Not just better a dead horse, beating a dead horsr with it own rotting limbs.
This post is like ring a ring a rosie, now. Or pissing in a corner of a round room.

 

Final judgement...

Ok so I do have to agree this subject is starting to loop. At first new ideas were common but now... it just is starting to repeat itself. So here is my conclusion based off what information was made along with things I have learned through other people in life, cross references on the net, and my own personal experiences. And the final verdict is... (God I am going to get so much hate for this) The ban was unjustified. Look let's face it the most common argument was that pedophilia is immoral, which like I said before just does not count as a good argument by any means. Secondly was the argument that it might give people ideas on sexually assaulting children, which I myself knocked down *See my "Video Games Cause Violence Rant*. The only other argument was that it is illegal, which I believe my acquaintance Eric The Red had a mild debate with someone on. Which again the argument was beaten by the fact the law doesn't really cover written material. So as far as I can tell the ban was set in place because either the head had gotten threatened to have the book thrown at them which scared them, or they just got too many complaints made from fear and ignorance by people who didn't know what they were truely talking about. Ok so let's try to end this,

If you agree with me please say: Second and quote me

If you disagree with me please say: Objection, quote me, and give your argument why. If the only argument you have was mentioned before in this post then it will be ignored.

Please start your voting now.

 

I agree with this rule; I've read stories and series on here - as long as the portrayers are in or past puberty and acting out with each other, I will still read the story if it has good character and plot development. Pre-adolescents and children are automatically out and should be excluded from any stories. This rule works fine for me, though I would prefer to have a category that strictly lists ages 16+, so that I can avoid reading about children.

 

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Okay, it's time for me to just cut through the bullshit, and lay it on the line.
Now I'm probably going to piss some people off, but that is not why I'm posting this, just to piss people off, I think that trolling, and all that bullshit is asinine, but when one gets real there is a good chance you are going to piss some people off so my apologies in advance if what I'm about to say makes you mad.

So taking this at it's face, are you really saying that a nine year old girl who she's a parent murdered is going to be less traumatized than one who got felt up by her uncle?
Seriously?
How can you even presume to compare suffering like that?
I'm only posting this because I want to give you credit, and believe that you are blessed with enough empathy to think about that, and realize how absurd it is.

If we were talking about real children, I couldn't agree more, but the fact is we are not.
The fact is that a fictional child absolutely can be as mentally, and emotionally mature as a 40 year old if you write her that way, hell for that matter she can shoot fire out of her ass like a dragon if you wanted because she's not real.
You fucking made her up in your head!

Here's something that hasn't been said before.
One of my stories that was pulled from here, Popping Ashley's little cherry, involves a man's incestuous relationship with his 8/9 year old daughter, but I don't see how any sane person could read that story, and think that Ashley is a real child.
She kind of acts like a kid, but the way I wrote her she's more mentally mature, and emotionally together then a lot of thirty year old's I know.
There's a good reason for that to, and it's because it's not really a story about incest, and pedophilia, it's about incest role play, and age play.
I write for grown women who like to pretend they are little girls getting fucked by daddy, they get off on it, and so do I, and if you want to think that's sick so be it, but know what you are objecting to, and until you write this stuff, well, (all modesty aside) you can't really be aware of how many of them there are because they tend to be somewhat shy about it, and only approach those that they feel understand.

Now Ima drop tha real bomb.
I met the love of my life because of that fucking story that I wrote, and yes, it may be true that she might still have contacted me from reading my other stories,(she loves them too.) but the fact is she told me that was the one that really spoke to her, and made her think that I might be the man for her.
I just thank god that she got to read it before it was taken down, because she was right, and I will treat her right because she's a perfect little girl, and deserves a loving daddy.
Now once again, you may choose to think that's sick, and that's your right, and it's your right to say so, and I would never dream of taking that away from you, but what I do is between consenting adults, and if you don't like it, basically, fuck you, and anybody else that's trying to tell grown ass people what they are allowed to fucking fantasize about!
That's just BULLSHIT!
Now feel perfectly free to be offended, but I ain't got to justify shit to you because I know, I'm doing anything wrong.

