I am, but will probably turn it off in a few weeks.

I'm getting tired of it as a time sink and I have more work commitments on the horizon so it will become irrelevant and counter productive at the same time for me.

 

Me!!!

 

I am on facebook.

 

i think most people in general are these days. (i am)

 

no.....hate it.

 

He doesn't see you. So he doesn't care. Why did you even write this reply?! God.

 

I have one. I mostly just scroll through saying, "hate, hate, don't care, you i like, the rest can fuck off." Some people post legitimate things. Others inform the world of getting their period, going to bed, getting pregnant. That's cool.

 

what book?

 

I'm not, I'm with the group who stays in touch the old fashioned way I guess. As an HR Manager for a large company I can tell you that even though we are not supposed to research applicants through social networking sites, we do. I can say the majority of HR reps I know do the same, it's always a fun topic at seminars and conventions, hearing all the reasons we decided not to hire people because of things on their facebook. Even something as harmless as a pic of you with your 7 year old kid at an amusement park...cute...but it tells me you have a kid right at the age where you'll be having to leave work every other week to pick him up from school for a snotty nose or something. My favorite applicants are the ones whose facebook and google searches return very little results.

On the flipside, my cousin is the CEO for a computer programming company and he argues that he won't hire anyone without a digital footprint.

 

I'm on Facebook. Kinda addicted to it tbh.

 

Pretty short sighted. In fact I was let go in 1999 by a fortune 100 company for that very reason. A managing consultant saw no harm in fully disclosing this. I utilized the Ontario Ministry of Labour to resecure my position with a bullet proof HR evaluation guarantee thrown in. I remained until I found a more suitable position, while my idiot manager continued to display her intelligence and was transferred to the ass end of the company (literally -- assets disposal). The lesson they should have learned is that some parents should be considered more apt to be more motivated to be responsible to their employer, because it enables them to provide more stability to their family. Only an idiot would dismiss a qualified candidate for procreating. Besides, even if a manager decides to be a lazy chowderhead and stalk facebook profiles in place of doing actual management or HR profesional work such as following up on more substantial professional credentials and references, they should be more suspicious of the stability of a never married 30 or 40 something loner.

 

Maybe you missed my point, my problem is not with people who decide to procreate (seriously?). It's associating all of your personal information attached to your real name for any and everyone to see. I find it funny you would refer to an HR person researching an applicant on the web as a lazy move. In my position I'm selecting who I feel would be the best individual to fill the given position. If someone is stupid enough to throw their personal information out there, most the time those are little details I don't need to know, but if its out there and easily accessible I'm going to check. I don't blame you for thinking your manager was an idiot, anyone who has been let go from a position would probably think the same.

My retention statistics are great.

 

So you really believe that crap you wrote? Maybe you missed your own point, which was completeley the opposite of what you wrote previously.

Translation: I know and admit it's wrong, and prejudiced, but I do it anyway and express pleasure by gloating about the targets of my discrimination later on. It's all I have because as a manager I really know how weak and ineffective my decision making and analytical abilities are, so I take solice in misusing the power someone made the mistake of entrusting in me.

Were you also in the habit of dismissing employees who put their family portraits on display at their workstations too? A common practice before facebook and a very public telling of their family and marital status. Personally I'd be less inclined to want to work with someone who has a family and treats them as irrelevant but thats just me.

Yes stalking facebook profiles for personal details that you may choose to use as grounds for prejudice is a lazy move. Applications require resumes and references. If all of that checks out you do not need to know anything else, unless discrimination is part of your management model.

Also, as I said, I was not let go for long. My position was easily restored, because her decision, once exposed, was seen as an obvious mistake and she was seen for the imbecile she was. Not because of how she treated me, but because that treatment was part and parcel of her overall management style, which did not serve her well. Her talents, whatever they might have been, were put to better use in the deep recesses of a low-impact position in a supporting role in a back office.

A snotty nose that might inconvenience you. Is that all you see when someone shows pride in their child? And you would deprive a qualified candidate of their legal entitlement to access gainful employment so you can indulge yourself in your own special brand of insecurity? You're not only an idiot, you're also a rotten mean little cunt. Why dont you do the world a favor and fuck off and die under a bus wheel?

 

I feel for you Wha, and I am glad you have recovered well from this. But the underlined part demonstrates hypocrisy, doesn't it?
I could be lumped in with that category, and just because someone is single, it doesn't make them sinister. As well, so many `family men' are losers, and the only thing that they produce are more losers.
Stability based on some `gossip girl psychology makes me sick, This belongs in a judgmental bitch fest, and so many see things like this, or have this alienating belief.

