It was only a matter of time - Global Warming is now passe'. We're back to predicting a new ice age. Now, if this were about science, within a year there would be trumpeting of the new consensus among "leading scientists." Of course that won't happen, because a cooling trend offers no opportunity for the left to tell the rest of us how we shoulld live our lives. I will bet that within a year, all those ninnies who wanted us to give up modernity to save the planet will be on to the next "proven fact" that allows them to feel good about themselves by denigrating anyone who doesn't buy their crap.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/ice_age/

 

Where do you go, prtndr, in between the times that you show up here and post your latest scoop about global warming? Are you off in a sweat lodge someplace, or on a vision quest?

 

OOOOOPPPPPPPSSSSS. Now they have a problem. Wait no problem they will still blame people for this and now we will all DIE like they said in the 70's of being cold and no heat and no food MY GOD how will we survive.


Do not worry the fucken progressives will continue on their merry way blaming people for warming cooling in-betweening, Th ass wipes of the un (useless nations) will put up some figures that they will never tell how they got them to show we must PAY through the ass and shut down any and all ways of making a living and putting tubes up our asses to catch the farts or what ever.

PROGRESSIVES COULD NOT SUCK MY DICK IN MACY'S WINDOW that is how much they suck.

 

Well damnit,, how can we keep up with all of these name changes that the government has stapled to their fosterchild,,'MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING''????

 

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Well that sure is what's making me laugh until it hurts. You take prtndr, Ace, Clarise et. al. and they'll tell you thousands of scientists all over the world who've been studying global warming/climate Change for decades are wrong and lying.

But you let one scientist speculate about another possibility and by God that ONE is preaching the true FACTS.

I'm going to link this one to prtndr's other thread just so I laugh again when I see it.l

Me, I'm going to watch this development and see if they're on to something but from what I've read it won't keep us from having to do something about human caused CO2 emissions, or that global warming has not really been occurring.

Remember when they were all claiming it was "INCREASED" solar activity"?

I guess prtndr is too fucking dumb to know when he's defeated his own previous arguments and just grabbed the next straw floating by because he's too fearful of being wrong to think logically.

But I have to admit this is interesting enough that I want to see what they've come up with. Prtndr's too ignorant to know that an announcement don't make it so and if its real science it will quickly be duplicated and peer reviewed and if its solid than those new figures will also be plugged into the same climate models they're already using.

The last I checked though solar activity (or according to prtndr's new source solar inactivity) has been included in the global warming models from the beginning which is why they could rule solar activity out as the cause of our current global warming/climate change.

But leave it to prtndr to deny what is happening now right before his very eyes for some contradiction he hopes will come true which will never make him less than a fool.

 

Yep, seems we have known since 2004 that this global warming is BS!


December 14, 2004
There is no scientific evidence to back claims of man-made global warming. Period. Anyone who tells you that scientific research shows warming trends--be they teachers, newscasters, Congressmen, Senators, Vice Presidents or Presidents--is wrong. In fact, scientific research through U.S. government satellite and balloon measurements shows that the temperature is actually cooling--very slightly--.037 degrees Celsius.
A little research into modern-day temperature trends bears this out. For example, in 1936 the Midwest of the United States experienced 49 consecutive days of temperatures over 90 degrees. There were another 49 consecutive days in 1955. But in1992 there was only one day over 90 degrees and, in 1997, only 5 days. Because of modern science and improved equipment, this "cooling" trend has been most accurately documented over the past 18 years. Ironically, that's the same period of time the hysteria has grown over dire warnings of "warming."
Changes in global temperatures are natural. In fact, much of the recent severe weather has been directly attributed to a natural phenomenon that occurs every so often called El Nino. It causes ocean temperatures to rise as tropical trade winds actually reverse for a time. The resulting temperature changes cause severe storms, flooding, and even drought on every continent on earth. It's completely natural. El Nino has been wreaking its havoc across the globe since long before man appeared.
How about the reports that the polar ice cap is melting? On Election Day the Financial Times of London carried the hysterical headline: Arctic Ice Cap Set to Disappear by the Year 2070. The article stated that the Arctic ice cap is melting at an unprecedented rate. The article is based on a report titled: Impacts of a Warming Arctic, submitted by a group of researchers called the Arctic Climate Impact Assessement (ACIA).
It must be understood just who makes up this so-called group of researchers. The report is not unbiased scientific data. Rather, it is propaganda from political groups who have an agenda. The report was commissioned by the Arctic Council, which is comprised of a consortium of radical envionmentalists from Canada, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Norway, Russia, Sweden, and the United States. All are nations that possess land within the Arctic Circle. Many of these countries, through the Kyoto Protocol, have a financial stake in pushing the global warming agenda. One of the groups providing “scientists” to the ACIA “researchers” is the World Wildlife Fund, one of the leading chicken-little scaremongers who create junk science at the drop of a news release to terrify us all into proper environmental conduct.
The report is now being used at the global warming meeting currently underway in Buenos Aires to rally the troops and bully the United States into accepting the discredited Kyoto Protocol.
We are being warned of killer heat waves, vast flooding, and the spread of tropical diseases. Ocean levels are rising and America's coastlines are doomed, they tell us. Hurricanes and tornadoes have already become more violent, we are warned. Floods and droughts have begun to ravage the nation, they cry.
Any change in temperatures, or an excessive storm, or extended flooding is looked upon as a sure sign that environmental Armageddon is upon us. Diabolical environmentalists are using the natural El Nino phenomenon to whip people into a Global Warming hysteria.
Two Kinds of Scientists

