The United States is a center right country. This is because most whites do not want their tax money helping blacks. Whether or not this is "racist" depends on how one defines the term.

In the late 1990's George Will said of the United States, "The parties are polarized, but the people are not."

Because of the Great Recession, the American people have become polarized, perhaps as much so as during the late 1960's and early 1970's. There is a feeling that we are playing a zero sum game, and that gains by a group one dislikes means losses for oneself.

From the end of the Second World War to the recession of 1974 economic growth was significant, and broadly based. However angry Americans might be about the War in Vietnam, the anti-war movement, the ghetto riots, and so on, most were better off economically than ever before in their lives.

Because the median income adjusted for inflation has declined since the end of the Clinton administration, the current polarization is potentially more dangerous.

 

Boy Ace that was a stupid straw to try and grab onto.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/18/ftn/main6689716.shtml

And its a lot more than that Ace. Harry Reid has opened an eight point lead over Sharron Angle in Nevada and now Rand Paul's opposition to the civil rights act (a very stupid thing to even bring up after all these years) and worse his flip flopping on it has but him in a dead heat with his democratic opponent it was is supposed to be a sure fire Republican/Tea Party win.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/ppp-poll-rand-paul-and-jack-conway-tied-in-ky.php

The racist and the union label ain't the same Ace. You conservative/Republicans/Tea Baggers ought to figure that out.

 

Where's that Ace. Got a link to it? I'd like to collect on that. Show it to me.

Neither you nor all the many manifestations of the Tea Party can claim anywhere near the support of the American People. Last time I checked the Tea Party was less than 30%

No it doesn't happen all the time in the democrats. If it did you or your buddy Dante could post some and I sure haven't seen them yet.

Well that's total bullshit Ace. Tea Party members and people who speak for the Tea Party have definitely promoted armed revolution and assassination as a remedy for losing an election.

We've already provided your buddy Dante with all that.

Ace a yellow dog could get elected in Nevada above Sharron Angle because she has proven to be a bonafied nut case.

 

Oh fuck you Ace. That was a $100,000 reward for anyone who could prove Tea Party members hurled racial slurs a the Congressional Back Caucus meeting.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=60081#ixzz0jlJyPvW0

Fucking asshole got me all excited about nothing. Like I told phony fuck .. I mean Dante ........... all I'd had to have done to collect that hundred grand is send them Mark Williams letter.

Let me ask you another question though Ace? I was wondering why the leader of the Tea Party Federation and the Republican Party are black?

Because they're the best men they could possibly find for the jobs?

Ace, in about three lines in a long, long speech, the NAACP leader challenged the Tea Party to denounce the racists among them just like the NAACP did.

I mostly watch CNN and HNL news during the day with occasional channel surfing to Fox and other channels. The only spokesman for the Tea Party movement I've seen is Mark Williams.

This was his response to the Tea Party taking a stand against racism:

And you're going to sit there and try to tell me its the NAACP and liberals using the race card? That's the most offensive, most outrageous, most overtly racist in every stereotype detail I've seen since the 1960's.

Then all of a sudden today. Like a miracle. Out of nowhere comes the leader of the Tea Party Federation who had just expelled the Tea Party Express. No of course not, (just like you) they didn't kick the Tea Party express for being racist. They kicked him out "because he was a self promoter."

Yeah right. Its jut the NAACP and the no such thing and never was liberal press.

And this is your proof that liberals and democrats are also racists or have advocated armed revolution or assassination as a remedy for losing an election>

Fuck I need two of these this time.

I think you can find most of them right here in the apatly named thread the Tea Party Will Destroy America thread.

https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=165264

No because she believes if you get raped and get pregnant that's good. It's just part of God's plan. Because she suggested a second amendment or in other words assassination as a remedy for Harry Reid. And because before she did a complete 180 flip flop she also advocated ending social security and public education.

I know you think that's a great idea but that makes you guys right up there about 10 fucking % of people in the US.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/morning-fix/1-2-colorado-republican-gubern.html

And the worst thing is you Tea Baggers went down there, made a big old production claiming you were going to fire Harry Reid, promoted Sharron Angle past all the other GOP candidates that might have had a chance against a guy with an approval rating in the 30's and she turns out to be a fucking ding bat.