 

Well apologies to you if my comments offended you that much, I was simply sharing my reasoning for disliking sites like facebook and how I (and many other) hiring representatives will perceive it. You can choose to ignore the FACT that if its out there, people will look. I'm sorry your personal experiences with your hiring manager were so awful and if she got re-assigned then she must of deserved it. My CEO is well aware of my actions and supports them, do we talking about them in front of others? Hell no. It's a closed door business meeting.

The company I work for provides daily care for developmentally disabled adults, from minor mental to profoundly mental retardation. The employees I hire are responsible for getting these individuals to their daily activities, take them out in the community, job programs if they have them, shopping, doctor's appointments, medical emergencies, diet restrictions, psychotropic medications and so on. All of this for a pretty low payrate (I spend lots of personal time fundraising and petitioning for more bonuses and higher payrates for them, unfortunately the state doesn't think they deserve that much). So...yes, I want to know everything I possibly can about these people before I trust them to take on the responsibilities of a human life, especially one who in most cases cannot speak for themselves or even know if they're being abused. If that makes me a cunt deserving to die beneath a buswheel, then so be it.

 

That newer and THIRD version of events doesn't villify you as much. Would be great if it were true. Here's why it isn't:

You talk about dedication to the responsibilities of a human life like that kind of thing matters to you. Then find humor and express zeal in dismissing a whole segment of humanity who exhibits those very qualities in their personal lives. Add to that your penchant for comparing notes at closed-door business meetings (aka "seminars and conventions"). Laughing about your callous use of prejudice and your diminished view of the time management and prioritization abilities of parents who can't juggle their career with their children's disruptive noses. Reads like some kind of tale of hatred, jealousy, and conquest.

That makes you part of a big problem. If you'd rather hire someone who hides his digital footprint over someone who openly displays his pride and dedication to his family, then you are what's wrong with the country today. If your boss supports your ethics and code of conduct, he/she's likely as broken and detached from humanity as you are. What other things are you willing to do that you're "not supposed to" for the sake of your CEO and her bottom line?

If decision makers like you are being handed the responsibility for caring for infirm and helpless members of society, well god help them and us all. Catch that bus and take that CEO with you.


"she must of deserved it" should be "she must HAVE deserved it"
A comon phoenetic mistake committed by people with literacy at or below grade 5 level

"do we talking about them in front of others?" should be "do we talk about them in front of others?"
Well aside from yukking it up at seminars and conventions (is that what we call 'closed-door business meetings' now?) your answer was "Hell no."

 

I certainly didn't mean to get you so fired up. The fact of the matter is this DOES happen, it happens all over the place. If you're applying for a job there is a very good chance your name and information will be searched. People can either take that info and think about it or continue to share their personal lives with the world. Is it the right thing to do? No, I know that, but the info is out there and we're going to look. Facebook isn't a poor tool, but their privacy settings are. IMO, use it if you enjoy it but make it available to only the people you want to connect with.

I know I'm not going to change your opinion and you're certainly not going to change mine nor is it going to change the way I select applicants.

 

who isnt

 

And there's the difference. I guess I'm one of those rare oddballs who would rather not sell out his integrity just to cling to some title by doing things "I know I'm not supposed to do". Nor do I need to express derision or derive pleasure at conventions and seminars over the amount of suffering I'm able to bring myself to deliberately cause for my own pathetic gratification, amusement, or surmised gain.

Again, that's just me. You live your life a different way on your own warped terms and seem to have the strength or will to look yourself in the mirror without retching. I suppose emotionally defective fuckwits like you posess an instinct for fulfilment too. Whether you get yours by achieving something of value to others or not is apparently irrelevant to you and I shouldn't be trying to convince you to deprive youself of enjoying whatever you think you may be accomplishing. Maybe some day you'll think about making a contribution to something other than your own frail ego.

 

just one question in the firing path of WhaWha and DigitalGirl:
Why does one's private life determine their ability to do a job when it's posted in a public place? How do you determine by pictures or Facebook profiles if the person is qualified to do the job you're looking to fill a position for? How do you discern, by a profile page or pictures, that the person you're looking at, is responsible or not, in a professional manner?
Last but not least, when hiring a person, is their private life more concern than the value they may have as an employee?


Ok, that was more than one question as to the OP...yes, as well as a Myspace page....