Here is an article about one individuals idea of the current governemnt and the possibility of another american revolution.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAna...ures-Lead-To-Second-American-Revolution-.aspx

What would you think of it and why?
Fell free to post thoughts and ideas.

EDIT!-
I am not asking for opinions on the article (just for clarification). Simply ideas about the chance of another American revolution. The article was simply what gave me the idea to post this poll, it is not the center of debate or discussion.

 

In that stupid article there is no concern for the growing income gap and the pauperization of the middle class. If there is a second American Revolution I hope it is against the economic interests of the author.

 

I agree. I'm all for a peaceful revolution, but not of the type he probably advocates, or with the goals he embraces.

 

:excited:

 

Armed Liberal Socialists

With enough people like the article there will be armed conflict. Gun laws are changing and already people are shooting and not for PERSONAL defense. Things are headed in a bad direction. In the US we have the best or worst government MONEY can buy. BP oil spill is all about MONEY, politicians and bearcats are paid and usually legally to change laws or bend regulation. Profit is the only thing important. The profit motive will destroy the world and if you don’t believe that then you are not paying attention.
I have been in government and found two things to be true about people:
1. The only fair tax is the one someone else pays.
2. The only good government programs are the ones that serve self.
If that sounds a little cynical will it is and so am I.
I have worked at soup kitchen, food pantry and homeless shelters for many years. I see the people that write things like that article only wanting a feudal system of government. (They will probably need detailed explanation of that) I can see them wanting to have poor farms and work houses and debtor prison again.
There are NO simple answers to the problems of the world or the US but greed will only make it worse.
Communism is not the same as socialism so please do not call me a communist.
Socialism and capitalism alone will not work because people are what they are, generally selfish and greedy.
It is easy to kill people the hard part is keeping them alive.
I see the two biggest problems in the world are religion and greed. If we could get rid of both the problem would be solved.
BUT nothing will change until “ I become more concerned about YOUR welfare and less about MY own”.
If we took the PROFIT out of war there would be no wars.
I do not read this section often so if you really dislike what I said you should PM me.

 

I think the idea that there is going to be any kind of armed revolution beyond the few nut cases we already have is absolutely laughable in its naive stupidity.

We can't get the majority of adults in this nation to even take the time to vote. And you're thinking they're going to be ambitious enough to get off their asses and grab a gun? Fucking hilarious.

 

Right wing nut cases who dream of a violent revolution against the Federal Government that will restore laissez faire capitalism spend too much time talking to other right wing nut cases.

Unfortunately, that kind of talk can inspire a few people who are really unhinged and dangerous, like Timothy McVeigh.

 

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Because there are a number here who never studied history, other than Woodstock, 1969, free love, etc.,here's a window into the first American Revolution.

The first revolution was a one third war-one third for the war, one third against it, and one third ambivalent.

 

A revolutionary change should require a two thirds majority.

 

Bullshit pure and simple.

 

Two voices of no reason or sense of history.

A revolution requires nothing more than the government to attempt to block or ban dissent. A bloodless revolution would probably precede a bloody one. IMO, we are in the beginning stages of a bloodless revolution, in fact we may be unique in that our country is almost always in a bloodless revolution.

When Fidel and Che turned on Batista it was a relatively bloodless event, Batista fled the country and a bloody war was avoided.

When James Otis fought the Navigation Acts it was the beginning of the American Revolution, King George fought back with the veto of the Parsons Cause and other punitive measures. Thus started the bloody war.

It takes no majority, it takes no armed might, it only takes a just cause and some people willing to push it.

 

How can the American Revolution be considered a just cause when one third of the American people opposed it?

 

Interesting reading

If you are thinking about revolution I suggest you read "The Iron Heel" by Jack London

 

How would you consider it an unjust cause when 2/3's did not oppose it?

Real easy to look at history through tinted glasses, isn't it? What you and I will never know is WHY the 1/3 opposed it, I would venture a guess that for many it was the fear that it would not succeed and the retributions would be to harsh to bear. (Some of those would be considered cowards)


What matters is that it did take place and that the English monarchy could no dictate the terms of our future. In retrospect, who today rues the American Revolution?

 

Revolution is still a long way off yet. In ancient Rome the government figured out that if you keep the people fed and entertained the government can do just about anything it wants without and significant backlash. The romans had what they reffered to as "bread and circuses" which helped keep the people docile.By setting aside certain areas in the various entertainment venues for people who couldnt pay and by handing out free bread and cheap wine at these venues they were able to keep the masses placated well enough that the govenrment was relatively safe from revolts.The government also set aside large amounts of grain from what was collected from farms as part of thier taxes specificly for the poor so that they could keep people calm. When the public graineries were empty was when things got violent.

In the United States we have .49 cent boxes of macaroni and cheese and we have television to help keep the poor distracted. As long as people can steer themselves infront of thier television with a bowl of cheap pasta with goop on it in thier hand they will remain calm and easily manipulated. The only way to realy get any sort of revolution started is if there comes a time when people press the button on the remote and the TV doesnt come on and they cant go to the pantry and mix up a bowl of crappy pasta anymore.Then we will see revolution.Until then...forget it.We are too slow, too lazy,too fat and frankly to stupid to do anything of substance until people are hungry and bored. As long as people are comfortable its a lost cause and keeping Americans happy has proven to be pretty damned easy.Hell...the government doesnt even have to pay for the bread and circuses anymore. We buy it our selves.How stupid is that?

 

My guess is that most blacks opposed it because they were slaves, and the British Army was encouraging slaves to fight for their freedom. This passage in The Declaration of Independence complains about that fact, "He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us."

This is what Samuel Johnson had to say about that curious inconsistency, "If slavery be thus fatally contagious, how is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?"

http://www.samueljohnson.com/tnt.html

 

Hmmm, the blacks were citizens then?

My thought is that the main opponents to the revolution were the Tories, I think they made up about 1/4 of the colonies population before the war and a good number of them took up arms for the king. Many fled the new United States after the war, but it looks like a couple stayed and are now in here.

 

As much as fat old rednecks like to toy with the idea, no, there won't be another American Revolution. I've always been amazed that they think that they'd be any match for a 20 year old in his peak. Time out, broke a hip?

 

And that's two things you don't got tenguy. There is no just cause for any kind of revolution other than an energy revolution which is happening.

Plus the only people you have pushing for it are the same extremists who've always been there, always screaming hysterically for revolution. And it really shows the shallowness of them and their patriotism when we're already fighting on two different fronts and trying to put people to work.

And finally to quote Kimiko one more time: Let's see we're talking tanks and machine guns versus deer rifles. What's wrong with this picture?

And lets look at this aspect of it. With the election of Barack Obama the divisive rhetoric out of conservatives/Republicans/Tea Baggers found new and fertile ground for stirring up hate and discontent.

But the problem is they are so good at divisive hate and discontent they can't even stand each other and keep dividing off into smaller and smaller sub-groups.

So we end up with a situation where let's say Mark Williams and the Tea Party express decide to revolt because they were expelled by the Tea Party Federation. So that would make the Tea Party Federation and NAACP allies. I laugh every time I think of that.

Just like I do when I think about how many people are hysterical enough to be talking about revolution compared to the 300,000,000 people that live here and like it.