And don't try and blame that on the liberal/Democrats. That's you Tea Baggers and Sarah Palin all the way.

Oh yeah I'll put my wife up against both of yours (or was it more) any day tenguy.

And besides she knows I'm not going anywhere.

But sure as hell tenguy Deidre79 does have more balls than you do.

 

You sure about that Ace? Real sure? You ought to know me by now.

 

Considering that the Good Ol' U S of A advertizes itself to the world as the land of opportunity, how can you possibly say that any nationality is not welcome in your country. I am not saying any radical is welcome, but that means there are a lot of radical reactionaries who should rethink why they deserve to be citizens of a country which might have been great if only they had chosen to be open to all, as a multicurltural society.

 

You are really a pathetic loser.

You have no fucking clue as to my situation nor will you ever have one.

You on the other hand come in here like some tough asshole who tries to intimidate others into submission. Yet you chose to fight like a loser, picking your fights for attention. Your insane obsession with Deidre is very telling of your tactics and of your inferiority complex. If you don't like what she says, ignore it, stop making yourself look more like an ass.

 

Then don't try to play the stupid fucking games if you can't take it tenguy and have to start crying about it.

Who drug the wives into your personal pissing contest tenguy?

You did you hypocritical fuck.

 

Yes I did, I dragged your wife into this because you have an obsession, was surprised she supported you in it.

Now who the fuck is crying? You are, trying to build your following on the backs of others. That is a fucking shame.

A pissing contest is what you have going with Deidre, this is nothing by comparison.

Go stroke your ego.

 

It's pretty amazing how he insults you then whines and moans when you insult back. This is why you shouldn't go spouting your mouth off, tenguy. You don't insult somebody then cry when they defend themselves.

 

Oh come tenguy you're just parroting the obsession thing because I often point out your obsessive/compulsive pissing contests you always have to try and start with me.

But since we're still on that apparently how would your wives have looked at it. Would they have supported you? How many of them were there anyway? Why'd they leave your ass?

You were in the post before and now you're just crying and taking an ass kicking at the same time.

You god damned right I do tenguy. And not just a fucking pissing contest. A fucking fight to the finish with Deidre79 and his phony hurtful and destructive games which reminds me where is that little game playing, gender switching, trouble making dude with a pretend pussy you chase around out of sheer desperation for female attention from a male?

 

Bullshit Ace. Read your own sources.

Ace, the tea party was lucky enough to not have a tape of that when myself and others have posted lots of pictures of Tea Party RALLIES, Tea Party NATIONAL EVENTS AND PROTESTS, with the President of the United States of America depicted as an African Witch Doctor.

Fuck it Ace I don't have to go any further in my mind than that.

Ace that's just how fucking STUPID Mark Williams was. He had no fucking idea just how far out of line he was and how he literally reinforced every racist view possible.

The real question is; do you?

You may not be Ace. But it is absolutely ridiculous at this point to try and claim the Tea Party et al has not only demonstrated a tolerance for racism and racists, but now just puked out the most notable example of it since the 1960's.

Let me tell you anyone who can read that without cringing has no fucking clue about race relations let alone racial tensions in the US. And most importantly of all no idea how repulsive what Williams wrote really is.

Really?? I don't know about that. Why don't you tell me about David Webb of the National Tea Party Federation. I'd never heard of him before today. How much do you know about him.

And you've never noticed Steele of the GOP in the news. You know for saying things like the war in Afghanistan (a conservative/Republican initiative) was Obama's war and essentially lost.

You know some of those GOP Hawks were none to happy about that.

But I was just wondering what makes them the best men for the jobs Ace?

Can you tell me that?

Only when they find some? Well they just did didn't they?

But ya know what Ace I have to give you and the Tea Party the benefit of the doubt here. The Tea Party Federation did expel Mark Williams and the Tea Party Express which, even though they denied it for some stupid reason, proves the Tea Party at least took a stand against overt racism in their ranks.

