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Could not have put it any better myself

 

You know its funny... most of the instances that apply in my stories are younger boys/men being seduced by older women... Mostly because its popular. Its also interesting to try and get into that frame of mind. I don't obsess over it obviously if you look at my catalog. I abhor violence.

But let me think of writers who have used underage subjects in their works.

Gary Jennings.
Peirs Anthony.
L Ron Hubbard... I'm sure there are more in addition to the ones previously mentioned.

 

Having seen what happened to Hardrive, I also jumped to the conclusion that hitting the "report" button on the front page of the Sex Stories site results in the automatic removal of an anthology.

To, hopefully, prevent the same thing happening to me, I petitioned to have all my "offensive" stories removed. My thinking was that if I complied with the "rules" or "guidelines," and self-censored my own work, leaving nothing behind which contained a sexually active person under the age of eighteen, I may duck most of the current shitstorm. If someone ever formalizes an age limit, setting it as high as eighteen, I'll still be in compliance and will be allowed to go on my merry, perverted way. Hopefully, I'm right.

Considering the amount of ill-will and vendetta-talk around here, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if another writer ratted out Hardrive. It may have even been a writer who was jealous of his success and popularity as a writer. Who knows, the one doing the reporting may be the one true, real-life pedophile here. I can picture some bozo doing sort of a Dr. Strangelove thing, trying to peel his errant hand from his own cock instead of his throat.

The notice at the top of the main page of the Sex Stories site says the following: "From now on we will refuse and delete clearly pedophile stories. Note that they were allowed (but never welcome) because we didn't review or read any text. If you find one you can report it here. Make sure to add exact citations from it."

Note the last sentence. It seems to me that requiring "exact citations" should, in theory, prevent the willy-nilly deletion of stories reported just because someone pisses someone else off.

Those of us who have written underage stories, regardless of whether we think they are "worthy" or not, should follow the advice contained in Nophest's parting shot and, now, in the same announcement which contains the report button.

Argue all you like about what should and should not be allowed on a porn site. Start petitions if you must. Hopefully they will entertain you.

In the meantime, adapt. Do a little progeria on your characters. It won't hurt you. If you love reading and writing about sex, put some limitations on yourself. You still may be able to have some naughty good fun.

 

What they aught to do is assign some of us a peer review title before deleting random work... And have one or two of us read it and either say stay or go...

 

My two cents worth. Again.

The mention of Shakespeare was to illustrate that stories about young love have been done before. Hopefully, no one here has deluded themselves into thinking that their writings have the same genius, but the illustration is valid. People have been falling in love and fucking at an age not approved of by their societies and families ever since there were societies and families. If you accept that premise as true, then you may possibly understand why porn writers and readers would also delve into that area.

That doesn't mean you have to like it, and I'm not saying it's right. But it's true.

That stuff is no longer welcome here. It doesn't really matter why. It apparently doesn't matter whether that fact causes you to rejoice or cry.

It just is.

As a father and grandfather, the thought of sexual predators makes me physically ill. My daughter is now thirty-two, happily married, street-wise, and probably able to cause considerable pain to any man who would attack her and her children, considering what she does in the gym every day. Still, if I knew someone was stalking her or the kids, all the moral teachings of my upbringing would go right out the window. Hell, it was hard enough knowing that teenage boys her age looked at her in a sexual way when she was that age. (No, assholes, not because I was jealous. Get over yourselves. You won't pin that shit on me.) It was because she was my child, a life given to me to nurture and protect from harm.

No one has yet defined, to my knowledge, what the admins mean when they say "clearly pedophile" stories. Is Lolita a clearly pedophile story? Are some of Emerson's little tales that he has presented recently clearly pedophilic? I suppose that's a matter of interpretation.

I'm sure that a "clear pedophile," which to me means child abuser/molester, would enjoy some of the stories that are disappearing from the site. Of course, they enjoy hanging around near the sandbox in the park, too. Probably, some of these people have never been to this website. Some may not have internet access. Some may not even be able to read.

The ban, whether you like it or not, does remove some complicity in the minds of the site owners, sponsors, and watchdogs. It allows the rest of us pervs to play freely.

Just accept it.

 

Maybe.

Only if the person who gets the reports is willing to check the story to be sure that the quote was actually in that story.

I have a 25,000 word story that has no underage characters in it at all. What if someone reports it, a sock account, for example, and puts underage content as the reason and puts some fake quote in there? Do you think someone will sift through 25,000 words to see if the sentence or two is actually in there?

