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  1. Wimmers

    Wimmers Porn Star

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    I would like peoples opinions of what and is not fair to writers when leaving comments. At the moment there is a story in the Sex Stories forum which is attracting both positive and negative comments. The story content is about sexual acts with a 6-8 month old baby.

    I am not asking you to comment on the content of the story. But whether or not people should be allowed to criticise the story fot it's content when it is clearly labelled daddy/daughters, infant, young.
    Story is here. https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=169960


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  2. <MisterX>

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    I see no reason that anyone should refrain from stating their opinion, regardless if it is fair or not. Surely the poster knew they would get criticism on the subject alone and expected it. I personally ignore trash like that, but have no problem with someone speaking their mind.
     
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  3. katie4you

    katie4you Porn Surfer

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    If your not into something, before you just randomly click on a story maybe you should read the title and think to yourself , hmm, I don't like stories with whatever in it so I'm going to leave a negative comment when I probably didn't read the story but basing it off of the title.

    Long story short. Look at the title, if its something your not into, don't click it, thus no negative comment when the content of the story could have been really good.
     
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  4. Wimmers

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    Katie of course you should not leave negative comments if you have not read it. I mean after you have read it despite the warning tags. I want to make this as fair as I can.
     
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  5. RandyKnight

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    You post something in a public forum no mater what the subject you are open for whatever criticism you draw.

    You post a story of that nature and you are just asking for whatever flames or other consequences that may come your way.
     
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  6. Eric the Red

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    I think that everyone has the perfect right to say whatever they wish, but having said that, if you go into a thread that is clearly marked as something you will find offensive, that just doesn't seem very smart to me.
    Why would you willingly expose yourself to something that you know is going to offend you?
    What is it that you think you're accomplishing other then to say, "Look at how moral I am! I object to certain types of twisted fiction."
    I really don't think that moralizing to writers on a porn forum is going to save any children from molestation in real life, nor do I think that such a story will cause it.

    I mean think about it, did a fictional story ever make you do anything against your moral character?
    For that matter, has anyone's negative view of activities you partake in ever stopped you?
    I just don't think that a story possesses that much power.
     
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  7. jayjaydee

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    Hhhhhmmmm, stories about sexual contact between an adult and a 6-8 month old baby?........

    Writer deserves all the negatives he/she can get. Only a sick mofu would even think of writing this as entertainmeent.

    And before ppl get all 'if you dont like the content from the title, dont read it' supercillious BS on my ass, some content doesnt deserve to be protected under freedom of speech because of the vile, disturbing, warped, inhumane acts within.

    It all depends on taste, i suppose, but children is the only place i, as a writer, and as a fervent reader, will not go. The writer of such a story MUST know how contentious the subject matter is amongst adult humans, so should expect to take some flak.

    IMHO;)
     
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  8. Heater

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    He puts this awful crap on the forum and then waits to attack anyone who points out just how foul he and his subject matter is. This admitted pedo is a real piece of sick work.

    A lot of us enjoy being here in this house and when we smell that someone has crapped in our house we have the right to see where the smell is coming from and check out if it really is the shit they say it is. When we find that it IS shit, we should be allowed to object to its being here and the person who left it...... but, NO, we are attacked by both the shitter and the guy who thinks that the shit smells like roses to him.
     
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  9. Eric the Red

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    Our house?
    By my count there are just as many positive as negative comments, but that's beside the point.
    You have the perfect right to object to controversial material, but I also have the right to laugh at you for taking a story so seriously.
    The OP is trollin' you so hard!:lol:
     
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  10. Nicola Matthews

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    Here's my two cents, for what it is worth. As a writer, it is my personal pet peeve for anyone to vote negatively on my stories simply because he/she did not like the plotline or how the story unfolded. I get so fed up with people who seem to think that they can write my ideas down better than I can. Most people on this site fall into 2 categories; those who think that a writer is good simply because they like the plotline and those who think the writer is not good simply because they hate the plotline. Good ideas and good writing do not go hand in hand.

