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  1. stumbler

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    Arizona Tot Shoots Pop In Butt


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  3. BigTrobbing

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    Hey stumblshit, Get it through that thick communist skull you have there will be NO registering or licensing of weapons so stop hoping and praying for it as it will NOT happen.

    If you want you go and do that and leave the rest of us alone, fucken asshole that you are.
     
  4. stumbler

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    Arizona woman kills husband with shotgun after he insists she learn to use it


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  6. Jeffieboy

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    Again fucking stupid thing to say. I NEVER said that. I said ban them as you would ban guns. Shit for brains.
     
  7. Distant Lover

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    Imagine how much worse things would be if one did not have to get a driver's licence, a registration for his car, and car insurance. :eek:
     
  8. Distant Lover

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    Funny you should mention "asshole." Is that your unwiped rectum that I smell, or the outhouse behind your shack?
     
  9. Senat3

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    The irony of the Democratic party these days is that most Black voters support it. And henceforth, support stricter gun control laws. But lets take a trip back 100 years ago to Atlanta. I suggest you google, "The racist roots of Georgias gun laws."

    The only reason a "concealed carry permit" even exists in GA is because a century ago whites made the law to keep guns out of the hands of negroes. The law was only used to prosecute blacks and would never be used to prosecute a white man.

    Fast forward to today, when most blacks approve of stricter gun control laws, they are just handing over the freedoms that their ancestors fought and died for. I would guess 95% of the Black population has no idea of any of this history. The vast majority blindly follow their "black" puppet Obama without even second guessing his motives. Thus, they perpetuate their race's demise through their own ignorance.

    - not trying to be racist, just pointing out my observation on this subject.

    Distant Lover- Do you think your house is going to burn down tomorrow? Probably not, but it might. I bet you have homeowners insurance, or at least a fire extinguisher.
    Do I think there is going to be a home invasion at my house tomorrow? Probably not, but it might, that's why I keep a gun on my hip, and in my bedside table. There is NOTHING that will give me a greater chance of survival given those circumstances.

    Are you a wolf, or a sheep? When seconds matter the police are only minutes away.

    If you don't want to protect yourself, fine, you have the right not to, but don't drag the rest of us down with you. Millions of responsible gun owners walk the streets with concealed weapons every day, they have been for years. They save far more lives than they take, but you won't hear about any of those stories on FOX news or CNN. Open your eyes and look past Piers Morgan's BS and the media's façade.
     
  10. Distant Lover

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    I carry pepper spray with me whenever I go outside, even to the mail box or to carry out the trash. I have used it to thwart three mugging attempts. I have done the paper work to get a permit to carry a concealed handgun. Before the verdict came down on the George Zimmerman case I though about buying a shotgun, but I did not.

    I dislike guns. I have never owned one. At the same time I am not opposed to allowing people to own them. However, I think gun ownership should be regulated the way automobile ownership is. I think one should be required to get a license to own a gun, and one should be required to register each gun. One should be required to send the results of a ballistics test for each gun to the FBI, or a similar organization.

    Criminals would not obey these laws. That would give the government one more opportunity to arrest them and put them into prison.

    In addition to more gun regulations, I am in favor of more executions, and more, longer, and harsher prison sentences. I am also in favor of race profiling and encouraging the police to stop and frisk suspicious characters, which is to say young black males. I do not like the way young black males make me feel. I want the police to make them feel that way.
     
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  11. Distant Lover

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    Anyone thinking about buying a gun for protection against armed home invaders needs to weigh risks. Armed home invaders will give no warning. When they kick down your door you will have one or two seconds to shoot them. Then they will have time to see where you are, and they will shoot you. You will need to have the gun with you at all times. It will need to be loaded, with the safety off.

    The more accessible the gun is to you, the more likely you or someone else will use it in an unfortunate way.

    If you live in a safe neighborhood with kids, owning a gun for home protection is probably not a good idea. If you live in a dangerous neighborhood it might be, but you need to know how to use the gun. A problem with a shotgun is that a city dweller will have difficulty practicing with it. I do not believe rifle ranges have a place where one can practice with a shot gun.
     
  12. Senat3

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    You already need a license to purchase a gun, a drivers license that says you're over 18, or 21. To carry a concealed weapon in public you also already need an additional CCW in most states. What would your "firearms license" protect us from that these measures have not already?

    A gun registration will never happen without repealing the 2nd amendment. In every other instance in history a gun registration has only led to stricter laws and eventually confiscation. Not to mention the massive costs to implement such a program.

