DL...look at the posters state....I will give you 3 guesses why he hates him and the first two dont count..........

 

First guess: boomerboy hates the President because he graduated from Columbia and Harvard.

No? Second guess: boomerboy hates Obama because he taught at the University of Chicago.

No? This is getting really hard.

What state does boomerboy live in.

 

Why does someone have to have something wrong with them if they have opposing political views to you?.... ie, Why would you call them scum?

 

Where did I call boomerboy scum? I just asked him to explain his hatred for President Obama. I do not hate George W. Bush, or Ronald Reagan, but I can easily explain why I regret their presidencies.

 

You know exactly what i was refering to doggo, go back to your first post in this thread, #2, where you called everyone that hates Obama, "scum".

 

Ouch! That ankle bite hurts. :twisted:

 

I was thinking more like a kick in the bollocks.....

Now can you answer my question...... Why do you have to insult people and talk down to those who having differing political views to you?

 

Don't you see where he lives...north east USA....most all those folks up there in the cold are rude...and they get real mean when it is hot in the summer....heat wave up there right now.....

 

I have to agree. President Obama has so far shown himself to be much more mainstream than different and he has proven very good at working the very same system he promised to reform.

But I'm going to remain with what I've said before and become more confident in it all the time. President Obama in my observation and analysis is the most intelligent, more effective and hardest working president I've seen in my lifetime. There is not question in my mind about that.

And I would also add that these two years have been no cakewalk with the worst problems in a generation facing us and real peril. Those have been mitigated and on a very complicated and dangerous world stage President Obama has performed extremely well.

This may be true. After all we not only have to pay for the stimulus package needed to save us from another depression we are also saddled with the $6 Trillion deficit George Bush and the republicans created with their lie and spend policies, while they cut taxes for the rich and corporations.

But at least president Obama has a commission working on ways to reduce the deficit which is more than any other president has done and congress has refused to do.

What taxes? President Obama and the democrats have cut my taxes and the rest of the middle class as well as cut taxes for small businesses and offered a host of knew incentives designed to help create and help small businesses.

The only taxes I'm hearing about is letting the tax cuts for the wealthiest 5% of our nation expire because we obviously could not afford them.

Fine if you're eligible for those things I say more power to you and go for it. I don't think you're going to get all those things. In fact I think your whole argument is pretty much irrational, illogical, false and impossible. In other words just more of the brainwashed right wing noise machine propaganda for the ideologically blind.

Since you're the one babbling brainwashed right wing noise machine snippets completely incoherently I don't think we're the dumbasses drinking the koolaid.

He can't answer that question because he's claimed probably 100 times now he never responds that way. He's above that kind of behavior don't ya know.:excited:

 

http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2010/0...-fast-enough-to-clean-up-their-mess/#comments

White people upset black janitor isn’t working fast enough to clean up their mess

By: TBogg Tuesday July 6, 2010 6:52 am





Official White People Spokesperson, John Hinderaker, is very concerned that the help is just shufflin’ around:

Disillusion with the Obama administration, which can hardly be disentangled from disgust with the Reid/Pelosi regime in Congress, is reaching dangerous levels–dangerous, anyway, if you’re a Democratic office-holder. In the Washington Post, Chris Cillizza points out that President Obama’s approval rating among whites is almost exactly the same as President Bush’s was two years ago. (I had forgotten, actually, that in 2008 Obama lost the white vote by 12 points. This was, however, a significant improvement on John Kerry’s performance.) It took President Bush seven and a half years to fall to that level; Obama, just 18 months.

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Of course it is important to remember that people failed to recognize the genius that was George Bush back in the day:

It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can’t get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile.

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Was that true three years ago?

 

This thread is the very reason why I do not support Obama.

First we get foot-stool-stumble giving us the usual talking points about how "smart" Obama is, without any genuine governing proof. I apologize though, perhaps to you 10% unemployment, a worsening war in Afghanistan, the worst environmental disaster in history, bank bailouts, and doubling our national debt, are all "proof" of brilliance. I would say it was quite infallible proof of something else.

Then we get a plethora of foreigners saying how much better he has been than any of our other presidents. Now that, to me, is reason enough to regard him with suspicious eyes. I don't need to say anything after that--their support for him says it all.

He is moving our governmental system in the direction of the U.K., which is why people over there love him to death, and why people over here are moving in the other direction. Forgive me if I sound like a nationalist, but your style of government does not compare to ours and so moving in your direction is, quite frankly, the wrong direction.

I do not find it necessary to blather on about American greatness, I only find it necessary to point out American power, and American wealth. Our government was the best prepared for the modern world, our control of the world market says as much. So for us to decide we should be more like Europe is rather like the gold medalist deciding he should take lessons from the guy who got bronze. It simply does not make sense, and I am a very old soul in a very young body, I prefer things that make sense. You will forgive me again if I see international "support" for Obama as nothing more than struggling countries trying to tackle the guy on top. If human history has shown us one thing, it has shown us that being the best, merely means having the biggest target on your back. I'm sure foreign countries would love to see us lose our wealth and power and be more like them. I'm also sure that is not a goal we should set for ourselves.