We are assured by such groups that scientists everywhere are sounding these warnings, and that we may only have one chance to stop it. Well, as the debate rages, we find that there are really two kinds of scientists.
There are those who look at facts and make their judgments based on what they see and know. Their findings can be matched by any other scientist, using the same data and set of circumstances to reach the same conclusions. It's a age-old practice called “peer review.” It's the only true science.
And then there are those who yearn for a certain outcome and set about creating the needed data to make it so. Usually you will find this group of scientists greatly dependent on grants supplied by those with a specific political agenda who demand desired outcomes for their money.
Let's just take NASA, for example--the most trusted name in American science. A lot of NASA scientists have fallen into the money trap. Environmental science has become the life-blood of the space program as the nation has lost interest in space travel. To keep the bucks coming, NASA has justified launches through the excuse of earth-directed environmental research. And the budgets keep coming. At the same time, many of NASA's scientists have a political agenda in great harmony with those who advocate global warming. And they're not above using their position to aid that agenda whenever the chance is available.
This was never more clearly demonstrated than in 1992 when a team of three NASA scientists were monitoring conditions over North America to determine if the ozone layer was in danger. Inconclusive data indicated that conditions might be right for ozone damage over North America--if certain things happened.
True scientists are a careful lot. They study, they wait, and many times they test again before drawing conclusions. Not so, the green zealot. Of this three-member NASA team, two could not be sure of what they had found and wanted to do more research. But one took the data and rushed to the microphones with all of the drama of a Hollywood movie and announced in hushed tones that NASA had discovered an ozone hole over North America.
Then Senator Al Gore rushed to the floor of the Senate with the news, and drove a stampede to immediately ban Freon--five years before Congress had intended--and without a suitable substitute. He then bullied President George H.W. Bush to sign the legislation by saying the ozone hole was over Kennebunkport, Maine--Bush's favorite vacation spot.
Two months later NASA announced--on the back pages of the newspapers--that further research had shown there was no such damage. But it was too late. The valuable comodity known as Freon was gone forever.
Flawed Computer Models

Then there are those computer models. Night after night Americans watch the local news as the weatherman predicts what kind of a day tomorrow will be. These meteorologists, using the most up-to-date equipment available, boldly give you the five-day forecast.
But it's well known that even with all of their research and expensive equipment it really is just a “best guess." There are just too many variables. If the wind picks up here, it could blow in a storm. If the temperature drops there, it could start to snow. The earth is a vast and wondrous place. Weather does what it wants.
Yet those who are promoting the global warming theory have the audacity to tell you they can forecast changes in the global climate decades into the future. The truth is computer models are able to include only two out of 14 components that make up the climate system. To include the third component would take a computer a thousand times faster than we have now. To go beyond the third component requires an increase in computer power that is so large only mathematicians can comprehend the numbers. Moreover, even if the computer power existed, scientists do not understand all the factors and the relationships between them that determine the global climate.
So it's an outrage for the World Wildlife Fund or the Sierra Club to tell you that man-made global warming is a fact and that we Americans must now suffer dire changes in our lifestyle to stop it.
Scientists are Not on the Global Warming Bandwagon

And so too is it an outrage for the news media to tell you that most true scientists now agree that man-made global warming is a fact. What it doesn't tell you is that roughly 500 scientists from around the world signed the Heidleburg Appeal in 1992, just prior to the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, expressing their doubts and begging the delegates not to bind the world to any dire treaties based on global warming. Today that figure has grown to over 4,000 scientists. Americans aren’t being told that a 1997 Gallop Poll of prominent North American climatologists showed that 83 percent of them disagreed with the man-made global warming theory.
And the deceit knows no bounds. The United Nations released a report at the end of 1996 saying global warming was a fact, yet before releasing the report, two key paragraphs were deleted from the final draft. Those two paragraphs, written by the scientists who did the actual scientific analysis, said:
1. "[N]one of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases."
2. "[N]o study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to…man-made causes."
Obviously, those two paragraphs aren’t consistant with the political agenda the UN is pushing. So, science be damned. Global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the people of the world--bar none.
The Kyoto Climate Control Protocol