Does that prove the Tea Party is not racist or even tolerant of racists views in their party? Well, no, I can't go that far with you. That remains to be seen.

And rest assured everyone will be watching.

I had to laugh Ace. The only thing you can validate on Fox news is your pre programmed right wing noise machine propaganda. I go there to see what fuck ups the opposition is pulling off and to get the spin.

But the point (remember that) really is that whether its CNN, HLN, Fox or the internet Mark Williams is the only Tea Party leader and spokesman I can associate with the Tea Party movement.

I think that's a problem Ace because I think most Americans are as lazy as I am when it comes to researching the Tea Party so all most of them know is the Tea Party was accused of being racist by someone (most probably won't know or recognize the NAACP) and Mark Williams proved it better than anyone since George Wallace.

Oh God Ace I had to fall down laughing over this one. You're absolutely right the Tea Party needs a voice because the only one the vast majority of Americans have heard is Mark Williams.

You better get a voice and get it quick. So who's voice is it going to me. Because no one can make sense out of a couple million screaming motherfuckers.

No ya can't Ace. There ain't no way. You can be a bunch of pissed off individuals and walk in the voting both like that, but you'll just be pissing in the wind. No organization, no mission, no definition, no leader. Bet your ass as a Democratic precinct committee man; give me some more of that.

Ace have you ever, and I mean ever heard me try to claim that the NAACP does not have and is not actually a part of the liberal agenda?

As liberal as liberal gets and effective too. I mean you just watched the ass whopping they put on the Tea Party. KO in less than four or five news days. And got the Tea Baggers divided and running for cover with now only three months before the mid term elections.

What you're fucked up on, Ace, and keep forgetting is the liberals are the good guys.

*grabbing Ace, slapping him hard on one side of the check and then the other*

Get a hold of yourself god damn it Ace you're as hysterical as tenguy.

For Christs sake Ace we went from racism to ''I'm sorry that I didn't pay my taxes,,But I'll do ya a good job'' to the southern Democrats and the civil fucking war?

WTF?

Really Ace? Well you may be right. But tell me. If I had all my social security money invested in the stock market and derivatives and hedge funds then I'd be one broke, ripped off, and staving mother fucker then wouldn't I?

I'd also be a pissed off broke mother fucker wouldn't I Ace?

I think I'm dead on on this one Ace. That stupid shit ate up five approval points two weeks ago alone, Now she's eight down. You know why? Telling the people in the state she's running for election that unemployment benefits made them lazy and unwilling to get a job. That was 14% right there who disagreed because that's Nevada's unemployment rate. The highest in the nation.

Vote for me you lazy worthless fuckers is a hell of a campaign slogan.

Nope and actually it never will be Ace. Conservative and Liberal are political poles just like our magnetic poles.

You just got to find some conservatives who aren't stupid, greedy, lying racist fucks and just keep looking until you do. Maybe once President Obama and the Democrats get immigration reform passed you guys could import some from somewhere.

You know to try and beef up your defective gene pool.

No tenguy it wasn't left it was right. Righteous in fact. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed corning you more than I did tonight. I loved making you admit Deidre79 was lying.

That's all I wanted.

Yeah I call that winning. I call that beating Deidre79 at his own game and taking you and Distant Lover down in the process. I consider that being the last man standing between the four of us.

Damn right I consider that winning.

And you know what I think of being a Winner don't you?

The Winner

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Winner
(Shel Silverstein)

The hulk of a man with a beer in his hand looked like a drunk old fool,
And I knew that if I hit him right, I could knock him off that stool.
But everybody said, "Watch out -- that's Tiger Man McCool.
He's had a whole lot of fights, and he always come out the winner.
Yeah, he's a winner."

But I'd had myself about five too many, and I walked up tall and proud,
I faced his back and I faced the fact that he'd never stooped or bowed.
I said, "Tiger Man, you're a pussycat," and a hush fell on the crowd,
I said, "Let's you and me go outside and see who's the winner"...........