I must add that I truly love the people in here bringing up Bush and saying he was bad, and because he was bad, people now need to "endure" Obama. No, thank you. Bush was bad, Obama is just as bad. You do not support the devil because you've grown quite tired of Beelzebub. You do not blindly support Obama because you feel that "your side" deserves to play the bad guy for a bit. They are/were both bad, both leading us to bankruptcy, and we should accept neither of the two.

 

By what "analysis" did you arrive upon this point? Dreamy speeches and stony faces? How can one so bright as yourself honestly consider a man "the most intelligent," when he has thus far given us 10% unemployment, the gulf spill disaster (day 80?), GM bail outs, bank bail outs (and I know from your earlier post that you HATE corporate bailouts, so don't change your colors on me now), a worsening war in Afghanistan, and oh yes, a doubling debt.

Now I wont count him out just yet, but it seems like calling him brilliant at this point seems a little...blind. Wouldn't you say, dear friend?

My dear man, you must be so tired from walking on your hands; or has the rest of the world really flipped upside down?

Hardest working. Well I will agree. If by hardest working you mean, playing more golf in 6 months than his predecessor played in 8 years. If you mean throwing more parties than any president in history. If you mean taking weeks to get to the spill site. If you mean taking a month to get back to his general on the ground.

Again, we can't count him out just yet. But hardest working? Based on what...exactly? Would I be safe in saying you have lost your objectivity in its entirety and so no one should take your view as anything more than biased talking points?

Well it is now quite official. You are a blind, indocrtinated, Obama-nite. your opinion is lost to us all, because you no longer have an opinion to call your own. Why do I say this? Because you have just said this.

First let me say that you are a Nazi, no, no, I'm just kidding. You have the mind of a Nazi though. No good? Ok, let me throw out the word Nazi and throw in the word lilliputian. Ok, that is better.

You say the most frightening phrase in the world: "There is not question in my mind about that."

Now this is the most frightening phrase in the world only when it follows exactly zero evidence. And yours happened to follow exactly that much evidence. You believe he is smart on faith, you believe he is hard working on faith, you have the steel mind of a zealot. You do not need facts, you do not need proof, you believe in a human being on faith alone, your mind has "no question" about something that has not been answered. You may want to meditate on that. You may want to ask yourself what exactly you mean by all your "right wing brain wash" statements. Because your brain has been washed clean of questions sir. And so it is no brain at all.

Not to rain on your fun loving and surprisingly fact-free parade. But please, for the members of your audience who are non-believers, point out the perilous problems. If you mean the economic crisis; well he said if we did not act unemployment would reach 9%, so we acted...and it reached 10%. Is that solving something, or is that making it worse? You also realize that nearly half of that "need it now or we will all die! Emergency!" stimulus money has yet to be spent...don't you? Oh, of course you don't, I forgot that you are so enlightened that you no longer need to question your leader. Pity.

Oh I think I already touched on this one. Joy! Joy? The stimulus package was needed to "save us from 9% unemployment," not another great depression. The depression line, shockingly, only came up after the stimulus failed to hold unemployment at 8%. So instead we got 10% unemployment. And in case you suffer short term memory loss--half of that "emergency" package remains to be spent. God, what a savior.

I'm also glad you pointed out that ugly George Bush deficit. And it was ugly. Now let me point out that Obama intends to double it in his 4 year budget and that he has already added as much to our debt in 451 days as bush did in 3 years. But who am I kidding, this is meaningless to a faith-alone fellow like yourself.

The man has already put forth a budget that will double our debt. At this point don't you think a committee on the deficit is rather more like a joke on the American people? It is paradoxical hmm? Or, in the very least, hypocritical, don't you think? To double our debt while "talking" about ways to reduce it. One big joke. Hey, I'm laughing. And you? Oh that's right, you're praying.

You are right, Obama only intends to raise taxes on the rich. Of course, there is something odd about that statement. What was it? Oh, right. He wants the definition of "rich" changed from people who make 250,000 to people who make 75,000+. Hmm. Well, Stumbles, what do you think? I figure if each time we raise taxes on the rich, we change the definition of the rich, then soon we can tax the poor because they are rich by definition. Oh, what fun. But you're right, he's looking out for you.

Oh what was that he said: "Under my plan of cap and trade, energy rates of every household will necessarily sky-rocket."

Wow, so make the poor pay three times as much to heat their houses, well I guess technically it's not a tax. So it doesn't count--right Stumbles? Right.

Of course that's all you've heard about. It is, I've been told, quite hard to hear over a choir singing hymnals.

