 

As a LONG time daily user (now 50 years old) I find it extremely hard to believe that marijuana is the causeof all yor bro's problems. I am thinking there is a genetic predisposition if a single episode of weed use can trigger a life altering psycotic episode.

Oher than that, I would like to ry some of that shit!:excited:

 

Ommy state you canhave up to anounce inyur possesion and all they do is write youa ticket. I LOVE weed and it should be legal to grow.

When I don't know whether or not to get stoned, I smoke a joint and then decide!

 

The government makes to much money by it being illegal. Weed or any other drug will never be legal as long as there's a government

 

not full legalization but decriminalization. full legalization means corporate control of the product and ultimately lower quality overall. plus there are thousands who would lose their only job that theyve had their whole lives. but no one should go to prison on a simple possesion charge

 

Everyone keeps calling reefer a drug..... it was a herb till the FDA said it was a "drug" go figure!

 

i agree but the government wants to make any drug use or possesion a life sentence if you compete with their dealers. as long as your a user they are not so bad because you put money in their pocket when you buy.

 

yea give it to us........then I was working at the race track I had to (talk) to people drunk and high.....I can work things out with someone high not drunk....so LEGALIZE POT !!!! thank you...........

 

I say legalize that shit. A ton of people smoke it anyways, so it would just make life a whole lot easier. Laws dont stop anyone.

 

No but the government makes a shit load of money by people breaking these stupid ass laws. That is the only reason it is illegal, money.