What part of that upsets you...thats its right?

 

glad the old cfh420 is back. Sorry I won't be leaving this country anytime soon. I have my twenty dollar an hour job and believe that we should start a mandatory sterilization starting with you

 

You hate freedom, because your a fat faggot socialist fuck.

 

oh yeah i hate freedom. I hate freedom so much that i notice when the extreme right wing wants to limit the rights of women, homosexuals, and minorities. That sure is hating freedom to give everyone freedom.

 

I never said thats right, but your wrong on everything you say.

 

I agree that soldiers make a choice to be there but I still think they deserve respect for making that choice. Maybe even more so because they're doing it in the best interests of their country rather than their own.

 

okay whatever you say cfh. I will go make my 20 dollars an hour soon to be 25 and thank my college education for getting me that. Gotta love it.

 

This has nothing to do with you?
Enjoy your weed, and self-acquired freedom of speech, moron.

My kids earn that doing general labour and working their way through college.

 

Hold the people that were accountable for 9/11, not Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya

EDUCATE YOURSELF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE

 

That's good. I hope they can keep good jobs like that after they graduate. The rate of unemployment for college graduates is going higher than another group.

Took me almost a year to find this job and I know that I am making more right now that I would in a public sector job I turned down before I took this job. I don't have as great as benefits though, but the pay was enough to where i didn't care about those benefits.

 

You are correct. Rape is not merely a sexual act. It is a sexual violent act. Penetration isn't always with the penis, but some rapists use 'foreign objects' to commit the act.

It is true the male gets aroused. But it is also true that a person prone to violence of any type will experience pleasure to some degree; be it football hooligans, spousal/familial abusers, or 'Angry Arnie', all will experience arousal to some degree.

Again, correct. As a rapist 'evolves' (or devolves), he will often need to dominate and show his power more aggressively. This is where rapist often changes from 'only' the sexually violent assault to beating his victim.

This is not true. There have been enough studies done on the mindset of rapists to get a fairly accurate portrayal of what goes on in their heads, without anybody else actually resorting to the act themselves.

If this were the case, and the males were only acting out their sexual frustrations on women they 'can't have' - prostitutes would never get raped, but they do. Husbands would never rape wives, but they do. There would be absolutely no danger of me being raped by a stranger as I'm walking down the street, dressed in a short skirt, skimpy top, and high heels in the middle of London at 11pm, but there is.

Rough sex and rape are different. We should be careful not to confuse the two.

I was going to break down my answer for this post into numbered segments, dealing with each point raised, but my answer will work better when taken as a whole:

The majority of judicial systems haven't yet managed to catch up with the law (in Western society), in that, females (and children) actually have the right to live free of degradation, segregation, and abuse. It is also true, that when a person accused of rape goes to trail, it is the victim who has to prove they live their life like a Stepford Wife. It is very difficult to prove 'rape' itself occurred, and courts still do come down on the side of the accused, not the accuser.

This, in part, could be because of the 'false' claims made (although one would have to take into consideration the psychological effect of reporting rape, and the way victims are treated - i.e. not believed at worst, and with skepticism at best in the majority of cases). If a victim, often in shock, remember, cleanses themselves first before reporting the crime, they wash away their best evidence. And it's usually a 'he said/she said' scenario anyway.

It is only recently that rape suites have been made available, and we now see victims questioned by women (often out of uniform). This is one reason why so few victims have reported rape in the past, because of the lack of these 'victim friendly, safe suites', which should be a must have for every policing authority if they are to truly represent all of the people.

Victims of rape often become aroused, not just the perpetrator of the crime. This has nothing at all to do with 'liking' the experience, as I take some posts in this thread to lean toward, but pure biology. We know the vagina, for instance, is self-lubricating; this lubrication process is still present during a rape (and in fact, it may help to stop the victim from receiving more internal damage). For the males who are raped (and they aren't raped by females as often as by other males, don't forget), will still become aroused. Neither scenario lends itself to an enjoyment of the crime, but pure bodily reactions, something we're conditioned to respond to.

Rape itself is embarrassing for the victim. This we know and can understand. But it's not just the crime itself which is embarrassing, it's the skepticism and disbelief which they are often subjected to afterward that prevents a lot of victims from coming forward and reporting the crime. This is a major fault of the judicial and police services, and nothing at all to do with the victim.