    Criminals don't follow laws, we agree on that. So a registration system would ONLY affect law abiding citizens, making it more expensive and difficult to own, trade, and sell firearms. Any felon is already breaking the law by being in possession of a firearm, so we have enough to jail them on those charges, we don't need more gun legislation to prosecute these thugs. If we really want to up the stakes and put these criminals away, we can simply increase the penalty for felons carrying firearms, we don't need licenses and a registration system just to prosecute them.

    What are your thoughts on ammo taxes? Basically a sin tax on ammo now exists in California. IMO a criminal drug dealer who is flush with drug money, is not going to cancel his drive by shooting because ammo went up by 25 cents a bullet. This tax truly hurts the law abiding shooter, that just wants to hunt, practice at the range, or enjoy shooting sports and competitions. It makes training more expensive for the average working man and woman that are simply trying to have fun with their hobby and/or defend themselves.

    So you don't like guns, I get that. But will your proposed laws truly make you any safer from a home invader with a gun?

    He bought a stolen firearm from his fellow criminal, it was registered in your national registration system, and he needs a license to carry it. He doesn't care about any of those things. He doesn't care that ammunition is more expensive than it used to be, because once he hits your house he will be thousands of dollars richer.

    While your proposed legislation may seem sensible, in the real world it won't keep one firearm out of a criminals possession. It is also a violation of the 2nd and 4th amendments.

    And just to be clear, stricter gun control does not decrease violence. Take a look at UK crime rates, their assault weapons of choice may be machetes and baseball bats, but when only the police have guns, they can kick in a door with confidence that they will not be met with resistance.

    In Texas there are more guns than there are people in California, but TX has a lower crime rate.
     
  13. Senat3

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    When they kick down the door i'll have 1-2 seconds? Maybe if my house consists of one room. And you just made that up off of the top of your head. The master bedroom is upstairs and down the hall, giving me at least 10 seconds to get my gun. I own a glock, it is always loaded, and the only safety it has is my brain. My gun is on my hip at all times and right next to me when I'm sleeping. And I don't pull it from the holster unless I am planning on shooting it. You don't think I have thought about this kind of stuff?

    My gun is more accessible so I'm more likely to use it in an unfortunate way? Does that seriously make sense to you? The normal person is rational and will not pull their gun unless they are going to shoot, and will not "use it in an unfortunate way" as you so eloquently put it. Like I said millions of CCW holders carry guns every day, and it's not "the wild west" out there. Shouldn't that tell you something?

    Also, many home invasions happen in sunny "safe" suburban neighborhoods with kids. Don't fool yourself into thinking, "this won't happen to me, not in my town." Because it happens every day, in very affluent neighborhoods that are considered "safe" by most. For homes with kids, a simple quick access gun safe will release your gun in 2-3 seconds if you know the code but keep it out of the hands of children.

    Shotguns, especially double barreled ones, are terrible for home defense. Do not listen to a single word Joe Biden has to say about guns. He has no expertise, real world experience, or qualifications. The proper firearm for home defense would be a handgun or a short barreled rifle.
     
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  14. CS natureboy

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    The American people deserve to know the truth about gun control. Passing strict gun control laws will not make us all safer. In fact, as you will read about below, even a study conducted at Harvard found that the more guns a nation has the less crime it tends to have. In other words, there is a very strong positive correlation between more guns and less crime. This is the exact opposite of what the mainstream media would have us believe, but it makes sense. You see, the reality is that criminals really, really, really don’t want to get shot. When you pass strict gun control laws, you take the fear of getting shot away and criminals tend to flourish. Just look at what is going on in America today. The places with the highest crime rates are the major cities where strict gun control laws have been passed. In some of those cities the police are so overwhelmed that they have announced that they simply won’t even bother responding to certain kinds of crime anymore. The truth is that the government cannot protect us adequately, and that is one reason why millions of preppers are arming themselves and gun sales have been setting new records year after year. Unfortunately, the mainstream media and many of our politicians seem absolutely obsessed with trying to restrict our constitutional right to own guns. They are waging a relentless campaign to try to convince the American people that guns are bad. But is that actually the case? Of course not. The following are 18 little-known gun facts that prove that guns make us safer…

    #1 Over the past 20 years, gun sales have absolutely exploded, but homicides with firearms are down 39 percent during that time and “other crimes with firearms” are down 69 percent.

    #2 A study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policydiscovered that nations that have more guns tend to have less crime.

    #3 The nine European nations with the lowest rate of gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate that is three times greater than the nine European nation with the highest rate of gun ownership.

    #4 Almost every mass shooting that has occurred in the United States since 1950 has taken place in a state with strict gun control laws…

    With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are banned from carrying guns. Despite strict gun regulations, Europe has had three of the worst six school shootings.

    #5 The United States is #1 in the world in gun ownership, and yet it is only 28th in the world in gun murders per 100,000 people.

