Okay, cards on table.

If you tell me to jump, I don't ask how high - I tell you to fuck off. Where have any of the mods made the claim that we are already seeking advice on this issue?

If you're that concerned about nophest's health, I suggest you send him a bunch of grapes.

Written and graphically depicted [non-photographic] fantasy/cartoon images are NOT illegal, in the UK, Europe OR the US. Would this law, if it came into being in your country, infringe on your first amendment rights? Sure it would. And, I'm sure, you'd be out there, protesting while waving your little banner in the air along with the rest of them.

People have actually stated that they smoke/grow/distribute pot and partake in other illegal drugs. Do we also report them? After quickly reading through the thread before answering you, I note that ejls has already pointed out that, just by your being a member here, would class you as 'guilty by association', with as much access to people's IP addys as we have.

We know what effects child molestation can have on the victims. We are all aware because this subject has been aired enough. You do not need to repeat anything again. We know you know.

What's this? The guilt trip? 'Our choice to be silent'? What about YOUR choice to be silent? Do you know, if you're really concerned about this issue, you can and should report it yourself.

No. Due to lack of access to IP addresses, our job is merely to clean up spam, to remove pictures that members have had second thoughts of posting, to answer stupid questions, and - some believe - to provide a nanny service to make 'all the nasty people stop saying horrid things'.

I'm sorry, I don't buy that. If you really WERE 'that disgusted', and not just jumping on the bandwagon, you would NOT have 'waited for nophest to call the FBI' - which isn't actually the law enforcement agency in his country, but let's not split hairs here. You WOULD have done it - voiced your concerns, probably quietly unless you're after some kind of medal.

Oh boy - let me go fish up the post where you tell ejls you're not 'attacking the mods personally' just because you've been confronted.

YOU are just stupid. 'Let's require girls to get a college degree before they're allowed to have sex'? Are you SERIOUS? I'm not going to bother quoting the other posts you've made in this thread - you have a 'thing' about Canadians [?], you believe that the USA's age of consent is the only 'right' one [?], whereas, if you take the age of consent from Burundi (I haven't checked the facts, I'm assuming you're correct on this ONE point, the females would have had more chance to mature further physically, AND get that 'much needed college degree'. Not only that, but you bring religion into your argument, further proving yourself unworthy of the grey matter one would assume you have rattling around in that thick skull of yours.

Not only that, but you even voted 'yes'!! Talk about losing brownie points.

Well said. I believe Shakezula, Kimiko and *perhaps* Incubus, among others, have read the bible, either in part or in whole. Yet they have not joined the clergy or taken vows of chastity, etc.

I really do think that the site owners are much better placed to know what would be okay to put on this site, especially by way of fantasy. I would suppose that, until written fantasy becomes illegal, then they will continue hosting these genres of story. I personally, do not read them, and can't imagine anyone getting off on them, but obviously, some do.

Yes, but fantasy stories tend to have 'fantasy' characters, scenarios, scenes and plots. I would have thought someone who works in the porn industry, such as yourself, would have understood how this concept works.

Yes you were. Let me requote them for you:

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not forgetting:

And finally

Tell me who you WEREN'T attacking again?

No we don't. There is NO child pornography on this site, of which I'm aware. Members stating, either truthfully or untruthfully, about having sex with minors does NOT constitute child pornography.

In fact, if memory serves, there is a clause - there usually is - on one of the registration pages that clearly states 'the opinions of members are not necessarily the opinions of the site owners. This is to protect them from members who 'confess' to having committed illegal acts, or condone them in any way whatsoever. It is a standard clause, used especially where the public [that's us] are free to voice our opinion on private [that's this site] message boards, or anywhere else [we] are able to post our opinions almost instantly.

I will say this:

As mods, we cannot start making up our own rules and setting our own standards of how this site should be run. Some of you will remember one mod who tried that already, with disastrous results.

If we did this, we would also have our moderator 'privileges' removed from our accounts and new mods would take our place. Then, it will be back to square one.

When one is trying to change a law or rule, one should always remember that there is a wrong and a right way of going about it. If I decided the law in the UK of driving on the left side of the road was stupid - it's not, it's the 'proper' way to drive - and started driving on the right, I would be guilty of dangerous driving - at least - and suffer the consequences.

While I thank 33Blacknshym for airing this topic, we [the mods] cannot go off half cocked and delete these posts without 'facing the consequences'.

What would you prefer, a team of moderator's who are sympathetic to your concerns and are working - properly - to get them addressed, or someone who follows the rules, regardless of your feelings of right and wrong?

Patience is sometimes a virtue. You will be informed of any decision that comes down from 'on high' as soon as we get it.

 

Yeah... Writing stories regarding racially motivated brutality towards blacks and promoting it can be based on fiction too. You know, what's wrong with story titles the reek of hate speech? It's just fiction - right?

 

This thread is not about fantasy but reality!!!! Some on this thread seem to be only focused on their stories!!! That is not the subject matter!!! If this topic is to much then make a thread about "fictional stories"!!!

 

My experience in the industry is precisely why I'm so steadfast on child molestation and abuse... I have seen the dark side of child pornography. You know, a toddler was shot and killed in very close proximity to me by a child pornographer and I still have fucked up dreams and wake up at night because of it.

Sorry, I mean no disrespect but child pornography, molestation, ..., etc. are just as destructive if not more so than racism and hate speech which you do ban for.

Fantasy? You freaking think that those sickos know anything about reality... Their fucked up virtual existence is their reality, smc.

I've got to get the fuck out of here before I scream... Carry on!

 

Sometimes the downside of freedom of expression is realising just exactly what it is people want to express.

 

There are at least three topics here:

1. What is this community's definition of underage? Legally, it's below 18 in PARTS of the US, 16 in Canada, 14 in Germany, and below 21 in Hong Kong (for homosexuals).

