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  1. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I do not care if it was legal or not. It was provocative. It should not be legal.
     
  2. hotjohn4321

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    Sick of it all

    I have spent the past evening reading and thinking and just have to put it in writing. We Americans have the blood of more innocent people on our hands some more than others. Now we have the blood of a Congresswoman, a judge and several others. Liberal Democrats have some because we have not been vocal or united enough to get the truth out, but we certainly do not have as much as the Republicans have as they have to be cover in blood. Oh but they claim they did nothing, but they lie again, because doing nothing in this cases is the same as approving or advocating what was done. The Republican Party is filled with the selfish, greedy, skin head homophobic KKK antiabortion terrorists hate mongers that advocate eliminating liberals. The Republicans have done nothing to voice any opposition to the rhetoric of these people and in fact they have taken money and support from them so they are one of them. Until the Republicans speak up against the head stomping gun toting Tea Party they are to blame. The Republicans are just too greedy for the political power that they will accept these elements into their party and they accept this sort of behavior.
    I remember a long time ago when I learned to use a rifle I was taught by a NRA instructor to never point the rifle at anything I did not intend to shoot. Later when I also took hunter safety training the NRA instructor made it a point that you never look at something with your scope you did not intent to shoot. He made the point that it was very disrespectful to look at another human through the scope. I guess Sara Palin never took such an NRA course and so she never understood how disrespectful her web site was. Bad as that was the Republicans never said not to and the NRA never said anything either, so that means they too were being very disrespectful and actually advocating that someone should put these people in the crosshairs. Well someone did.
    Trouble is I do not see anything changing. Fox news will do a wonderful job of lie spreading and Beck and Limbaugh will continue to spew out the hate.
    I hold the Koch brother, the Murdoch group, and the entire right wing establishment responsible of this, the trouble is there is no way to make them pay. Unlike the crazy right I do not advocate killing them or their ilk.
     
  3. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    How was it a provocative action? He did not enter the grounds or the building where the meeting was being held. He did not even see the President from a distance, he was on private property and was legally carrying a visible firearm.

    His sign was not threatening in it's wording, nor were his actions hostile.

    I suppose to someone who is for the repeal of the second amendments provision for the legal possession of firearms by the public, this would seem like a provocation. Unfortunately for you, he committed no crime, nor did he give any indication that he was intending to.
     
  4. Distant Lover

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    An Open Letter to John McCain

    by Frank Schaeffer

    New York Times best-selling author
    Posted: October 10, 2008 03:41 PM

    Senator John McCain: If your campaign does not stop equating Sen. Barack Obama with terrorism, questioning his patriotism and portraying Mr. Obama as "not one of us," I accuse you of deliberately feeding the most unhinged elements of our society the red meat of hate, and therefore of potentially instigating violence.

    At a Sarah Palin rally, someone called out, "Kill him!" At one of your rallies, someone called out, "Terrorist!" Neither was answered or denounced by you or your running mate, as the crowd laughed and cheered. At your campaign event Wednesday in Bethlehem, Pa., the crowd was seething with hatred for the Democratic nominee - an attitude encouraged in speeches there by you, your running mate, your wife and the local Republican chairman.

    Shame!

    John McCain: In 2000, as a lifelong Republican, I worked to get you elected instead of George W. Bush. In return, you wrote an endorsement of one of my books about military service. You seemed to be a man who put principle ahead of mere political gain.

    You have changed. You have a choice: Go down in history as a decent senator and an honorable military man with many successes, or go down in history as the latest abettor of right-wing extremist hate.

    John McCain, you are no fool, and you understand the depths of hatred that surround the issue of race in this country. You also know that, post-9/11, to call someone a friend of a terrorist is a very serious matter. You also know we are a bitterly divided country on many other issues. You know that, sadly, in America, violence is always just a moment away. You know that there are plenty of crazy people out there.

    John McCain, you're walking a perilous line. If you do not stand up for all that is good in America and declare that Senator Obama is a patriot, fit for office, and denounce your hate-filled supporters when they scream out "Terrorist" or "Kill him," history will hold you responsible for all that follows.

    John McCain and Sarah Palin, you are playing with fire, and you know it. You are unleashing the monster of American hatred and prejudice, to the peril of all of us. You are doing this in wartime. You are doing this as our economy collapses. You are doing this in a country with a history of assassinations.

    Change the atmosphere of your campaign. Talk about the issues at hand. Make your case. But stop stirring up the lunatic fringe of haters, or risk suffering the judgment of history and the loathing of the American people - forever.

    We will hold you responsible.

    This post first ran in the Baltimore Sun as an op-ed on Oct 10, 2008. Frank Schaeffer is the author of Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back. Now in paperback

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/an-open-letter-to-john-mc_b_133489.html?view=print
     
  5. runequester

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    Citation for last time a left winger went on a shooting or bombing spree please.
     
  6. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Talk about rhetoric, wow this is a classic.
     
  7. Distant Lover

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    Because you need to ask that question you would not understand the answer.
     
  8. Distant Lover

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    rhetoric

    Definition of RHETORIC

    1
    : the art of speaking or writing effectively: as a : the study of principles and rules of composition formulated by critics of ancient times b : the study of writing or speaking as a means of communication or persuasion

    2
    a : skill in the effective use of speech

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rhetoric
     
  9. stumbler

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13collins.html

    http://www.compasscayman.com/observer/2009/08/30/Gunning-for-health-care/
     
  10. stumbler

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    Tucson, Ariz. Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/sheriff-clarence-dupnik-a_n_806303.html
     
  11. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Yeppers, glad you agree on the letter being a rhetorical work.

    But you omitted a key part of the M-W definition of the word rhetoric.

     
  12. stumbler

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    Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/grijalva-palin-needs-to-l_n_806283.html
     
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  15. Distant Lover

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    Frank Schaeffer's op ed piece was rhetoric in the best sense of the term. It was an eloquent and accurate denunciation of the Republican Hate Machine.
     
  16. stumbler

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  17. tenguy

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    You are the judge of that, not me.
     
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    Are you serious?? Ever hear of the Weather underground?? They said they did not feel they did enough.

    You have Andy Stern saying we know where you live and we need to break heads. And that was a union leader.

    Then during Tea party you have SEIU beating the crap out of a black guy, another SEIU biting a guys finger off. And SEIU protesting at a bank presidents house scaring his kid hiding in a closet. And they were all around his house.

    LINKS;::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hznSuacEN_I&playnext=1&list=PLDBDE92EC3653760D&index=2

    And here is one that obama is even saying get in their face. How dare this man that is supposed to be President. He is NO leader he is a thug.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ&playnext=1&list=PLDBDE92EC3653760D&index=21

    You progressive Socialists love to re-write history and think that if you say it enough it becomes truth. No it does not.

    And try reading the daily kos or other socialist web sites and see how they say they should act.

    I am wondering did you object to when the progressives made the movie about GW being shot?? I bet not I bet you thought it was great. Loser.

    obama has done NOTHING but divide America and he started that on day 1.

    obama is a joke around the world and his is making America a bigger joke.

    And you want to know how I know that this kid was a nut job?? Because if he was a Republicans they NEVER would have scrubbed his web sites. If he was they would be pointing to it. The Tea Party has not condoned violence but the loony left has.
     
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