    #6 The violent crime rate in the United States actually fell from 757.7 per 100,000 in 1992 to 386.3 per 100,000 in 2011. During that same time period, the murder rate fell from 9.3 per 100,000 to 4.7 per 100,000.

    #7 Approximately 200,000 women in the United States use guns to protect themselves against sexual crime every single year.

    #8 Overall, guns in the United States are used 80 times more often to prevent crime than they are to take lives.

    #9 The number of unintentional fatalities due to firearms declined by 58 percent between 1991 and 2011.

    #10 Despite the very strict ban on guns in the UK, the overall rate of violent crime in the UK is about 4 times higher than it is in the United States. In one recent year, there were 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people in the UK. In the United States, there were only 466 violent crimes per 100,000 people during that same year. Do we really want to be more like the UK?

    #11 The UK has approximately 125 percent more rape victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does.

    #12 The UK has approximately 133 percent more assault victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does.

    #13 The UK has the fourth highest burglary rate in the EU.

    #14 The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.

    #15 Down in Australia, gun murders increased by about 19 percent and armed robberies increased by about 69 percent after a gun ban was instituted.

    #16 The city of Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the United States. So has this reduced crime? Of course not. As I wrote about recently, the murder rate in Chicago was about 17 percent higher in 2012 than it was in 2011, and Chicago is now considered to be “the deadliest global city“. If you can believe it, there were about as many murders in Chicago during 2012 as there was in the entire nation of Japan.

    #17 After the city of Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring every home to have a gun, the crime rate dropped by more than 50 percent over the course of the next 23 years and there was an 89% decline in burglaries.

    #18 According to Gun Owners of America, the governments of the world slaughtered more than 170 million of their own people during the 20th century. The vast majority of those people had been disarmed by their own governments prior to being slaughtered.

    Sadly, you rarely hear any facts like these on the mainstream news networks. Instead, they give countless amounts of air time to the radicals that are obsessed with gun control.

    And did you know that there is now an official propaganda manual that has been put out for gun control advocates? This manual actually encourages gun control advocates to emotionally exploit major shooting incidents to advance the cause of gun control…

    Democratic strategists have drafted a how-to manual on manipulating the public’s emotions toward gun control in the aftermath of a major shooting.

    “A high-profile gun-violence incident temporarily draws more people into the conversation about gun violence,” asserts the guide. “We should rely on emotionally powerful language, feelings and images to bring home the terrible impact of gun violence.”

    The 80-page document titled “Preventing Gun Violence Through Effective Messaging,” also urges gun-control advocates use images of frightening-looking guns and shooting scenes to make their point.

    “The most powerful time to communicate is when concern and emotions are running at their peak,” the guide insists. “The debate over gun violence in America is periodically punctuated by high-profile gun violence incidents including Columbine, Virginia Tech, Tucson, the Trayvon Martin killing, Aurora and Oak Creek. When an incident such as these attracts sustained media attention, it creates a unique climate for our communications efforts.”

    You can read the rest of that manual right here.

    So will those pushing gun control win, or will the American people be able to see through the propaganda and insist on keeping their constitutional right to bear arms?

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/michael-snyder/is-there-any-doubt-that-guns-make-us-safer/
     
  15. Distant Lover

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    I am in favor of repealing the Second Amendment. It won't happen, but most democratic countries get along find without anything like the Second Amendment.

    I do not know this for certain, but I am confident that in most affluent democracies one needs to register guns, and people are still able to own guns. If I am mistaken, point it out, and document your assertion.
     
  16. Distant Lover

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    I think raising taxes on guns and ammunition is an excellent idea.
     
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    In the United Kingdom the murder rate per 100,000 inhabitants is 1.2. In the United States it is 4.8.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
     
  18. Distant Lover

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    That might be true, but I would like for you to document it like I document important factual assertions.
     
  19. Distant Lover

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    I did not get the advice about a shotgun from Joe Biden but from a police officer and a military veteran.

    The bullet from a handgun or a short barreled rifle can go through a wall and hit someone on the other side. Also, you can be sure of hitting what you shoot at.
     
  20. Senat3

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    #10 Despite the very strict ban on guns in the UK, the overall rate of violent crime in the UK is about 4 times higher than it is in the United States. In one recent year, there were 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people in the UK. In the United States, there were only 466 violent crimes per 100,000 people during that same year. Do we really want to be more like the UK?

    Distant lover- your violent crime statistics about US and UK are not accurate. I'm not going to waste any more time on this thread arguing my points or backing up my statistics, because no matter how blatantly obvious the facts are, you people refuse to see the light.

    Good luck with your pepper spray dude!