Those who have been fighting against the radical green agenda have been warning that modern-day environmentalism has little to do with protecting the environment. Rather, it is a political movement led by those who seek to control the world economies, dictate development, and redistribute the world's wealth.
They use the philosophical base of Karl Marx, the tactics of the KGB, and the rhetoric of the Sierra Club. The American people have been assaulted from all directions by rabid environmentalists.
School children have been told that recycling is a matter of life and death. Businesses have been shut down. Valuable products like Freon have been removed from the market. Chemicals and pesticides that helped to make this nation the safest and healthiest in the world are targeted for extinction. Our entire nation is being restructured to fit the proper green mold. All of it for a lie about something man has nothing to do with.
But the lie has grown to massive proportions--and the game is about to get very serious indeed. Pressure is building again to impose the Kyoto Protocol worldwide. Only a few years ago, this treaty appeared dead when President George W. Bush refused American participation. Now, however, Russia has signed on and the UN has enough support to begin implementing its dire consequences--even on the United States. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has called the White House stance on global warming “terribly disappointing.” McCain is now using the ACIA report to convene hearings on the “human effect on climate and what to do about it.” McCain intends to help build pressure on the President to accept the Kyoto Protocol.
In fact the Kyoto Protocol is a legally binding international treaty through which industrial nations agree to cut back their energy emissions to 7 percent below 1990 levels. That means that all of the energy growth since 1990 would be rolled back, plus 7 percent more. Such a massive disruption in the American economy, particularly since it has nothing to do with protecting the environment, will devastate this nation.
To meet such drastically-reduced energy standards will--in the short run--cost the United States over one million jobs. Some estimate it will cost over seven million jobs in 14 years. If the treaty sends the economy into a tailspin, as many predict, it will cost even more jobs.
It will cost the average family $1,000 to $4,000 dollars per year in increased energy costs. The cost of food will skyrocket. It has been estimated that in order for the United States to meet such a goal, our gross domestic product will be reduced by $200 billion--annually.
To force down energy use, the Federal government will have to enforce a massive energy tax that will drive up the cost of heating your home by as much as 30 to 40 percent. In all likelihood there will be a tax on gasoline--as high as 60 cents per gallon. There will be consumption taxes and carbon taxes. The Department of Energy has estimated that electricity prices could rise 86 percent--and gasoline prices 53 percent.
The purpose of these punitive costs is to drive up the cost of modern living in order to force you to drastically change your lifestyle. That is the diabolical plan behind this restructuring scheme. Cars banned. Industry curtailed. Housing smaller. Family size controlled.
Every single product that is produced with the use of energy will increase in price. This includes items such as aspirin, contact lenses, and tooth paste. A study by the Department of Energy's Argonne Laboratory finds that the treaty will cripple six U.S. industries including paper, steel, petroleum refining, chemical manufacturing, aluminum, and cement. That about sums up the economy.
Global Raid on American Wealth

But perhaps you still are not convinced.Maybe you still cling to the idea that such drastic action is necessary--that those pushing the global warming agenda are truly in a panic over global warming and are just trying to find a solution.
If you are one of these people, ask yourself: Why does the Kyoto Protocol only bind developed nations to draconian emission levels?
Undeveloped Third-World nations will be free to produce whatever they want. These will include China, India, Brazil, and Mexico. Yet 82 percent of the projected emissions growth in future years will come from these countries.
Now ask yourself: If the Kyoto Climate Change Protocol is all about protecting the environment--then how come it doesn't cover everybody? The truth, of course, is that the treaty is really about redistribution of the wealth. The wealth of the United States is, and has always been, the target. The new scheme to grab the loot is through environmental scare tactics.
And international corporations, who owe allegiance to no nation, will bolt America and move their factories, lock, stock, and computer chip to those Third World countries where they will be free to carry on production. But that means the same emissions will be coming out of the jungles of South America instead of Chicago. So where is the protection of the environment? You see, it's not about that, is it?
Still not convinced? One more thing. Hidden in the small print of the treaty is a provision that calls for the "harmonizing of patent laws." Now, robbing a nation of its patent protection is an interesting tactic for protecting the environment, don't you think?
And there’s still more looting of the U.S. treasury planned. Supporters of the Kyoto Protocol also want industrialized nations to subsidize poor countries’ adaption to global warming to the tune of $73 billion per year. Obtaining such subsidies will be an interesting trick after the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the treaty. Looters rarely have the ability to think that far in advance.
Don’t think this devastation can’t happen. The UN and the European Union have exposed their hatred for the United States. They envy our wealth and think that legalized theft, rather than sound economic policy, is the way to obtain it.
The fact is that one person now stands between the global warming jackals and economic sanity--George W. Bush. Will he stand firm in his opposition to the Kyoto Protocol? Or will he capitulate to massive international pressure and sell America’s soul?
namedeweeseTom DeWeese is the publisher/editor of The DeWeese Report and president of the American Policy Center, a grassroots, activist think tank headquartered in Warrenton, Virginia. Its Internet site is www.americanpolicy.org. Tom can be reached at: letters@canadafreepress.com