    Now speaking in regards to the story at hand, I think most everyone has turned this into a moral issue rather than a question of rather or not the story was actually any good. Considering the delicate nature of the content, the writer could not possibly think that he would not get flamed to hell and back. If he did not want to deal with the comments, the best thing he could have done was post it on the stories side and denied all comments on the thing.

    On the flip side of that coin, I personally hate it when writers get attacked simply because people do not like the subject matter. No one forced anyone to read the story. But if you are going to put up questionable subject matter and leave it open to public scrutiny, then you should expect some backlash. He posted a story and then invited people to leave their opinions. People are entitled to those opinions, which he asked for, but the author is also entitled to defend his work.
     
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  11. Eric the Red

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    As usual Nicola you make a lot of good points.
    I think that the author not only expected to get flamed, he was knowingly provoking a flame war, and some people obligingly walked right into it.
    You don't post a story marked that clearly, and with the screen name like that without a purpose.
    I kind of think it's funny that people get so upset about a story, but maybe that's just me.
     
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  12. stupid77

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    shure.....
     
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  13. yourneighbor

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    Keep stirring that pot, wimmers...

    My comment from that thread, about my stories and the comments received:

     
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  14. yourneighbor

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    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
     
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  15. Nicola Matthews

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    I try :excited:.

    Another thing that pisses me off is when people purposely go to stories with tags that they hate and then vote the story down because they did not like the tags. Had that happen to me today. When I checked out the page of the hater, all this guy writes is incest stories. So why he thought he would enjoy a story that was NOT labeled with anything he liked is beyond me. And then he voted negatively.

    Which makes me want to scream at them, "Hey! Dumbfuck! How would you like it if I clicked on YOUR stories and voted them down simply because I don't like incest stories?" I hate it when people do that shit. I don't go around voting negatives on stories which hold tags that I know I do not enjoy. It's underhanded and dishonest. Maybe I'm just too nice. If I don't like a story I simply do not bother to vote or comment. I guess since I know how it feels I don't want to submit other authors to that humiliation. Even those that honestly suck at writing. And there are PLENTY of those on this site.
     
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  16. yourneighbor

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    Show me who I have attacked who has not attacked me first. Reasonable, rational, sane comments are dealt with the same way.

    Now pull that foot out of your mouth again.
     
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  17. Wimmers

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    I think this thread is a very valid and fair one, it does no harm whatsoever to discuss this matter on a writers and readers forum.;)
     
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  18. yourneighbor

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    Certainly not. And I have added my comment, which I would have put here first if I had noticed this thread before I commented on the other one. I am allowed to do that, right? You are certainly not still advocating I should just sit back and put up with it?
     
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  19. Benmullet

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    I haven't bothered to read the little argument above mainly because I haven't got time.

    Here's my basic opinion though...

    If the story is clearly labeled and tagged in a way that would tell people what it's about, be it a sensitive topic or not, then if the reader doesn't like it or simply rates negatively just because of the topic then I'm against that. I think that the story should be rated on it's content and actual skill of the writing, not simply what it's about.

    That said, I think that the writer should of expected and prepared for all the negative attention, considering what exactly the story is about. The less popular topics are always going to get the worst ratings, just because there's less people that like what it's about and more than prefer the more conventional stories.

    So... I think that readers that don't like the topic shouldn't read and therefore rate the story at all.
     
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  20. Prurient Purveyer

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    Well I read it and it made me, even me, feel uncomfortable. But then there are plenty of other topics, rape and murder being two, that also make me feel uncomfortable.
    It was well written for what it was I just didn't like the subject matter.
    But no, I wouldn't have felt obliged to leave a comment.
    As to where is the writer going with this topic, it may mean something to him or he may have simply chosen it for its impact and I don't think telling him off will achieve anything. So I won't.
     
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