Paedophilia is only wrong if it is forced upon a child.
I was a willing participant from the age of six and my 'predator' was the greatest person I have ever known in my life - yet I am not a pedo.
I am happily married with 6 children, none of whom have been exposed to any 'predation' and extremely wealthy and successful thanks to the money I earned when I was hired out for sexual purposes by my 'handler'.
He received huge payments for my services from the rich and famous and made sure that everyone I was hired to would treat me well and with respect.
My share was banked and used later to establish my first business venture after I had graduated from University with Honours in Law and Commerce.
When he died he left a large share his money to me and my sister, who was also one of his 'children', that set us up for life.
My wife and I own numerous businesses here in Australia and in Japan, Britain, Europe and the USA and both of us still have very active and varied sex lives at 65 years of age.

 

That sounds pretty sweet, but I don't think that is how it goes most of the time.
Unfortunately most of the time these poor kids are used, and abused until they either escape, or are too old to make their handlers money, and then they're discarded, and never see a dime of the money made.

I like reading, and writing stories about under age characters, but I find actual CP to be morally reprehensible.
It destroys kids lives, and I'm not down with that.

 

Commenting on the original posting here. If this ban has come about because of complaints regarding young sex stories, then it's stupid because if you don't like to read child sex stories, DON'T READ THEM. But if this has come about for other reasons, then I have no issues with it. That's how I see it. I personally like reading fantasy stories about child sex, but would never in a hundred thousand years ever even once think about touching someone under 18. It's wrong and immoral. But to fantasize about it is okay in my opinion.

 

Statutory rape. At an age before you're sexually aware (that is before puberty for most people) you do not know (and physically cannot know - your brain doesn't develop enough until at least the age of 10-12) what you are consenting to, and therefore cannot give informed consent to any sexual acts. So technically, all forms of pedophilia is forced on the child, even if he child thinks that s/he is making a decision for him/herself.

Also, Stockholm syndrome. When trapped into doing something over time one can develop feelings for one's captor, and even feel that s/he loves the person forcing the person into an action. No matter how awful something might be at the time, the victim will retroactively defend the captor in his/her actions, and will show great affection toward the person

Those two things with a touch of prostitution seem to sum up your post; I'm glad you're functioning alright, in the end, but you're not really a good example of someone where pedophilia was a "good thing" for him.

I'm glad that they banned pedophilia stories on the site. Allowing such things on the site can give grounds to people who want to shut the place down, if they chose to do so. Any sexual depiction involving minors is illegal in some countries (in America, the Protect act made any depiction of minors engaged in sexual activity illegal, for example). Doesn't matter if you think it's right or wrong, it's still illegal, and the site needs to cover it's ass and remove self incriminating material from it.

 

The fact is they've never explained why as far as I know, and I think that most, if not all of us are like you in the sense that we would never abuse a child no matter how many stories we read about it.

 

I think you need to actually read the statute in question.
It says nothing about written material, and even CGI images have to meet certain criteria.
United States code title 18, chapter 110, subsection 2256, bullet 8 states that, and I'm paraphrasing here, any photograph, film, picture, video, computer, or computer generated, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct is considered "child pornography".
However, it further states that such visual images must be "indistinguishable" from that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.

To put in simply, if the average person can look at an image, and easily see that the figures in it are not real people then it is not CP, and therefore legal.
At least that's how we define it in the States.
Your country may have different laws, so I'd advise you to look it up.

 

Not paraphrased...

Doesn't extend to stories directly, so I am wrong about that (it could be legally argued that stories are graphic depictions of children engaged in sexual acts could equally apply, and I hold that the site should protect itself from that). However, they amended what you're thinking of back in 2003 - it now states that if it is OR is indistinguishable from a minor, it is considered CP (which actually INCREASES the number of pictures that could be considered CP rather than narrow the field, as you suggest). So if it is simply a picture of a minor involved in sexual activity then it is illegal - it does NOT need to be indistinguishable from real life CP, according to how the law currently stands.

 

I'm sorry, but is English not your first language?
it explicitly says that if it is (an actual child) or is indistinguishable from a minor...
No real people, or no image that is so close that you can't tell the difference, no crime, and in my opinion that's as it should be.

Real CP is a horrible thing, and should be prosecuted, but no fiction should ever be illegal, no matter how distasteful one might find it.
If we start making laws about what one can do to a fictional character that would be the first step on the fast track to criminalizing all kinds of fiction.
I really don't think we want to go down that road.

 

"OR" is the significant word, here, not "IS" (seriously, "is"? What is wrong with you?). Depiction is also an important word (that you completely ignored, by the way). A depiction is a representation of an image or action; it does not need to be a photo realistic image, at all. I suggest you don't insult someone's comprehension skills when you're in disagreement. It could backfire on you, as it's in the process of doing now.

By the way, if you DO have any loli porn on your hard drive and you're an American citizen then I suggest you get rid of it. People HAVE been arrested for possessing it (without any other CP, mind you), and I'm not sure why you haven't heard about such arrests before.

 

A charge is just that, now if he's convicted, then I'll be concerned.
Whether one emphasizes or, is, or any other word is irrelevant, the sentence clearly states that if an image is (a minor) or is indistinguishable from a minor it's CP.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
I'm not trying to be insulting, but anyone who can read English should be able to understand what that means.

 

Wow so much hatred...