 

Scientists have, of course, factored in known fluctuations in solar activity. As for the Maunder Minimum and the Little Ice Age, it's not at all clear that there's any correlation, much less a strong correlation. It's worth noting as well that the Little Ice Age was hardly a global phenomenon...it was pretty much confined to northern Europe, which is a bit hard to fathom if it was indeed caused by reduced sunspot activity.

But as you imply, prtndr and other deniers aren't interested in actually exploring the facts. They're interested in finding isolated nuggets that they think supports their cause, and then broadcasting them as loudly as possible.

 

Oh, please. Why don't you look up who leads this so-called "think tank", and where they're funding comes from...and then you'll have a pretty good idea where they're coming from.

 

I guess that could be said about both sides of this issue?

 

when it comes to global warming/cooling, the simple answer is: The environment does in fact change over time, but NOBODY has any fucking clue how or why. In my opinion, anyone who does claim to know how or why is a fucking idiot and should have the tongue cut out as punishment for polluting minds. Obviously this subject pisses me off, but what I don't understand is why people feel the need to claim they have answers? why can't people just admit they don't know whats going on?

 

So, you obviously haven't conversed with stumbler have you?

 

Ok I'm going to take this laughing stock both ways.

Here's prtndr's first thread trying to claim global warming/climate change was a hoax and belief was "rapidly cooling."

Note how not only prtndr but also the other global warming/climate change deniers get their heads repeatedly handed to them for repeatedly stating the same right wing noise machine false propaganda.

Never realizing they expose how brainwashed they actually are by claiming scientists don't know shit about earth's atmosphere and the effects the sun has on it on one hand and then coming back and claiming one scientist says the earth is cooling because of the sun on the other hand.

A direct contradiction can never make sense or at least has never proven to be.

https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=174275

 

Ok I was going to say something here but non-fuck you because if you'd even troubled yourself enough to look you'd know how full of shit you really are.

I get so tired of this institutionalized brainwashed bullshit I have to scream.

A fucking child could research this/.

 

Have you been around the world to see whats melting and whats not? have you ever read a history book? Did you know that contrary to popular belief not all glaciers are shrinking, but in fact some are still GROWING? Its a fact, research it. Also a fact, the men of science that give us all this information about global warming/cooling, in fact can not agree on what is actually happen. It depends on which group of scientist you want to believe as to what is happening with the global climate. Hence my conclusion that nobody knows what the fuck is going on.
I do not think anyone can argue that the climate is changing, but there is no proof that anyone has the answers, we do know that climate change is not new, its been going on since the beginning of time, our perspective has just changed in modern times as a result of science.

A sidenote: I think that the "institutionalized brainwashed bullshit" is what kids get taught in school, and most news networks and politicians speak as fact, which in their opinion is global warming. You shouldn't accuse free thinkers of being institutionalized and brainwashed. Good to meet you stumbler!

 

When I was in grade school in the early 1970's us school kids were scared to death of global cooling. Scientists had proven that the earth was cooling at an alarming rate and that if we didnt cut CO2 emissions dramaticly and soon we would be facing another ice age by the mid 21st century. My classmates and I had to sit through many film strips and films that told us the horrors of global cooling and how food supplies would be affected and we would all starve long befor being turned into ice cubes when the glaciers decended out of the north to cover everything north of the Amazon river.

As for global warming...I dont know and I frankly dont care. For every "fact" there is a counter fact that comes out at some point. For every study that has been done there are detractors claiming the process was flawed and the data are inaccurate or flawed. Until somebody credible comes up with something unbiased and genuinely scientific that can stand up to the deepest scrutiny I will be pefectly happy to sit back and eat my pasta and watch reruns of the Simpsons.


Here is a cute little video that quotes some of the articles of the time. The music isnt great but just hit mute and enjoy. This is what I had to deal with when I was a youngster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttLBqB0qDko

 

Bingo. Concur absolutely.

 

Ohhhh, bad move. Stumbler knows all, sees all. You have crossed the greatest expert on anything in all of XNXX. You're on his list now - prepare to pay the penalty.

 

RUH ROHHH,,another realist on board,,,,good job deepdiver24

 

The article is purely speculative. It made me think of a column by a right wing economist explaining how much economic growth would be generated by a flat tax or a national sales tax, when the only thing we know about either kind of tax is that it would cut taxes for the rich while raising them for everyone else.