 

In 50 years time this post will still be going and arguing around in circles. I wish there was an ignore but for posts not just usernames, it has gotten to ridiculous proportions now. Fine if you like pedo, rape, incest stories, fine. If u don't then fine too. But if u are pedo and want this post to run til eternity, i hope to god someone takes your balls and feed it to the pigs while u are made to watch.
No one will agree with this post, as it has shown, from being started ages ago. Whether u agree or disagree, this argument will never end. For fuck sake, grow up everyone, that includes me.
If u disagree with my comments fine. U may post hateful shit about me on here, fine. U push it too far and i have no problem reporting u, some goes for those asshole PM and calling me those names. pfft pfft pfft

 

And you think pedo stories are sick?
What you just wrote there is pretty fucked up, I mean come on, for real.
Pedophile, and child molester are not synonymous.

I don't attack people, I attack arguments, and will call bullshit when I see it, but that doesn't mean I have any bad feelings for you personally, I don't even know you, and anybody who does attack you personally is taking that shit way to far, but on the other hand when you contend that someones fictional stories are probably causing child rape without one credible shred of evidence to back it up, can you honestly be surprised that they get kind of pissed off at that accusation?

 

You know Eric the truth is the more you talk the more I like you. But you are right, all you have said to this point is completely true. To be honest, what can I say further than this. Those who wish to remain ignorant, let them. Eventually they get what they have coming. But people who are open minded might read this and take something from it. Hey at least we can hope.

 

To be honest that's why I posted it, and maybe I'm just too "old school", but I still believe that reasonable people can differ without having to be ugly.

 

If your old school then so am I. I just hate that what I say carries no real ground just because I just signed up here...

 

Look ErictheRed, in real life i have no time for grown men using pre-teens to get their rocks off. So i back down from none of my comments on them.

 

Well I don't mess with none of that, I'm into grown women who like to pretend they're little girls being fucked by daddy, and that's who I write for.
I never really give a physical description of the daddies in my stories so that what ever woman is reading it can picture the kind of daddy she likes.
Now you can think that's sick if you want, but it's between consenting adults, and I feel comfortable with that.

 

Eric..
I don't mind that, 16-25 year old acting like young teens, so i dont begrudge you there. In some countries 16 is an adult. Its like role-play and consentual.

 

I guess all my posts in this thread have been me mourning the good old days.
Like two summers ago, I would get two or three PMs a week from new women asking, "Will you be my daddy?" or "Daddy, tell me a story." and it was just awesome.:excited:
They don't hang out here in as great a number anymore because they can't read the stories they like.
I met so many cool women on here, and now it's like that's just over, and it makes me sad.

 

Well I don't know how young you make your characters, excuse me how young you like them to be in your stories, but the age limit is set to 13 in the forums as of January.

 

13 is a bit young, if the adult is 40+. 13 seems ok if person is up to 18, at most 20. I know i was young and i had young adults as my partners, but 13 i was still screwed up in the head. But thats real life. Stories are stories.

 

Alright, let's argue about something else

How about we argue over the title to this thread. You guys are writers, or at least like to write, and that's the best you could come up with? Back-to-back prepositions? It's almost as bad a Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Almost...

I would have put something like Pro-Pedo Ban Thread, but that's just me.

 

Ah don't listen to this guy.
His idea of humor is obviously nothing more than an insightful observation, phrased in a witty manner, and delivered with impeccable timing.

Psh, anybody can do that.
:excited:

 

i am 100% against censorship, but i agree, this site is not the only porn site/story site online. if u want phedo stories go find them somewhere else. its not censorship if u have a choice.

 

Yeah, but that's not even the point anymore.
I have other sites where I have lots of readers so I'm fully aware, but the point to me is the debate because once that's done this site is done as far as I'm concerned.

Free speech doesn't mean you debate until some rule/law is made, and then everybody shuts up about it.
It never ends.
People still have strongly held beliefs that they want to defend, and if they changed the rule back tomorrow I would expect people to argue strongly against that, just like they did back when you could post ANYTHING!
The day you can't even talk about it anymore, idk, that just seems kind of sad to me.