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  1. stumbler

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    Simply right wing noise machine false propaganda. Illegal aliens actually put more into the public systems than they take out because they pay income and social security taxes they will never benefit from.

    Most of the illegal aliens are too busy working to try and collect on "free stuff" that would get them deported if they applied for.
     
  2. easttexasbadboy32

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    It's not right wing noise machine propaganda. That's the basic response to logic from the leftwing fantasyland believers.

    Arizona started enforcing a few basic laws and there has been an exodus of the illegals. ...seems proof it works to me.
     
  3. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Tomorrow is the great ones 100th, not today. You can't even get that right.
     
  4. stumbler

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    Bullshit on two counts.

    One, Arizona courting a cheap illegal workforce and then rejecting and discriminating against them when the economy gets tight is a historical state tradition.

    Second:

    http://www.crnlive.com/CRNBlog/?p=914
     
  5. stumbler

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    Well at least I got the lie of conservatives and conservatism right.
     
  6. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Only in your mind, must be cluttered in there, all that old liberal spin doctors voodoo, crowding what little intellect there was, into the dark corners.
     
  7. ace's n 8's

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  8. ace's n 8's

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    You are not even close to the truth.
     
  9. stumbler

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    This is just the perfect example of right wing noise machine brainwashing Ace. You cannot dispute the facts. So you babble on about some non-existent "liberal media" spreading lies.

    Well you see Ace that is a lie that YOU'RE TELLING. Let's see if you can disprove a single fact presented.

    1. Reagan was one of our most popular presidents.

    Where are the lies in this statement, Ace. Point them out to me will you? Are Reagan's approval ratings a lie? Did they just make up the numbers? Where's the lies Ace?

    2. Reagan was a tax-cutter.


    How about here Ace? Are you saying Reagan did not raise taxes 6 out of the 8 years he was in office? Are they lying when they say Reagan approved the largest corporate tax increase in American History?


    Show me those facts, Ace. If these are liberal lies where's the truth?

    3. Reagan was a hawk.


    What lies are being told here, Ace? Are you saying President Reagan went after terrorists other than the Libyan fly by bombing that accidentally killed Muammar Qadhafi's daughter? Show me those Ace.


    Also are they lying when they say Regan administration was recommending the same way of dealing with terrorists back in 1988 that President Obama wants to use now? If those are lies Ace you should have now problem proving them to be just that.


    4. Reagan shrank the federal government.

    Now Ace those look like pretty straight forward facts, which incidentally I actually recall happening. But if you can disprove those facts lets see them.


    Remember you said these were liberal lies. So where are the lies and where is the proof?

    5.Reagan was a conservative culture warrior.


    So you're saying Reagan did try to get legislation passed to end abortion? Where's that Ace? And Reagan didn't appoint Sandra Day O'Connor to the supreme court? Is that what you're saying Ace? Because I think that would be a pretty obvious lie.


    But here you go Ace. Here are what you're calling liberal lies. Show us the proof Ace or admit you're the one lying here.
     
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  11. stumbler

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    Bullshit on two counts Ace. One, being that the Republicans controlled the Senate for 6 of Regan's 8 years. And second, that meant Reagan could have vetoed any piece of legislation he wanted to and the senate could not over ride his veto.

    Its you guys buying the bullshit and spreading the lies Ace trying to re-write the history of conservative failures.
     
  12. ace's n 8's

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    WHO CONTROLLED THE HOUSE YOU FUCK HEAD. Dont tell me that shit, I already told you that he did not do everything correct. I agree with his philosophies, far more than the policies that he passed.
     
  13. stumbler

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    What does it matter who controlled the house? The senate has more power and Reagan's veto could not be overridden in the senate. No, Ronald Reagan was the one who lied to the nation.

    And how can you agree with Reagan's philosophy Ace when it was all one great big lies? What you really mean is you agree with the lies Reagan told. Which were the same lies both Bush's told.

    But are you going to be man enough to at least admit what I've posted is not a bunch of liberal lies? I think we've at least proven that beyond reasonable doubt.
     
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  15. stumbler

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    I don't think President Obama has killed himself at all. In fact he's been successful at pushing the agenda he campaigned on through congress.

    Just like Reagan was successful in pushing his agenda through. The only difference was Reagan lied all through his campaign.

    So President Reagan expanded "the problem" and sent it spiraling off to record debt? That makes sense to you Ace?

    Not to me it doesn't. That's a fucking lie and I won't be fool enough to pretend otherwise.

    No that's just another lie. The reason Reagan is becoming more popular is because of a very expensive and well coordinated effort to re-write history and make believe.

    Ronald Reagan is just more of the false propaganda coming from the right wing noise machine. And public relations and propaganda won't erase the facts Ace.

    Ronald Reagan was a complete fraud and failure as a president./

    And by the way Ace even if we take the revised history, Reagan is still ranked below JFK and Bill Clinton as far as presidents go and that's with the cheated numbers.
     
  16. ace's n 8's

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    You keep spouting the term ''lies'', but that's all you have, you dont have any facts, that they were lies.
     
  17. stumbler

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    More Republican hypocrisy

    Looks like the new speaker of the house John Boehner is already being exposed as a glaring hypocrite.

    It's estimated the GOP sponsored budget cuts would cost about 1 million jobs. And Boehner says that's alright. Everywhere else except his home district.


    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/...udget-cuts-would-cost-nearly-one-million-jobs
     
  18. ThisFNG

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    Seriously, you and your blogs. :rolleyes:

    I suppose that the trades were a Bush conspiracy too elegantly planned and executed by the guy y'all say was an idiot.

    Gov't jobs don't do shit for the economy. They have a less than 1:1 transfer rate into the rest of the economy.

    Bad economy? Drop taxes, common sense regulation and kill off transfer payments. Heavy industry produces 8-12:1 job created. That's a 10x greater effect than Gov't waste fraud and abuse.

     
  19. Distant Lover

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    Bush cut the top tax rate from 39.1 percent to 35.0 percent.
    http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php

    When George W. Bush was president, an average of 375,000 jobs were created year. In the words of The Wall Street Journal article I got this data from that was, "the worst track record on record."
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

    This is what the economy looked like at the end of 2006. Keep in mind that was after six years of a Republican White House, and Republican majorities in both houses of Congress.

    "Commerce Department data released today show that the share of national income going to wages and salaries in 2006 was at its lowest level on record with data going back to 1929.[1] The share of national income captured by corporate profits, in contrast, was at its highest level on record.[2]"
    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=634
     
  20. stumbler

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    And you and your ignorant fallacies. You attack the source because you can't dispute the facts.

    Also only a fool would believe that cutting taxes would work when that's the first thing George Bush did and instead of creating jobs or contributing to the economy we had zero job growth and about $13 TRILLION to bail out the financial industry. President Obama and the Republicans just extended the tax cuts. Where's the jobs?

    PS Simple solutions are for simple minds.