Frankly, you would have a hard time convincing me that Pat Robertson doesnt need to have his medication adjusted way up tag...your it.

 

People have the right to worship,believe and gather for any religious belief that they wish to believe in, I for one attended a church when I was much younger,mama kind of forced it on us for her own reasons,we soon turned rebellious towards her and stopped attending, for our own reasons, if you believe that there is a god, that's fine with me,,if you believe that there is not a god,, that's just as fine,, there is no true evidence for either practice.

To each their own.

 

Pat Robertson is in the business of religion .... he'll say anything to make a buck.

 

Say it aint so.

 

and miss out on a fine dinner:rose:

 

The evidence of God is all around you .......... you choose not to see it and that is fine .......
............. sometiime in the future you will be looking at something of thinking about something and be surprised ..........
......... You will wonder why you did not see it before ..:rose:

Until then, happy trails to you.

 

Religion is the belief in a higher being. Atheism is the belief there is no higher being. As they both hold a belief, they are both a religion.

When you get down to it, belief in anything "could" be considered a religion. Therefore I have the desire to participate in one or more of my favorite religions (beliefs). Alcohol. Sex. Chocolate. Speed. Rock N Roll.

 

interesting ..... I like your signature..

 

You are more than welcome to borrow/copy/steal it. However, I only ask that you give credit where credit is due. Cite the original source and author.

 

"state sponsored", the last time I checked you couldn't even pray at any schools or city hall meetings , without being kick out or sued by the liberal SS..

 

lol, i feel that way sometimes too!
I think a belief system simply can be a non-belief one(not trying to confuse people here). Atheists? I have met a few(admitted ones), they all were too arrogant for me! I have an extra large ego in such discussions, but they easily top mine.
The Atheist supports his/her non belief, often by the five senses argument.Empiracle proof.
I think of the `proof' of a black hole. We observe the effect of the black hole, but cannot measure it, or pinpoint the exact location. Some help here, i am a bit sleepy.
Science that we have at our disposal today, doesn't have all the answers for us. I believe in a God/dess, but not because `I am afraid to die' or fear that if I do not pray to Him, I will be `squashed like a bug'.

 

Ah man, you're just a fucking "Agnostic Theist", while I could be described as a fucking "Agnostic Atheist"... :excited:

Whatever, I think this guy (OP) should find some less easy target than the religious crowd... too many "religion threads" popping up lately...

 

Christians do not believe in Zeus, does their lack of belief in Zeus equate to being part of the anti Zeus religion? Why stop there, are Christians part of several thousand other religions which are the "anti versions"? It is completely illogical to say that Atheism is a religion. Everybody in the world are Athiests in one sense or another, just those who describe themselves as Athiests take it one God and a fairytale further.

 

I go back here to my original definition of "religion": "any specific system of belief, worship, or conduct that prescribes certain responses to the existence (or non-existence) and character of God." This definition links belief with behavior or responses. So let's say you're right that Christians do not believe in Zeus. But as far as I can tell, there is no behavior linked with the belief process. However, when they start preaching against Zeus or handing out pamphlets about how all references to Zeus should be stomped out of books of literature, etc., then behavior has been linked to the belief system and does, indeed, become an anti-religion.

As Arvin said, by its very nature and name, atheism is linked to theism.

We are all shaped as much by what we believe as by what we actively choose to not believe.

 

Religion is the belief in a higher being. Atheism is the belief there is no higher being. As they both hold a belief, they are both a religion.

I belief there is a creator , creator of us all.Nothing comes into order automatically and humans have this common sense and knowledge and brain to get to know who is the creator. Athiesm doesn't stop you from not bieleving in a higher creator.There is still someone who is a creator and who evolves things.The higher being is so much higher that you cant even think how big he is .. you have to just see his creations. ! Use a fraction of your common sense and you'll come to know we all have a one creator , the one who evolves everything.

Anything that is created from something cannot be called a creator, a creator is created from nothing , creator is since there since time and will remain forever !!! i mean GOD of all human kind.

 

The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.

The size and age of the Cosmos are beyond ordinary human understanding. Lost somewhere between immensity and eternity is our tiny planetary home. In a cosmic perspective, most human concerns seem insignificant, even petty. And yet our species is young and curious and brave and shows much promise. In the last few millennia we have made the most astonishing and unexpected discoveries about the Cosmos and our place within it, explorations that are exhilarating to consider. They remind us that humans have evolved to wonder, that understanding is a joy, that knowledge is prerequisite to survival. I believe our future depends powerfully on how well we understand this Cosmos in which we float like a mote of dust in the morning sky.

Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition. They avoid rather than confront the world. But those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will penetrate its deepest mysteries

It is sometimes said that scientists are unromantic, that their passion to figure out robs the world of beauty and mystery. But is it not stirring to understand how the world actually works — that white light is made of colors, that color is the way we perceive the wavelengths of light, that transparent air reflects light, that in so doing it discriminates among the waves, and that the sky is blue for the same reason that the sunset is red? It does no harm to the romance of the sunset to know a little bit about it.

 

How wonderful. There is just one flaw in your argument, unfortunatly for you, it is the premisis you have based your entire argument on. Your definition of Religion is wrong. Go look it up.

 

The easiest way to appear to win an argument is to construct a new definition that pleases you and suits your purpose, and then claim that that definition proves your point.

 

I'm not defending curiosgirl by any means,but from what I can tell,she is pretty close with her definition;,,

 

The liberals do it all the time...