Except that this site used to be "somewhere else." It used to be a place with no limitations at all. That's one of the things that brought me here in the first place. Not because I enjoy stories about 3 year olds having sex, but because once you set up rules, you immediately run into the issue of enforcing them, which always ends up inconsistent.

Case in point: I posted a story on another site that had a "not under 16" rule. I posted a story that involved a 16-year-old, but it got taken down because it had a flashback (a very innocent one - no sex) of when she was 9. I saw some other stories on that site with "preteen" or "prepubescent" kids having sex, which were not removed because they didn't actually mention the age. So from then on, I refuse to post my stories anywhere with content limitations. XNXX gets a pass because I was already here before they made the rule, and I enjoy the community too much.

So when you say "go somewhere else" you are not just talking to newcomers who are looking for porn stories or deciding whether to post their stories here. You are talking to established authors and fans, some of whom have been here since the beginning. Those who made this site popular in the first place. It's a slap across the face, equivalent to saying, "thanks for everything you did to make this site great, now fuck off."

 

Are these the "Thought Police" ? Are some thoughts simply too dangerous to let people have ?

Have to ask the men who are on here.... you never once looked at a 16 year old girl. Those smooth legs, and firm breasts with perky nipples. And thought "Ohh my god, that's some tasty meat. Sweet jesus, if I could, I'd just swoop in, sweep her off her feet, and show her what a night with a real man is like." ?

Not even once ? Ever ? 'cause if you did, somone call the Thought Police, you just commited a thought crime.

The internet is the one last refuge of free thought left. Don't police it.

 

Hear, hear.

 

I agree, but good luck on convincing any of the anti-pedo-story people here to admit that they've ever been attracted to a teenager. They'll never admit it because it would weaken their argument.

 

If this was ancient Greece most of the stories on this site would be intergenerational.
Let me state that being a victim of sexual abuse I am totally not cool with anything dealing with forced sex, or molestation.
If someone writes a story about something sexual that happened to them when they were younger how is that wrong?
If I have a flash back of some of my boy hood adventures, and get a hard on thinking about it how is that unnatural?

THINK OUTSIDE THE FUCK'N BOX!!!!!!!!

 

Umm,Hi..i'm new over here, this being my first post. So i wanna ask, is there an age limit of character involved even in a fictional/fantasy story?
I've read stories here involving early teenage characters. so if there's an age limit, what is it?

 

If you'd just click right here it will take you to the sticky post on that very subject.

 

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yeah i read that. so the age limit is 16. From the rule, i get it that under 16 would be classified as pedo. I'm still confused though I've read a story where there are 13 y/o involved and one even more underage. So where does this age limit rule stand?

I'm writing a fictional story where 1 character is 14 y/o. I've no problem to augment the age by 2 years to abide to the rule. The thing is its fictional sex story, the characters would still have sex anyway.

 

Maybe I should have warned you that the "policy" about "clearly pedo" stories doesn't necessarily clear things up.

The way I read this, and what has happened behind it, is that although there is no firm age limit, if an under age character has sex with an adult, and a reader is offended, they can report it, citing examples in the text, then a mod looks it over, if the mod concludes that it is a "clearly pedo" story, it gets deleted.

Now do I think it's silly, bordering on delusional, to regulate what one can do with and/or to people that don't really exist?
Most certainly, but I don't own the site so it's not really my call.
Good luck.

 

Thanks for bringing this up. I see now how the vague rule work. I call it vague because that how it comes off right-away.
Whats really surprising about it is real life stories are readily accepted, while a fictional one would be charged, under that rule. I'm flabbergasted!
Anyway jmo..

 

I notice that the pedo story defenders are still up to their same old bullshit regarding the "No shit, Sherlock" point that they make regarding the fact that we can't police thoughts.

Nobody is saying that we can do such. So quit it with the strawman building.

It's one thing to try to police a certain thought. It's quite another to promote, encourage, and celebrate such thoughts.

Let me once again remind you pedos that a majority of sane, normal people find your thinking to be sick and you thinkers of such thinking to be sick fucks that they wouldn't let anywhere near their kids if they knew that you beat off to such material. End of.

 

They might not be saying that we can do such, but there are plenty of people seem to be trying. You are one of them. I'll explain below.

I'll assume you meant "it's one thing to NOT try to police a certain thought" because that makes more sense in the context of the rest of your statement.

I agree with this statement; there is a difference.

But both policing and promoting are active actions. Effort must be put forth to do either one. For instance, a site with no rules neither polices nor promotes. A site that says, "Pedo stories welcome!" in big, bold letters on the home page is promoting. A site with a rule against certain types of stories is policing.

You could argue that that's just policing the stories, not the thoughts, but you've made it clear that the reason you are opposed to pedo stories is that you are opposed to pedophilic thoughts. (Exhibit A: the rest of your post below) In other words, you DO want to police thoughts.

Explain to me the difference between the morality of pedo stories and the morality of stories about, say, shemales. Both are considered creepy and disgusting by most people.

And before you talk about the legality of actions in real life, keep in mind that you have yet to demonstrate that the net result of pedo stories is more children molested. Until you do, I do not consider that a valid argument.

