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  1. podge4uk

    podge4uk Amateur

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    hard arse but i like you Mr Stumbler, podge :p
     
  2. bg86guy

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    Now being aware that you live in the UK, thus having a sense of superiority anyway.... Perhaps you would like to explain How Criminals gain entry into houses or apartments.. Considering that at least here in America, doors, windows, well they have these little things called locks on them which make it next to impossible for a criminal to enter a home without making noise. Add to that, most American families may also have a dog, and they tend to bark a lot(Especially if it is one of those little yappy "Doesn't qualify as a dog" breeds).

    In fact, Just this last december there was a perfect example of this.

    "A father realized his worst fear when an unknown male intruder broke into his home and entered his 15-year-old daughter's bedroom. Alerted by the family dog's barking, the father went to check on his daughter and discovered that someone was holding her door shut. Fortunately the daughter remained asleep, oblivious to the traumatic event. The father ran to another part of the home and got his handgun. Returning to his daughter's room, he forced the door open, ordered the intoxicated suspect to the ground and held him at gunpoint for police."

    This story ran in the Decatur Herald in Decatur, Illinois on 12/01/10

    A gun is only a tool. It is a step in a list of steps that you go through for the safety of your family. In the same way that you lock your doors, make sure the fire and Carbon Monoxide alarms have fresh batteries, having that firearm ready Is the 2nd to last step on that list. Next to last is having to pull it out. Using it is the last option. That being said, If you have a wife and kids, would you wish your comment on them?
     
  3. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    And if you want to see the paradox of this nation and the sexual frustration that probably leads to a lot of our killings, a very brilliant and talented woman once asked me: "How come what you guys want the most and your biggest insult are the same thing"?

    And then she made me tell her I wanted her to suck my fucking cock. And I did.

    I've tried to promote "non-fucker" as the biggest insult ever since then just to try and be on the safe side.:)
     
  4. bg86guy

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    Understandable

    Stumbler. I think I understand where you were coming from now. Back in Florida around the time they were starting to impliment Concealed Carry, certain news orginizations were actively running campaigns proclaiming how the new laws would bring "Rivers of Blood in the streets, shoot-outs over auto accidents" and other things as stupid as blowing or raking leaves onto a neighbor's property. Some even tried claiming that it put the lives of children at risk. However, that one was not used as much as the idea that it would somehow "Dramatically increase accidental shootings of public bystanders".

    It was all run through the news for a while, but proved to be baseless and for lack of a better term, a scare tactic to stirr up public outcry based on fear/emotion. In a few cases, much of these attacks were spearheaded by certain anti-gun groups and individual supporters of that ideology. Their main goal was not to worry about facts, but rather to prey upon people's emotions to otherwise overwhelm reason or logic.
     
  5. stumbler

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    You're right. I remember all the dire predictions but those weren't what I saw happening. I saw an increase in accidental shootings. But the thing that was most prominent to me was they had a huge and bad PR increase in the number of international tourist hijackings. Some of which were fatal.

    And the reason was obvious to me. If you're a criminal in Florida you know the only person that ISN'T packing a gun is the one that just got off an air plane from some foreign country.

    PS The increase in accidental shootings by children was not a press intention. That was the stats for the next two years if I remember correctly.,
     
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  6. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Good point on the tourist crime surge.

    Do you remember how they solved a large part of the problem?

    They had car rental companies remove the decal indicating that a vehicle was a rental.
     
  7. stumbler

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    And personally I think we are now watching another evolution of the Florida law that allows everyone to carry a gun. Guns have become so omni-present all criminals are carrying them even juveniles and not hesitating to use them on the police.

    I have not confirmed that even to myself but it sure seems like they are having an awful lot of policemen getting shot in Florida lately/
     
  8. bg86guy

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    Maybe that is because they can no longer safely target citizens. Police after all, still have to follow procedure.

    As for the other comments, yes, You pointed out very well this time that criminals were behind the increase in Car Jackings, not Concealed carry owners. That was what came accross in your first comment that I had had a problem with.

    Second, I think I pointed out previously that the accidental shootings involving children do not stem from concealed carry, as that would have to have the carrier accidently set off his gun, injuring or killing an unsuspecting child. What is responsible though is the negligence of parents. Most kids today see guns on tv and look at them as toys. They aren't taught while young that it is something to be both feared and respected. So when they find a gun, they think "Oh Cool!!" and want to play with it. The NRA is by far one of the biggest proponents of teaching children the importance of gun safety at a young age, which does help. Their "Eddie Eagle" program is a good one.
     
  9. guardian55

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    InTheMindsEye

    Please stay in the UK with the rest of you gay fucks.Here in the U.S.A in OKLAHOMA we have the (make my day law) so when a gay fuck like you or a nigroid comes in we get to shoot them legally .
     
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  11. pussy in boots

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    I might be a girl but when my dad taught me to shoot I had to tuck the stock under my arm to reach the trigger :eek:
     
  12. Ed Itor

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    And you stay in OK, maybe some one will see you coming and decrease the surplus population for us. You're the kind that cry My Constitutional Right when trying to cross the border with your guns.
     
  13. old provert

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    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government .
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of fire arms .
    Both the above statements are quotes from one of our founding fathers ,OK :eek::eek:
    WE don't need more gun laws we need to enforce the ones we have , we need to quit trying to rehabilitate career criminals and EXTERMINATE the problem, guns DO NOT commit crimes , criminals commit crimes !!!
    If more honest people had guns we would have less crime , you wouldn't try to rob somebody who had a gun AND knew how to use it .
    I sleep with one under my pillow (sorry it is a revolver not an auto won't shoot me in my sleep) and have been for the last 40+years .:excited::excited:

    First 2 statements are from Thomas Jefferson one of the smartest people to have ever lived and damn sure a hell of lot smarter than 95% of the jackasses in Washington D.C. now!!
     
  14. stumbler

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    I agree. I was even attacked for the way I taught my children what guns do and how to handle and use them safely. And I've found that hunter safety programs, in my state at least, is far superior to anything the NRA has come up with.

    But speaking of guns and children I don't think "safety" is our only problem.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/05/teen-hostagetaker-laughed_n_831791.html




    Is there any chance you were at a gun show a week ago around 11:15 a.m. at the Sale Barn off South Main St. in Bloomington Illinois?

    http://centralillinoisproud.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=162786

    Because anyone who sleeps with a revolver under his pillow where the hammer can get caught up in the pillow case and blow your head off would be about that smart.
     
  15. old provert

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    No I was not at any gun shows last weekend.
    The gun that I sleep is a Ruger Speed-six that comes equipped with a transfer bar safety so the only way for it to fire is if the trigger is pulled .
    If you had lived in some of the places I have you would have learned how sleep with your gun without shooting yourself
     
  16. stumbler

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    I think I did or maybe I was more like one of the reasons you felt it necessary to sleep with a gun. But if its got a hammer on it and it gets pulled back just a little and comes loose if that firing pin is on a live shell its going to go off.

    That's why, especially among the very few cowboys who actually did carry a hand gun, there was no such thing as a six-shooter because only a fool would carry one of those guns around with the hammer resting on a live cartridge. They only loaded the cylinder with five shells and left the hammer on an empty chamber.

    They've come a long ways since then but they obviously can't make them fool proof. I figured that out by myself trying to sleep with a revolver under my pillow more than 40 years ago.

    But you go ahead. I hope you sleep alone though and don't have neighbors too close.
     
  17. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Any weapon with a round in the chamber is infinitely more dangerous, in respect to accidental discharge, than one with an empty chamber.
     
  18. Ed Itor

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    Anything like pre-ejaculation?