2. What steps will the community take to prevent underage sex acts? Disallowing underage users is a start, but should we raise the minimum age to 21? Should mods look through private photo albums in search of child porn? Should we disallow sharing of email addresses and other contact info? Pedo and violent stories enable pedos and violent people to contact each other.

3. What are the community standards for stories and discussions? Should we remove racist stories as off-topic? Underage stories? Bestiality? Incest? The fucking creepy cannibalism stories?

None of these things are unreasonable, IMHO.

Unreasonable would be all the statements about torture, prison and murder for anyone who has sex with someone under 18, which is tantamount to declaring all Canadians and Europeans to be pedophiles. (Though, Canadians probably are. Have you ever met one?)

 

I realize your hands are tied on this issue until the owners of this site make a ruling (if they) do!

I made this thread and poll to see what the consensus of the forum was on child molesters. Like I said in my opening post "Lately on this forum the subject of child molesting has either become a joke or acceptable."

This thread and poll show that most are very passionately against molesting children. Thank you mods for your help and concerns on this subject.

I know you used this as an example, and the pedos could use this as an argument. But drug use is usually self destructive to the person doing it, the victim is them, they decided to do it.
Pedophiles take an innocent child and make them a victim, huge difference.

 

But when you are called a CHILD MOLESTER just because you have wrote a fictional story. This indicates that the idiotic troll CANNOT tell the difference between fantasy and reality...

He thinks that because I have wrote a FICTIONAL incest story, that contains NO UNDER-AGE sexual contact, then I must be a REAL LIFE child molester...
How can ANYBODY reach this assumption...

 

Clearly your goal is to insite others away from the topic!!!!

 

CARRIE J I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL SEVENTEEN YR OLD GRANDDAUGHTERS(JUST TURNED) WHO WANT ME TO FUCK THEM SO BAD THEY ASK CONSTANTLY WHY PAWPAW WHY WON'T YOU FUCK US NOW..MY ANSWERS IS WHEN YOU TURN EIGHTEEN THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL I..THEY'S SAVING IT ALL FOR ME THEY SAID TILL THEN BUT THOSE TWO LOVE TO SHOW OFF THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER ANYWHERE ANYTIME...THEY'S EXIBITIONIST'S...BUT I WILL NOT TOUCH ANY GIRL UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN.NEVER HAVE NEVER WILL.

 

Yes it is just FUCKING FICTION when it is my story that is being condemned.... I write a perfectly good FICTIONAL story that contains incest....BUT there is NO!!!! REPEAT NO!!!!!! UNDERAGE SEX in it, yet I am accused of being a CHILD MOLESTER on the strength of that story...

I suggest you read up on all the posts from when this started before passing any more comments on my posts.....To help you, here is the link to the thread....

https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=182201

Then scroll down to post 30, see if you can understand the mentality of someone who quotes that a member has written a story BUT that story contains NO UNDER-AGE SEX, but still is able to call the member a CHILD MOLESTER....

 

Nice....

 

smcaaphd -

i apologized for coming across as attacking mods and nophest. it was not my intention. i stated that i wanted you guys to see what could possibly happen to you personally. if you choose to believe that i am lying to you, then that is your choice. i hope that you will now choose to believe me.

i have stated in my report to the mods, which is my understanding that all mods can see, the reason why i have not done anything. most people that are arguing with others on here, including BS33, are missing a key point, which is the definition of child porn. the def i provide clearly states that child porn is a record of actual child abuse, be it pix or text. practically the entirety of what is on xnxx does not constitute that at all. not a single pic on here that i have seen constitutes child porn. not a single story does. not a single post discussing fantasy/role play/age play does. again, i understand and defend the difference.

i do not think any of you are bad, and i think of nophest in the complete opposite manner. i absolutely respect and appreciate his desire to provide a forum that provides freedom of speech.

i know what i was trying to say, and i hope that you can go back and read what i did say. please focus on my last post.

once again: i do sincerely apologize if the other post was taken negatively and if you feel attacked.

 

Never ok
Teens is lowest for perving but never touch until legal

 

You know, it's not your topic... It was your comment about reality versus fantasy. You're not getting what I said as I'm not saying you're a sicko child molester or even hinting that you are.

Ah, yeah - if you look at the opening question you'll see that it is not based on fantasy and the poster wants our opinions on child molestation. Honestly, that is it and only it...

Fucking raping children is the number one thing that I have an issue with in pornography... I market and sell porn and am an adult model and consider myself to be quite open minded. Frankly, consenting teenagers having sex is not an issue nor is an adult and teenager having a sexual love affair... HOW THE FUCK DO I MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS RAPING CHILDREN AND CONDONING IT THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH??? Grrr

 

Oh, btw - I had sex before I was 18... Think back people! Am I the only person in the world who got horny and had sex before they turned 18?? lol I seriously doubt it.

With that said... Child molesters can burn in hell!! Writers of child molestation can burn in hell with them for condoning and encouraging act of sick fucks raping children!! How's that?? Did I make myself clear??

 

HAD MY FIRST CHILDREN AT AGE SEVENTEEN KNOCKED UP TWO SISTERS FOURTEEN THE OTHER FIFTEEN AT THE SAME TIME,PLUS WAS FUCKING MY ONE SISTER AND COUSIN.

 

If you go back and read post 38, you will see that I quoted someone who openly said that seducing a young girl is acceptable. I asked a perfectly legitimate question as to why a certain member had not already called this person a child molester.

Now I feel there is a big difference between writing about under-age sex and actually doing it, so if I can be called a child molester on the strength of writing an incest story that CONTAINS NO UNDER-AGE SEX by a fellow member, then what should the person be called who says that seducing a real life UNDER-AGE girl and having sex with her is fine....