Honestly.


Most of you probably heard about Juan Williams comments on the O'Rielly factor on monday about him being somewhat insecure or nervous if he was to see a person in full muslim clothing garb on a plane. Than 36 hours later being fired from his main job at National Public Radio, the left arm of the liberal media.

The President of NPR terminated his contract on wednesday for his viewpoint. Announcing that she doesn't care what his viewpoints and opinions are, he can take them out with his psychiatrist....

Though I rarely agree with Mr.Williams, I always enjoyed his presence on the radio and television because he is very intelligent man and even the most right minded people like me. weigh in very much so on what his viewpoints are....

But honestly, like my first question?... Where is Freedom of Speech in the Liberal Media?

Just look at Jaun and John Gibson for example...

 

He's free to say whatever he wants, they are free to choose not to give him a forum to say it in. Despite what some people think freedom of speech doesn't allow you to say whatever, wherever, with no consequences.

In my opinion it's more of a public relations thing than a free speech thing. If one of my employees said something like "all of our customers are stupid whores" in front of a couple customers i'd fire him and they'd forgive me. If I didn't fire him i'd lose those customers and customers are far more valuable than hired help.

 

Another thing we don't probably think about is can you imagine how many people are qualified to take his place and eager to do it? That's not an easy job to get, it's just easier to fire him.

 

I don't see what the problem is - he isn't being forbidden from saying whatever he wants to say, as a citizen. As an employee, on the other hand, there are certain things you can say that will get you fired. Whether you're a commentator of national politics, or a janitor of a laundromat, an employer has the right to sift staff who might damage their carefully crafted image. Juan was under contract with NPR - he said something that may have been honest, but at the very least was tone-deaf, and at the worst completely bigoted. If I were his boss, I'd have canned him as well. This kind of thing undermines his reputation for intelligence, in my view.

 

There is truth in the observation that liberals are like children and conservatives like adults. Children believe that only their point of view should be heard, and no one else's. Children believe that parents (the government) are the ultimate source of security and we are so much better off being told what to do and think.

Juan's discussion was related to the blow up on The View when two co-hosts walkedoff of the set because they didn't like what Bill O'Reilly was saying.

 

And this has what to do with the employment contract between an employer and employee, exactly? I hope you can do something other than play the stereotypical soundtrack of the dogmatic right, hmmm?

 

This is what I dislike about politics. Every time something happens everyone is too quick to say "my party would never do that, this is a perfect example of why your party sucks and is wrong about everything"

 

He was free to say whatever was on his mind, and he did...Fox has already given him a job, and it sounds(by his comments) like it will be a good place for him...

 

My conjecture behind the PR picture painted for all of us to see is that NPR was looking for a reason to burn him because of his assosciations with the Fox News Network.... I've listened to NPR and many of the things they say, like bush should be executed, imprisoned, and once implying that anyone assosciated with the tea party should have thier 1st ammendment right of expression and speach should be revoked... Its those people on NPR who should be fired... Not Jaun.. What he said is what most assuredly millions apon millions of americans think the same as...

 

So millions upon millions of Americans are just as bigoted and/or stupid as Juan Williams . . . and?!?? Just because alot of people are saying or thinking the same thing does not give it any intellectual or moral credibility, Danny . . . sometimes, it does just the opposite.

 

Institutionalized racism doesn't make it good racism

 

No.... My intended point was, -If the Pres of NPR is going to squelch Mr.Williams for awnsering a question honestly about his view on muslims living in this post 9/11 world, than they should honestly take account and fire the ones who speak about open treason and how some people just don't deserve rights guarunteed to them by the constitution.- Fair, no?...

 

Well if you know anythning about Juan, he rarely agrees and sees eye to eye with the commentators at Fox.

 

You can play semantic games with this all you like, and I'm well aware of which side of the fence you fall politically - but the pres of NPR has the right to "squelch" (fire) anybody he sees fit at any time for any reason. In this case, Mr. Williams bigotry was still bigotry, he gets no points for being "honest" about it - he was stupid to make such a blatant remark painting himself as a small-minded idiot. Not a good reputation to create if you want to be thought of as a thoughtful commentator.

 

I am not questioning the right of National Public Radio to fire Juan Williams, but I regret the decision.

During much of the twentieth century the right was the chief offender against a free discussion of controversial opinions. It was dangerous to criticize capitalism, advocate socialism, or defend the Soviet Union. People were scared half to death that the milk man might be a stark raving Communist.

Now the left is more likely to offend against open discussion. This is particularly true when publicly discussing the relationship between genes, IQ, success in life, crime, and race. For months The Bell Curve was on The New York Times best seller list. The book made Charles Murray a rich man. Nevertheless, it is somewhat dangerous to state in public that one agrees with the book, especially if one has a career in journalism or teaching.

When James Watson said that Negroes on the average are less intelligent than whites, he was forced to step down as chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island, and from its board. Watson won a Nobel Prize for his work on DNA, so he should be expected to know what he is talking about. If this can happen to Watson, it can certainly happen to someone less celebrated.

 

How is what he said bigoted?... Bigotry is the active dislike and hatred and general sense of betterness over another peoples...

What juan said is that he would be nervous if he saw muslims in full garb...

You know, the whole headwrap/turban, robes and all... like they just walked out of Iraq....

And I'm fairly sure if you were sitting on a plane and watching someone dressed like that you would feel atleast a little anerved... Its not a matter of bigotry.

 

If your thought processes were railroad tracks, there would only be one line in the whole country and it would be as straight and unwavering as a laser beam Even parrots mix up their rhetoric once in a while :lol:

 

Boldly stated, and I agree with you entirely. However this will only end a bad image for NPR.... As much as I think Jaun Williams is better off... Especially after being with them for 10 years and raising thousands of dollars to be cut off and thrown our the door was short sited and cirtainly undeserving.

 

Do you believe one should be able to state in public that one agrees with The Bell Curve, and keep one's job?

 

Look up the word, "bigotry" or "prejudice", Danny. What he said is the very essence of those words. Feeling fear based solely on the fact that someone is wearing a certain type of clothing is just blatantly bigoted. :-|

If I said that when I see a black man wearing a hoodie and low-slung jeans, I feel fear of being mugged . . . or if I see an Asian man with glasses and books, I fear he's smarter than me . . . or if I see an Italian with a scowl on his face, I fear I might get whacked . . . I'd be just as guilty of being a bigot as Juan.