Well, he gripped the bar with one big hairy hand and he braced against the
wall,
He slowly looked up from his beer -- my God, that man was tall.
He said, "Boy, I see you're a scrapper, so just before you fall,
I'm gonna tell you just a little what a means to be a winner."

He said, "You see these bright white smilin' teeth, you know they ain't my own.
Mine rolled away like Chiclets down a street in San Antone.
But I left that person cursin', nursin' seven broken bones.
And he only broke three of mine, and that make me a winner."

He said, "Behind this grin, I got a steel pin that holds my jaw in place.
A trophy of my most successful motorcycle race.
And every mornin' when I wake and touch this scar across my face,
It reminds me of all I got by bein' a winner.

Now my broken back was the dyin' act of handsome Harry Clay
That sticky Cincinnatti night I stole his wife away.
But that woman, she gets uglier and meaner every day.
But I got her, boy, and that's what makes me a winner.

You gotta speak loud when you challenge me, son, 'cause it's hard for me
to hear
With this twisted neck and these migraine pains and this cauliflower ear.
'N' if it weren't for this glass eye of mine, I'd shed a happy tear
To think of all you'll get by bein' a winner.

I got arthuritic elbows, boy, I got dislocated knees,
From pickin' fights with thunderstorms and chargin' into trees.
And my nose been broke so often I might lose it if I sneeze.
And, son, you say you still wanna be a winner?

My spine is short three vertebrae and my hip is screwed together.
My ankles warn me every time there'll be a change in weather.
Guess I kicked too many asses, and when the kicks all get together,
They sure can slow you down when you're a winner.

My knuckles are so swollen I can hardly make a fist.
Who would have thought old Charlie had a blade taped to his wrist?
And my blind eye's where he cut me, and my good eye's where he missed.
Yeah, you lose a couple of things when you're a winner.

My head is just a bunch of clumps and lumps and bumps and scars
From chargin' broken bottles and buttin' crowded bars.
And this hernia -- well, it only proves a man can't lift a car.
But you're expected to do it all when you're a winner.

Got a steel plate inside my skull, underneath this store-bought hair.
My pelvis is aluminum from takin' ladies' dares.
And if you had a magnet, son, you could lift me off my chair.
I'm a man of steel, but I'm rustin' -- what a winner.

I got a perforated ulcer, I got strictures and incisions.
My prostate's barely holdin' up from those all-night collisions.
And I'll have to fight two of you because of my double vision.
You're lookin' sick, son -- that ain't right for a winner.

Winnin' that last stock-car rce cost me my favorite toes.
Winnin' that factory foreman's job, it browned and broke my nose.
And these hemorrhoids come from winnin' all them goddamn rodeos.
Sometimes it's a pain in the butt to be a winner.

In the war, I got the Purple Heart, that's why my nerves are gone.
And I ruined my liver in drinkin' contests, which I always won.
And I should be retired now, rockin' on my lawn,
But you losers keep comin' on -- makin' me a winner.

When I walk, you can hear my pelvis rattle, creak and crack
From my great Olympic Hump-Off with that nymphomaniac,
After which I spent the next six weeks in traction on my back,
While whe walked off smilin' -- leavin' me the winner.

Now, as I kick in your family jewels, you'll notice my left leg drags,
And this jacket's kinda padded up where my right shoulder sags,
And there's a special part of me I keep in this paper bag,
And I'll show it to you -- if you want to see all of the winner.

So I never play the violin and I seldom dance or ski.
They say there never was a hero brave and strong as me.
But when you're this year's hero, son, you're next year's used-to-be.
And that's the facts of life -- when you're a winner.

Now, you remind me a lot of my younger days with your knuckles clenchin' white.
But, boy, I'm gonna sit right here and sip this beer all night.
And if there's somethin' you gotta prove by winnin' some silly fight,
Well, OK, I quit, I lose, son, you're the winner."

So I stumbled from that barroom not so tall and not so proud,
And behind me I could hear the hoots of laughter from the crowd.
But my eyes still see and my nose still works and my teeth are
still in my mouth.
And y'know...I guess that makes me...a winner.

Copyright Shel Silverstein
RG
oct99

 

As if deidre would ever quit