This is about the most intelligent response I've seen you make in this thread, and you've made a few.

This happens a lot. Victims do not report sexual assault because they themselves have to prove they 'weren't asking for it' (by the way they dressed, or if they'd had a few to many to drink, or had taken a short cut down a dimly lit street, etc, etc - the 'excuses FOR rape are pretty much never ending, but the crime is not the fault of the victim; EVER; it is ALWAYS the fault of the rapist).

It would be interesting to ask your friends how they would like to see things change. You would get a better picture of what they see as flaws in the system. As outsiders, we can only surmise what should be changed, but the victims themselves will be able to underscore the failings of an imperfect system.

 

Is this a serious sign of the times or just a surrender of ambition/esteem when people are feeling grateful not only being so seriously undervalued but not even making a living wage?

 

I think a sign of the times. Especially since college graduates are hardly considered worth the effort in some companies eyes. I remember I applied for positions that were easily in my education level and they passed on me due to lack of experience. They want people with experience yet they don't hire them for it.

As for the topic. Rape is wrong on all levels no matter what idiot believes what he wants about a certain num,ber of women liking it.

 

Amen.

Do any of you know a rape victim? I know two.

One is a woman who went to a college party when she was seventeen. A few drinks, a Rohypnal slipped into one of them, and she lost all three virginities. Apparently violently, from what she told me of her injuries. Ten years later, she still has touch issues, sleeps with the lights on, and is uncomfortable around men.

The other is a young man. He had a "funny uncle" when he was a little boy. He's grown up into a very fucked-up adult.

It CAN'T be about the sex for these perpetrators. Sure, they get their rocks off, in some way, whether it's through penetration, or masturbation, or spontaneous emission. But it's really about power.

And that's sick.

I tend to agree with the soldier boy. Take them out back and shoot them.

But how do you really proove rape? I also know a guy who pretty much had his life ruined by an accusation of rape. The girl simply walked into the cop shop and said she had been raped. The weekend before. Since she wasn't pregnant, there was zero physical evidence to substantiate her claim that ANYONE had had sex with her recently, let alone the guy she accused, but he got arrested and booked anyway. It wasn't until he was able to produce a paper trail of his whereabouts on the weekend he allegedly attacked her, showing he was out of town on business, that the charges were dropped.

She didn't even get a slap on the wrist. No charges for filing a false police report ("I could have sworn he was at that party!"), no defamation of character suit, nothing. She did it to two other guys in other states later.

In a way, she raped them.

People. Sheeesh.

 

question

When I say that rapists are motivated by sexual desire and that they get pleasure from the act, I sometimes anger people. Can anyone tell me why? I am not justifying the crime, I am explaining it.

 

I have no idea. You and I agree on that because I don't think it's always about power.

 

I do actually

But before i can tell you i must show you something.

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Lawful_Evil
read this d&d nerd material.

In America we are Know as Lawful Evil.

Captalism in america promotes selfish gain, and destroy other's finnacial creation, in retrospect to law.

When rich people say poor people are too weak to better themselves, do you believe that is true? or perhaps we live in a Lawful evil SOciety.

Same with Rape. Rape cases don't get reported, so by law, Rape is NOT COMMON. You have to report a rape case, and a Police Officer files the paper work and inserts it into the Politcal and Law System.

But since few cases are ever documented in Are Law Society, Law then dictates Rape is more rare then getting struck by Lightning.

Law can be used for very evil dark intents So always keep an eye out.

And another thing...

 

Christina i have a plan to help others.

We need more women, or more gay guys, to change the world.

Emotions are the key to saving our world No lies.
If we cant be openly emotional enough to save the human race, or to save each other make a different, our world will get worse.

When Hitler did his Mass execution of Jews, that opens our emotional Cage, as Basic Human compassion. That's a Low wrongness in history, and as such are emotions really opened.

If we cant use emotions to save our world, a Terrible thing, like World war 3, or An Evil anti christ, will open are emotions and heart For us.

I know this sounds insane and loco It's just my opinion

 

Some people need to feel in power and show they can control another person. That is the reason i feel it happens so much, though it is still sick in my eyes. There was actually an incident on the subway last monday where a woman was sexually assaulted during morning rush hour the main thing that sickens me is the male who did it was about 140 pounds and 6 foot 7, there were 8 witnesses and no one did a thing to help this poor woman.