I was just curious about peoples actual morals dealing with sexuality. Forget actual laws and what you have been told to think just be you. The first thing is pedophilia. I read a story online about a 12 year old boy who took advantage of and raped a drunk 23 year old girl at his brothers party. Guess who got charged the girl. A 18 year old grade 12 student had sex with his 15 year old grade 9 girlfriend and was charged. What are your opinions on what is or is not rape.

 

well if the chick says yeah fuck me, its not rape haha if it wasnt consensual
then i guess its rape.

 

Because the lack of proper punctuation, there is no clarity on the formulation of the situation. It is necessary more information to make a judgment.

 

In the instance of the 12 year old raping the 23, then it should have been the 12 year old getting in trouble. In the instance of the consensual yet underage sex, then really no harm done but that is how the chips fall. I don't think the laws need to change but at times I don't agree wholeheartedly with them. I was 20 when my now husband was 16, we almost had sex but refrained because of the law. We forced ourselves to wait until after he was 18. For him and me, the law was a hassle because we knew then what we wanted and knew the implications but at the same time, his classmates were indiscriminately having sex and then bemoaning their ill fortune in getting illnesses or pregnancies. When I was in school, 1 in 4 girls was pregnant. One of them couldn't narrow down who the father was from a line up of 6 guys but knew it wasn't her boyfriend of 3 years. Was she "ready" for sex, HELL NO! Her body may have been ready but she was not mature enough. My cousin was 14 when she got pregnant and I am proud of her for keeping the baby and giving the child to a couple who couldn't have any. She is now over 18, still with the father of the first baby and just had their second.

 

That all depends on the laws of the jurisdiction they may be in.

In Washington, an age difference of 3 years below age 21 is considered rape by the older.

My son played 'doctor' with a girl that was 3 days over the 3 year thing, she slightly mentally handicapped, and he with a documented bipolar disorder. They threw the book at him, he spent a week in detention, allowed him to plead to a second degree felony instead of a first degree felony, was on probation for 2 years, completed all the requirements before he turned 18.

HE HAS A FRIGGIN FELONY ON HIS RECORD FOREVER - his only hope to get that off his record is a full pardon from the Governor. (all he did was touch the outside of her pussy)

That sucks. So........Where is morality in that scenario.?

 

Ok now on to the next subject. What are everyones thoughts about the ever so popular incest. I have personally never been intrested in incest myself my parents were very strict and I have no siblings but I am turned on by the idea and I don't think it is wrong. Sex is an act of love and what greater love is there then between familes. I mean you will hug and kiss your family where is the line?

 

It's not really for me... Though I have fucked my cousin and brother when we were kids.

 

It is the greatest love.

 

I think that most people have at a minimum had a crush on a cousin. With that being said if it is consensual sex who can judge it? I personally have never wanted to have sex with a sibling but do find the idea and stories exciting.

 

In your instances, rape is rape. Not good. Consensual sex is nobody's business,as far as i'm concerned.

Incest........(I hate that word,btw) happens, even in the strictest of families. Can anyone really honestly say they have never fantasized about another sibling of the opposite sex during puberty? From personal experience with my sister,I can tell you we feel no shame,period. If i'm going to hell someday, I only hope it's full of devilish women.......:excited:

 

if insest is what your into then by all means do so. only if the other wants to of cource.

 

If either person says no or is unable to consent to sex then in my head that's rape. How can it not be considered rape if one of the people actually doesn't understand what's going on? Also I don't think it should matter if the person raped is drunk or not, that still counts as not being able to consent and the other person is just taking advantage in my opinion. I don't know if other people agree, those are just my opinions.

I'm not too sure about incest tbh. It's not a turn on for me but if the people involved are consenting and they're not hurting anyone then I guess it sort of ok.

 

Exactly...legalities aside, it's all about who has power over whom, who consents and who doesn't.

Consider a scenario in which a group of 12-year-olds kidnap a woman, tie her up and take turns fucking her. I don't care HOW old they are, how old she is, how drunk they are, or how drunk she is...they knew what they were doing, and she was in no way complicit. They had power over her.

Now, admittedly, there are cases that fall into more of a gray area. The principle, though, is the same.

 

Sorry to bring up a dead topic but I have a new issue to discuss. I saw the movie Hugo the other day and I found myself fasinated with Chloe Mortez (better known as hit girl in kick ass). Now when she was in kick ass she didn't do much for me but this time I felt a connection to her. When I told other people they called me sick and a pedo but I think they misunderstood my feelings. If she was right here in front of me wanting to have sex I wouldn't do it that's not what I felt. I feel her chemestry with her costar was genuine and say what you will I think young people in love is cute so sue me. I never had a love like that as a kid and sometimes I wish I did and that is why I connected to her in a way that some might call sick.

Now the real question: is it wrong? I would not do her now however if I was the same age and she was lez I might date her and see where is goes. Is that sick?

