No, my dear Maryland, I'm going to "retreat" because you still haven't offered one opinion, viewpoint, or argument. I could bang my head against this wall all day, but if you were capable of discussing politics you would have asked me for my individual opinion on issues and then presented your alternative opinion. Without the very foundation of a political discussion, how can we even pretend to be having a political discussion?

No, my dear, not before this post you didn't. I gave you a piece of logic to refute, you ignored it, therefore I ignore you. Your time may have no value, but I get paid well for mine.

 

If America is destroyed, can I have their bedroom?

 

*hides the bats*

 

You haven't done ANY logic. Not only that, but this little bit that addresses two sentences in the entire post?

You're done.



P.S - My invitation was implied with this:

 

Oh cool you're still talking. You had your chance. Pretend to take a moral high road, declare victory, I really don't give a damn what you do. From the beginning I have stated my opinion and you have done nothing beyond ridicule, stereotype, and insult. I'm only responding to you right now because I can't wait to see you respond again, and I know you won't unless I do first. I've been linking friends to it all day to laugh at you.

 

Oh and my favorite part today...

Oh no, my troll has seniority! hahahahaha! You could get me banned for all I care, you honestly think I give two shits about a little internet forum?

If your post count here is an accomplishment to you, I'd like to see your bank statement!

 

Three Problems With the Tea Party

When those in the Tea Party say they want "lower taxes, less government," they really mean they want to pay lower taxes. What is more, they do not want to cut military spending. If anything, they want to spend more for the military.

I can think of three problems with this. First, the American people already pay lower taxes than people in nearly every other affluent democracy.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/09/tea-party-taxes-opinions-columnists-bartlett.html

Second, the United States spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined.
[FONT=&quot]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/spending.htm

Third, every spending program has a powerful constituency to protect it. The largest and most expensive programs are the most popular. It is not politically possible to reduce domestic spending. Thirty years after the election of Ronald Reagan, and ten years after the election of George W. Bush, this should be obvious.

It is dishonest and immoral to claim that we can balance the budget with painless, unspecified spending cuts.
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welcome back to the real world

cuts hurt and some one suffers

we are going through some biggies here in the UK and although it has to be done it is not painless

and as the US now has universal health care the budget deficit will just get worse

unless a tight control is kept on spending and people are honest with there expectations and understand that they cost money

 

You posted twice.


I'm glad that your friends know that you're desperate for poon and trying to pick up women here.

This is, of course, assuming you have friends with which to share such things with.

 

If I'm going to keep enjoying this, you're going to need to do better. That was pretty weak. Perhaps your failure at bringing insults that are at least a little less common than the textbook internet insults is actually another indication of your lack of intelligence.

I would reference your previous statement in which you claim that since I am "the noob" you are the one who gets to decide if I am a troll, insisting that such is a right I do not have. Now, for purpose of absolute clarity I have considered multiple possible interpretations of that statement. It seems unlikely that you're referring to age, as I've simply never heard the word "noob" used in such a manner. I can only assume that you are referring to some type of "seniority" on this internet forum. That would mean you were relying on your post count and registration date as a means of expressing superiority over me in this particular venue.

Now, it's safe to say that your post count and/or registration date are both numbers that you are well aware of and use as a means of comparing your worth to others. With that said, it is safe to say that you care about your "status" (as defined by post count and/or registration date) on this website and find some form of satisfaction in it, possibly even a hint of self worth.

With that foundation laid, I can say that logical thought based on the information provided to me throughout your posts has lead me to the conclusion that you are not a loner in life, but you do frequently feel lonely. You most likely receive no sense of accomplishment from the work you do. Almost every day is a struggle to find meaning and purpose. You frequently invent enemies as well as inheriting them from your trusted media sources. You are a person who is easy to anger, and for that reason you don't find yourself with many friends. You justify it by turning the people who don't like you into enemies by forcing them to fit a stereotype that you've constructed for them, this makes your lack of companionship sort of a "mission" for you, and you pretend that it fills the void. You frequently attach yourself to causes but never actually contribute to them. I would bet that most of the time you don't even vote, although you probably tell people that you do. You wish that you were closer to family, but many of those relationships have failed you. You, of course, blame them for this. At the end of the day when your head hits the pillow you know you aren't happy. You're miserable. The only way you are able to sleep those nights is by, once again, convincing yourself that your unhappiness is simply the result of being a genius in a world filled with idiots and that fighting such a battle (even though you don't actually fight it, just talk about it) is quite difficult. You've thought about suicide more than a few times in your life. The thought scares you but it also brings with it a sense of calm. You might do it, eventually.

Now, you've been schooled on how to insult.

 

Congratulations :-| (not really) . . .

Back to the topic at hand, and since you seem willing to actually spend some time and energy on the subject, perhaps you can help me discern a few things about tea partiers and their ideas.

I have asked and asked and asked, here and in person, dozens of Tea Partiers - if elected, what - exactly - will you do to accomplish your stated political goals. A few have tried to answer, but never get specific. A genuine 3rd party ought to come to the table with clarity and get more vague over time (joining their inept 2-party siblings eventually), this party is starting about as muddy as can be.

I'd really like to support a 3rd party - but not because someone told me to go to the window and shout "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!".

Thanks!

 

Support a third party?? The tea party is not a third party, and they are not extremists as the media and the libs claims.

 

Honestly it's something that voters are guilty of on all sides equally. Your average voter doesn't vote on specific policies, they vote on attitude and over simplified promises. I mean, just look at 2008. Good luck finding an Obama voter that year who had a clue what policies they wanted to actually "change" or how, because Obama's political record made him a wild card at best up to that point. I could say the same about McCain and his supporters.

Now, a lot of people would shake their heads and laugh when I link this, but check it out.
http://www.gop.gov/solutions

Read their health care proposal. It isn't new by any means. From the moment H.R. 3200 hit the spotlight there has been a republican version of a health care bill. The republican policies are absolutely the ones to pay attention to. The tea party is nothing but a bunch of republicans that hate the current administration and are equally as prepared to renounce the republican party if it doesn't actually put forth an effort to push a truly conservative agenda. They're not a true party in most respects, but if the republican party doesn't please them they absolutely will be.

 

Uhhhmm, yes, support a 3rd party - you know, a credible political organization that is not either the Democratic or Republican party. I never claimed they were extremists - but I do claim that they are fairly clueless once you peel back their superficial anger about taxes.

 

No truer words could be stated.

 

Ah - ok. Well, if they don't have any original thoughts or ideas to bring to the table, other than making sure their candidates are real Republicans, then I am content to continue to see them as irrelevant. Thanks for the clairification!

 

Not only taxes, but the spending spree the the government has been on for a few years, there's where the anger stems from, nothing more nothing less.

 

Remember, a political party is who you vote to represent it. It's not an entity itself, its the entities inside of it that make it what it is.

 

What do you mean here, what do the progressive liberals stand for, what do the 'blue dogs' stand for, what does either political party truly stand for, as far as I cant tell,, they all stand for a 'set of ideals', am I wrong?