I hope so. But I wonder, since I don't know how the review process works.

Time will tell.

 

There's nothing, unfortunately, to prevent some mean-spirited sock/troll/scumbag from doing precisely that, I suppose. I never considered it. The deviousness of your mind is a little unsettling.

Maybe the smart thing to do is to download and backup all your work. Massage the stories as much as you like, clean them up to make them politically correct, and then save them as "The Story of XYZ, Reposted." If your shit gets pulled, you then can easily re-submit, or you can tell us all to take a flying fuck at the moon and post on one of the more "morally responsible" sites.

 

There's nothing, unfortunately, to prevent some mean-spirited sock/troll/scumbag from doing precisely that, I suppose. I never considered it. The deviousness of your mind is a little unsettling.

Maybe the smart thing to do is to download and backup all your work. Massage the stories as much as you like, clean them up to make them politically correct, and then save them as "The Story of XYZ, Reposted." If your shit gets pulled, you then can easily re-submit, or you can tell us all to take a flying fuck at the moon and post on one of the more "morally responsible" sites.

 

Damn Gateway 504 Time-out double posts!

 

That's where the "completely different time" part of my comment comes in. Back then, younger marriages were fairly common due to life expectancy being in the 30s, 40s at best. Today's advances in medicine have effectively doubled life expectancy from that time and there is no longer that "rush" to extend your family.

I would hope that whoever is doing the reviewing is smart enough to hit Ctrl+F on their keyboard when doing the reviews.

 

You're assuming that a live human is actually reviewing the reports to see if they're accurate and were sent by a responsible party. What if they just simply do a batch update that pulls all the links?

Besides, who is to say what is "clearly pedophile"? Look at some of the very short stories Emerson Laken-Palmer has posted recently. All those stories seem to contain dangerously young characters, pedo-bait, as you will, even the one that ends with the girl talking about her husband and kids (plural).

Pedophila, when it comes to censorship, is in the eye of the beholder. We don't really know how young a character is without some explicit details, like saying they are an armed forces veteran or a middle-school student, or without simply listing ages. Hell, look at some of the stories that were posted for one of the early CAW Challenges, the one requiring anonymity. It was against the theme of the Challenge to indicate the ages of the characters, so the reader really couldn't be sure if he was reading about people in their teens, or thirties, or sixties. I'm sure if one wanted to, one could decide that all those stories were about grown men and little girls.

 

Having a live human do it would be best. Just making a program to do it for them is careless and we wind up right back here again.

I have read some of what he's posted. It's my opinion that he is just trolling. A mod should step in soon and give him a warning at the very least. He's toeing a line that can get him banned if he crosses it. I know this isn't most sites, but I've seen several sites that won't tolerate that.

 

So your saying that if the setting were either before 20th century medicine or post apocalyptic, or in an area where such medicine is unavailable or a place where mortality is very high such as a war zone its okay? The Majority of writers here are writing about what if... Not putting the screws down on reality, its fantasy, its fiction... when we write fiction rules go out the window.

 

Is that what a writer....

Is that what a writer should do?
clean his story up?
make them politically correct?
make it palatable for the squeamish puritans that come to a porn site , read underage stories, then complain about it?
There are stories here seemingly about mythological creatures etc. I don't like them, so I don't read them.
I like reading coming of age stories.
The problem is that people confuse coming of age stories with pedo stories.
Great, my enjoyment curtailed by others stupidness.

 

Is that what a writer should do?
clean his story up?
make them politically correct?
make it palatable for the squeamish puritans that come to a porn site , read underage stories, then complain about it?
There are stories here seemingly about mythological creatures etc. I don't like them, so I don't read them.
I like reading coming of age stories.
The problem is that people confuse coming of age stories with pedo stories.
Great, my enjoyment curtailed by others stupidness.

 

Not unless you really want to. I don't.

 

Did you read Aftermath?...
Thats a happy coming of age story
That happens after an apocalypse

 

Here's a thought/question. When you go to post a story in Sex Stories, you add tags, or can add tags. The Teen tag is for someone who is 16-19.

What is the Young tag for?

Paraphrasing from My Cousin Vinny...

Writer: I used the Young tag so I'm a pedophile?
Cop: And then he said "I used the Young tag so I'm a pedophile."
Writer: I'm a pedophile?
Cop: And then he repeated "I'm a pedophile."

 

Wow.

I wish I had some of the time that some people here obviously do to simply waste striking deceased equines.

 

Sixteen is the limit, I wonder how many will have to be told that two eight year olds do not qualify.