That a'boy Stumbles. Get them with the "right wing noise machine," attack. They are clearly the ones who are blinded by ideology. They probably say things like "there is no question in my mind about that." They probably call people hard working without proof of work, they probably call leaders smart without any proof of useful intellect, they probably condemn one debt while embracing another debt--a worse debt. They have probably been so brainwashed that they simply ramble off talking points from their learned view and never think critically, never challenge even their own "side." Yes, they are truly a horrible and sickly creature Stumbles. They are you.

 

What would you do?

Tell me your answers, solutions. Now is not the time to sit on your ass and criticize. Give me concrete ideas of what you would differently and why you would do it.

Or are you just the same?

 

Ten countries have higher gross domestic products than the United States,
https://www.cia.gov/library/publica...Norway&countryCode=no&regionCode=eu&rank=5#no

Including Norway, which has the highest credit rating in the world.
http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?info_name=sovereign_ratings&rf=0

110 countries have lower unemployment rates:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publica...ates&countryCode=us&regionCode=na&rank=111#us

 

The test of power is the ability to win wars. The United States spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined, but cannot win the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

China, that is to say, Communist China out produces us economically while buying up our national debt.

The United States is like an English aristocrat who maintains appearances by selling off the family estate.

You do not seem to be noticing, Dante, but history is passing the United States by.

 

Again, your bluntness is breathtaking, your brightness is bewildering, and your bumblebees have been bedded by big black wasps.

Forgive me but it was necessary. The test of power is more than the ability to win wars. Forgive me, as you are so brilliant, I am sure you noticed that we no longer live in the time of Genghis Khan. Things are not quite so simple anymore. The U.S. has more economic power than any country in the world, our currency holds up the entire world and a failing in the U.S. economy would drag down the whole globe. That kind of necessary dependency is modern power. A power unrivaled.


As far as the military is concerned, yes we spend the most, and yes we are the most powerful, and yes you are a child. I throw that last tidbit in as more than mere insult, it is mere fact. Only a child could approach the wars in the middle east with such pitiable simplicity. We do not level houses in the middle east, we do not shoot first, we do not drop bombs in cities, we are not fighting a war. We are fighting skirmishes with gorillas who are dressed like civilians. Were we under immediate threat and in the mood to conquer Iraq and Afghanistan, we could level them in a day. But once again, you do not understand that we are killing a few while liberating many, something entirely different than simply crushing another nation. Your simplicity is stunning, but not surprising. "Why don't you just win the war in Iraq??? HUh???" I mean really now, you must be putting me on.

I truly enjoy how you put communist in big red letters like a proud flag you can wave. It is so true of your kind. What are you? Indoctrinated American who has been taken in by professors who hate capitalism and glory in communism and socialism, never reminding themselves of the hundreds of millions dead on those Utopian altars? Or are you merely a European who is still going with the "anything is better than the U.S." line?

To answer your fiery little statement. GDP is what matters on the international scale, and ours remains twice that of China. Your GDP is your power standing in world's financial affairs, so forgive me for not dawning my Mao shirt just yet ( I'm sure your professor wears one). Though I will agree that we need to stop selling debt to China, but that starts with ending our slippage into debt, and that starts a whole 'nother discussion about our terrible politicians as of late.

You are like an English aristocrat who says that the Duke next door is suddenly poor because he only has twice as much money as everyone else, when he used to have three times as much.

Put more simply. You are like an aristocrat who doesn't understand the aristocracy.

And where exactly is it going to? The world remains fully focused on us, international news revolves around us, a history book about this decade would talk mostly about terrorism and our liberation efforts in the middle east. Who else does the world speak of? It may be arrogant, but the truth cannot always be small and humble. That statement is another sad joke on your part, or another sad joke against you.

I know you want to try that communist/socialist utopia again, since it worked so well the last time, but have patience, love. For now you just get to cringe as the big bad empire does big bad things like paying people fair wages and liberating backwards nations. Oh, I know, there, there, we'll be back to Soviet Russia soon.

 

I see what you're saying. When things go bad, it always has to be the President's fault. If there is a recession, get rid of the president. If there is still a recession with a new president, get rid of him too. Eventually, after circulating through tens or hundreds of presidents, the recession will finally be over because we will have finally found the right president.

I know people that have been divorced multiple times that think like you. If you aren't happy with your current spouse, get a new one. Five marriages later there is still a problem and it must be the spouse, right?

 

Exactly. I don't hate him. I think he will be recorded as the worst president in US history, even worse than Carter. I think his policies are destroying this country. But I do believe he thinks he is doing what is best, no matter how wrong he is.

I don't hate the man. I don't know him. But he is damaging us beyond repair. Just my opinion.

 

If I am indoctrinated, who is doing the indoctrinating? I prefer European social democracy to the American free enterprise system, but I am frequently flamed on XNXX by stumbler, Resident of Maryland, and others because of my support for Israel, and my agreement with The Bell Curve.

In general, I disdain the constraints of political correctness, and am quite willing to discuss the high rate of black crime, which I do not attribute to "white racism."