Wow where do I begin exactly? Ok so first off I will state that I do not have an opinion in this topic one way or the other. But I do want to place this down on the table. So to begin I was sexually molested around the age of 4 by a girl who was around the age of 15. I live in Colorado Springs CO. So what has this experience done to me? Well a few things, first off it taught me what a joy sexual acts can be and that they are natural. But later I learned from my mother that sexual acts should be done through love as it shows all of you. And right now I am an extremely hard working and open minded man. I got high grades in school without having to study, and I am very artistic and have been told that I am an amazingg writer.I have never touched drugs or alcohol. And am in a stable and happy relationship. The only thing this one out of many bad experiences in my life has done to me is make me want to learn more about it. What causes children to go bad is the fear of what Sex can do keeping the adults in the child's life from helping them learn more. I have met a 50 year old woman who knew less about sex because no one ever taught her about it out of fear of her "growing to quickly." Oh and lastly I find it amusing how people say pedophilism is worse than murder. Want to know the main difference between them? The child has a chance to live a normal life, might be hard but they can do it. The murder victim has no more life to live.

 

Hatrad is kind of a strong word.

A difference of opinion with a stranger on the Internet is not nearly enough to provoke my hatred.
Despite your lack of an opinion on the subject, after two years on here, that is one of the most lucid, and intelligent things I've ever seen written on this topic.
So my hats off to you.

 

At this point I accept that you are a troll, and that I've been successfully trolled, at this point. No one with two brain cells to rub together could mess up my response this badly. I give you that benefit of a doubt that you are not a complete moron and are acting stupid to rile me up, so this conversation is over. Trolls are annoying.

Have a good day, and feel free to have the last word, as I'm not responding past this point (considering you've not refuted my point at all with your response, I don't think I'd need to, anyway).

 

If anyone is a troll here it's you.
...if an image is (a minor) or is indistinguishable from a minor it's CP.
The key word being indistinguishable, meaning one can't tell if it's real, or not.
I honestly don't see how you could possibly misunderstand that, I mean it's not as if it's cloaked in legal mumbo-jumbo, it's straight forward English.

 

Haha, well done Eric, you just been called a troll by someone who joined here in March.
Although I would hazard a guess, he is a sock. No matter, still funny.

 

Yeah, the first time he pretended he didn't understand that sentence, or rather claimed that it said the exact opposite of what it actually said, I knew he was just trying to yank my chain, but for the sake of others who might read this thread I felt compelled to make it absolutely clear.

Of course after giving it some thought I now realize that I misspoke when I said, "A charge is just that, now if he's convicted, then I'll be concerned."
Actually a conviction wouldn't necessarily be a cause for concern because it could still be overturned in the applet courts on constitutional grounds.
Ideally it would go all the way to the Supreme Court, and then that law would be more, or less done for, or at least that rather perverse interpenetration of a sub-clause.


By the way, how you doin' Scot?

 

To Clearify

I think the point is that it is still legal as long as you can clearly tell that it is fake. And to be honest anyone can draw two stick figures humping and someone can say "Hey wait a minute that one is way to young to be pulling the rabbit!" But one cannot tell just by looking so you must have further evidence to say "Yup that is definitely CP." However since from what I have read most people just say that they were young but not exactly how young. And most say they experienced sexual curiosity which starts the sexual act in the first place, which sexual curiosity starts the moment hormones are produced, which in females can be as young as 9 years old or younger. Oh and that syndrome that has you bond to your captor is usually created from feelings of affection before the actually captivity started because most people who suffer from it say "but they weren't always that way." But the natural human instinct is to run from painful experiences so if you are captured beforehand and are just treated horribly then the syndrome just won't start.

 

Oh and one more point...

There is one more thing I want to place on the table, most people who are against pedophilism are people who know nothing about it truely and just what kind of effects it may have eventually. So how do they learn? They ask someone who was a so called victim of this so called horrible crime. From most of who I talk to they are just fine and they just say, "ehh people make way to big of a deal of it. It truely wasn't all that bad." The ones who are truely screwed up are either the ones who were painfully raped, was always taught sex is a sin and that if you enjoy something that isn't socially accepted you will die a horrible person, or lastly people who went through it and had parents who acted like it was the end of the world. Just remember children learn from the words and even more so the actions of the parents. That is why if a child is a whiteness to parents beating eachother they are more likely to beat their spouse because it was just engraved in them by their parents. It takes a strong child to stand up and say, "I refuse to make the same mistakes my parents made." For example my mother was a drug addict and I have yet to touch the crap. And lastly, remember it was barely over 100 years ago when it was socially acceptable for 40 year old normal men to marry young 12 year old women. Just because people say it is bad now doesn't mean it really is. So please think for yourselves. Thank you.

 

If one is abused it seems like the path nof least resistance to become an abuser, but some people are made of sterner stuff, and become the kind of people who would never knowingly hurt someone they love.
At least that's how it looks to me from the people I've met, and discussed this with.

 

Clarification

I beg your forgiveness but you would seem to be right to a certain extent. I just used the first example that came to mind and that could be easily understood. However I probably should have used an example I myself have more experience in. As such I shall use drugs once again, when most people learn my back story the first thing they say is, "it is truely amazing you have stayed away from drugs this long. You would be more succeptable to them since you learned the habit from your mother." As in most cases it is true that those who do drugs learns them from someone close in their life. Granted it is not always a parent but it could be. It is truely amazing how people say they didn't evolve from monkeys when humans are so talented in "Monkey see monkey do".