 

No. There is no "not" meant in my post above. I was pointing out the difference between policing and promoting. Policing is a form of ANTI. Promoting is a form of PRO. For a website to allow such stories...and for it to allow responses by posters praising such stories and making such comments like "I wish I had a little daughter like that"...is NOT a neutral activity. It's a PRO activity.

Per your logic unless I accept pedo thoughts as being wonderful then I'm policing them.

Celebrating, encouraging, and promoting something usually leads to more of something. Therefore, promoting pedo thinking would most likely lead to more pedo thinking...not less. Also, it's a known fact that all child molesters had a pedo thought before they engaged in a pedo act. While it's true that many pedos don't act on their thinking there are those who will allow their lusts to overpower their will...and they will act out their desires.

Let me explain it this way....

Prior to seeing a hawt tranny in porn many moons ago I had NO THOUGHT regarding trannies in a sexual way. (I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a tranny fetish...or hawt trannies.) Now that I've seen them a whole bunch in tranny porn it's about nearly ALL THAT I THINK ABOUT. :wall:

Many moons ago I wouldn't have wanted to fuck a hawt tranny since I had no idea that hawt trannies or a hawt tranny fetish even existed. Now I want to fuck one badly. I'm even thinking of joining a tranny dating site to meet one.

Get my point? :neutral:

 

I just thought (no pun intended) of something else.

Writing, promoting, and reading pedo stories (as well as producing, promoting, and viewing "virtual CP" or cartoon CP) isn't just thinking. It's doing something. (Under the law such activities by the producers and promoters of such material could be classified as pandering.)

Thus we're not dealing with thoughts here. We're dealing with actions.

Hence the thought police bullshit is just that.... Bullshit.

 

Chasing those windmills again? There are no windmills here.

 

i agree with Shepherdess well stated.

 

Trolls on a adult forum.Priceless
I am not surprised if these trolls r actually 15 or younger.

 

I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree here. You claim that not outlawing something is by nature encouraging it. I claim that encouragement requires active steps to be taken.

First, I don't care what thoughts you have in your mind. We're talking about website rules here.

Second, you're (deliberately?) misinterpreting me. I stated quite clearly that I believe that policing is active. You cannot police anything unless you create rules forbidding something. So whatever your attitude is on certain thoughts is irrelevant unless you take active steps in one direction or another.

They also took a breath of air before they engaged in a pedo act. Should we outlaw breathing? (I'm joking of course; just using this as an absurd example to illustrate the fallacy of your logic)

For the sake of argument, let's assume you're right, that there is such a thing as passive encouragement. I can understand what you're trying to say here. You're arguing that increasing pedo thinking necessarily increases pedo activity. It seems obvious, sure.

But reality is far more complex than can be summed up with a single claim. The increase in pedo thoughts probably does contribute to an increase in pedo acts in certain cases. But there's a very strong likelihood that it prevents other potential pedo acts by giving pedos a way to keep their thoughts in the fantasy realm. The only question that matters is whether the NET result is more or less pedo acts.

True enough, but you still have never addressed the "safe outlet" argument I've made many times before.

I used to watch violent movies. Eventually I grew out of that phase. How? Simply put, I got bored with it. You could say I overloaded my thirst for violence without committing a single violent act. So you could say that watching violent movies made me a less (potentially) violent person. Who knows what I would have been capable of if I hadn't had a safe outlet like that?

Get my point?

 

Chasing those windmills again? There are no windmills here.

 

Oh Joe, what am I gonna do with you?
The tranny example just doesn't wash unless you're talking about under age trannies.
An adult, regardless of gender, and/or cross gender can consent.
Not nearly as taboo, and so you can seriously think about sex with a tranny, and not really feel like you're doing anything wrong.
Reading a story about sex with a child isn't the same because unless you are just a sociopath, you would feel really wrong about seriously entertaining the idea of sex with a real child.

You claim to know what sane, and normal people think about, but I happen to think that a "sane", "normal" person could read, and even write pedo stories every day for the rest of their life, and they will still never think that assaulting a child is a good idea.

Then there's the role play aspect that no one even wants to address when arguing against these type of stories.
Back in the day I used to get two or three PMs a week from new women asking me to be their "daddy".
That's how I knew I'd written it right, those women got it, and since those were the women I was interested in that worked out great.
Until you write this kind of stuff you have no idea how many women have a little girl inside that just wants to be told the daddy loves her.
I honestly couldn't keep up, it was awesome, but that's over now, and I accept that, but what I won't ever do is agree that it was a good idea, or back down on the principle of free speech.

Now let me get real here.
As a writer daddy/daughter incest fantasies are fun to write because the extremity of incest, and pedophilia as plot devices lend themselves so easily to dealing with a lot of interesting questions about society, mostly in the subtext because as a sex story you don't want to beat your readers over the head with the deeper themes, you want them to think about it later, and discover those things on their own.
Child molesters, and that's who we should all be worried about, they don't need my stories to be attracted to children, and I tend to doubt that they spend their time on xnxx talking to other adults about under age sex stories.
They're on the Disney site, or where ever else children congregate becaue they are into real children.

I'll give you credit for still showing up to argue the point which is something not to many will do now that they've got their way.
I always argued the point, even when it was our way, and you could post anything, and there's a good reason for that.
If things are the way you think they should be, then it's even more important that you be willing to put up a good argument as to why you think it should be that way.
To me it's important.