 

one of my friends was raped and she ended up pregnant. she loves her daughter, but, though it was two years ago, she still can't sleep very good. Her daughter has to come in and sleep with her (no sick thoughts) to help comfort her into sleeping.

My opinion: rape is an abomination against nature and all men who want to commit rape should have their dicks hardened, then sawn off with a rusty hack saw. D8<

 

I don't think it's sick to see the potential in a young girl or guy they all grow up eventually, depending on the age though? If it's before they ever show signs of maleness or womanhood 7,8,9 real young that is a little disturbing but, I think if they are young teens it's o.k. as long as you're not acting out on it like trolling for one. I myself can't wait to see how Amanda Cosgrove from I Carly turns out, I'm definitely pleased with my Vanessa Hudgens naked photos!

 

As for the first question posed, yeah it should definatly be the 12 yr old charged. Especially if they can prove she was intoxicated and passed out and he crawled his skeezy little preteen ass up on her.

The consensual sex thing, I know a lot of states are changing the laws on that one. In most states they have to have a certian age gap, and it is kinda tossed out all together after the age of 16. Do I think it should be considered statutory rape for a 18 yr old senior and 15 yr oldfreshman. I think we have to say yes. Because at what point are you going to be able to draw a hard line saying yes and no. She may have been a very worldly 15 yr old. But what if it was a very naive 15yr old, and a very worldly 18 yr old. That line is very easy to blur but still the line needs to be set. The next age limit would be ok it is ok for 18 and 15 in this case, the next case is 18 and 14, but she is very worldly. No it is too much of a slippery slope.

As for the incest thing. I think Daddies and Mommies need to keep their freaking genitals away from their children no matter what. That is just bad.. Even if they are older teens who want sex. Those teens are going to loose complete respect for their parents and the parents are no longer parents but sex toys that the teen now has control of.

The cousins, aunts, siblings.. I guess if they are all old enough to not be committing statutory rape, and their is consent on both sides uh go for it, but I am going to invite Jerry Springer to your next family reunion because that shit is gonna be off the chain.
"Well this here is my baby daddy, well and he is my babies Uncle too and over here we have the Aunt and the cousin all wrapped up into one. T
"Who him over there, no he isn't a baby daddy at all. That drool is way unattractive, but his momma cousin, and daddy uncle are such good parents you wouldn't believe how good a care they take of him. Yes his nephew brother helps too they are such a loving group."

Have fun with that.. Plus I only wanted to choke the living shit outta my cousins

 

im still confused how the 23yr old girl thats drunk gets charge?
if the boy actually raped the woman is that not against her will?

 

"I'm drunk" means no
Unconscious means no
"I'm underage" means no
"I'm not sure" means no
silence means no
"NO" MEANS NO

Furthermore, I don't care how much he/she claims to want it, a child cannot give concent to an adult. drawing a line at who is a child and who is an adult is extrememly difficult, but we err on the side of caution and consider anyone under 18 a child, and anyone 18+ an adult. As for me, I think that anyone who has 5-7 years apart is ok for people over 16. (16 and 21 for example) Also, people over 15 can manipulate kids under 12, so that's wrong too.

I say this as someone who is attracted to children. I have a sexual attraction to girls of all ages, and I often fantasize about sex with young girls. However, I would NEVER act on this. So, as for the initial question about the morality of pedophilia, this is the wrong question. Being a pedophile is a sexual predisposition, like being gay or straight. Acting on that desire makes you a sexual predator, and these people deserve to get lit on fire.

 

I apologize for the length of this post.

Very recently, here a sports teacher has been accused by a 17+ yo of rape.
He is now arrested ("kept in custody") for 29 days, while the prosecutors are digging into the case.

He has admitted that he has had sex with her, but... consensual...

After doing some digging, some reporters revealed that the girl is a slut, and that she's been fucking her teacher since long ago, AND athat he wasn't the only guy she was fucking with - A LOT OF MEN have already "known her intimately"...

Last Sunday, the Ministry has decided to fire the management of that high school...

As if, the managers could be permanently beside 1400+ kids to see what they are doing while being out of school!... :wall:

Now, back to the topic - I personally believe that everything must be seen in the context.

Another example (perfectly real!).

An old guy has been caught while fucking the face of a 6 (six) years old kid...

He has simply conditioned giving him candies, if he sucked his dick.
The investigation has revealed that he's been doing it since a long time, and not only with that kid...

This WAS considered rape and pedo...

A man I knew, in his early twenties, was having sex with his 14 yo girlfriend.
He has been with her during all her high school and, when she's turned 18, they got married.
Everybody knew they were having sex, including her parents!
He has also helped her go to the university, after they got married, and, after she's finished, they started to have kids...

WHAT IF some sick minded "armed force of the law" would have imprisonned that man while his girlfriend was underage?!?

So, ladies and gentlemen, as we say here, the law is a text that has to be interpreted by the ones in charge to apply it!

I remember the words of Joe Dassin in a (French) song:

A child of 70 years old,
Has spent his entire life
Without understanding anything...

I've seen teenagers who really think more mature than people in their fourties!