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  1. bacterius

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    The statement stands... if you can't understand it you are not that much different from stumbler.


    using that method you agree then that rich white neighborhoods should be patroled by white officers?

    DL you are not 12 (at least I hope so) in today's world anyone can find any facts he wants (including stats) to support his belief, even if those contradict the truth.

    Since when is spelling an indicator of intelligence? So are you saying that since a Russian scientist can not read and spell in English (therefore would make a world of spelling errors) he is less intelligent than stumbler? You are making the common mistake here of assuming that everyone was born in an English speaking country and his first language is English.
     
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  2. stumbler

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    Whoah there bacterius if you post links that say prove your statements and there is nothing in those links that even addresses your statement, I've surely got a right to call a bullshit on that because it was obviously a very foolish bluff.

    It sure was the statement you made. You said black people get extra points of government tests. I've never heard of that and damn sure can't find any mention of it in the links you posted.

    There is no mention in the articles you posted that mentions any points at all or even preferential treatment. So this is looking like one big lie to me.

    Where does it say that? I didn't even see any mention of preferential treatment.

    You have not shown one shred of evidence that blacks need preferential treatment.

    Sure looked like an emphatic statement to me and one you obviously just made up it appears to me.

    I'm pretty sure that you don't have to dumb down anything you say to anyone. It always appears dumb enough and total dumb bullshit at that.
     
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  3. Distant Lover

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    The statement does not really stand. It floats on blasts of hot air.
     
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  4. Distant Lover

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    For the most part they already are. However, it is more important for blacks to patrol lower income black neighborhoods, because residents of these neighborhoods frequently do not trust the police.
     
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  5. bacterius

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    and the residents of the rich neighborhoods should trust the black cops??? Plus if it was not for the "fuck-establishment" mentality black folks educate their kids with, maybe we would not have that problem.
     
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  6. stumbler

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    Oh and paramount discrimination. I bet there are thousands of white police officers who are just dying to patrol poor black inner city neighborhoods. I'm pretty sure in most major police departments its actually a case of making black officer patrol black neighborhoods because no white cops are willing to do it.
     
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  7. Distant Lover

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    A person with a certain amount of intelligence and education will be able to distinguish between sources that are credible and sources which are not. Among my sources are the Office of Management and Budget, Budget of the U.S. Government
    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

    Harris Interactive
    http://www.harrisinteractive.com/va...-Poll-Research-Canadian-HC-system-2009-08.pdf

    the U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis
    [FONT=&quot]http://www.singularity.com/charts/page99.html

    and

    [/FONT][SIZE=-1]FBI, Uniform Crime Reports
    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

    The list of my sources is of course much longer than that, but you get the idea. If you get your "facts" from Rush Limbaugh, it has been documented that many of his arguments are based on lies.

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895
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  8. Distant Lover

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    It remains that you made a factual assertion that you could not back up. Now you are trying to change the subject.
     
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  9. bacterius

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    Last response on this stumbler, you either get it or you don't and just call it bullshit like usual.

    the points were not literally the measurement. No one in sane mind will quantify the help black need. It was a quick sarcastic response to follow the thread. It's like saying: I love you tons. You are trying to quantify something you can not. That's as plain as I can make it.

    Both links show the large difference of black having government jobs vs whites per % of the population. That is not because of merit.
     
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  10. IVA HARDON

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    and applying for a govt.job they get a automatic 20 % added to their grade...lol.
     
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  11. Distant Lover

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    The city in which I live is half black. There are very few black police officers. This makes it difficult for the police to apprehend criminals who prey on poor black people, to say nothing of black criminals who prey on whites. Discrimination is rational when it is on the basis of what makes one more effective in a position.
     
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  12. stumbler

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    I don't believe that and here's why. You made the statement. Got challenged on it (that would have been the logical place to say it was a joke or not a serious statement) and then posted links you claim backed up your statement.

    And then after it was pointed out your sources do not back your statement now all of a sudden its a joke.

    Nope just not gonna believe that one for an inch.

    No its because government jobs don't pay shit compared to private sector jobs with the same amount of education and experience. And because of our history of discrimination and prejudice against blacks most the really good private sector jobs go to whites and about the only jobs left are in the public sector. That's where the discrepancy comes in. Not some mythical bullshit its because blacks receive preferential from our government.
     
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  13. Distant Lover

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    If blacks are given extra points on civil service exams, that is a quantifiable number that should be documented.

    If your links show that blacks occupy professional positions with the government in numbers that are out of proportion to their numbers in the population, and if they have lower average scores than whites, you should have copied and pasted those assertions, following by your links.

    I am not necessarily disputing you. My point is that in a topic as emotionally laden as race one should post factual assertions with care.

    Also, by peppering your arguments with sarcasm and insults you reduce your credibility, and make it easier for those who want to disagree with your conclusions to dismiss you. If I am trying to find out where truth lies on a complex and emotional topic, any appeal to emotion turns me against the person making the appeal.
     
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  14. Eric the Red

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    WOW! do you even read your own posts?
    You made a statement, and then after failing to prove it, you backpeddled, peroid.
    Now insult me Internet tough guy, and prove that you are nothing but a Troll with nothing valid to say.
    No, really, I could use another good laugh.
     
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  15. Kimiko

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    That ability to dismiss facts that contradict you must be very convenient. It allows you to live in your own bubble-wrapped fantasy world.
     
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  16. Distant Lover

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    A number of years ago I read an article in The New York Times that said that liberals and conservatives are equally prone to avoid exposure to points of view they do not share. I have enjoyed political arguments since I was seven or eight years old. A long time ago I realized that if my exposure to a viewpoint was restricted to rebuttals of that viewpoint, I would be at a disadvantage when arguing with someone who really thought that way.

    It is dispiriting to realize how little facts and logic mean to many people. Rush Limbaugh has built a career telling millions of Americans lies they want to believe. If I quote The New York Times, The Washington Post, or the Brookings Institute as a source many on the right reject my quote out of hand. That is why I prefer to use The Wall Street Journal and Forbes.
     
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  17. SickBoy69

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    Hey, I think you just invented a new word.

    Sarchasm -- really deep sarcasm.
     
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  18. Kimiko

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    *laughing* Very, very good....
     
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  19. SpecialKay

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    who cares as long as they have a hard cock, once you go black you don't go back:)
     
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  20. stumbler

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    I have to agree with Kimiko this is one great catch and boomerang play.:)
     
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