You appear to claim anything and everything as an act of god, well is it an act of god that I am about to call someone a twat, pretty much a mean act for such an high thinking individual. Or is it that he ignores the small people and concentrates on the rich, powerful and famous.

Where was your god when three of my friends got blown to pieces on a cold and damp Belfast morning, where was you god then, was he cavorting with the famous, or was he sitting watching and saying it is all in his plan, it is all written.

You live in a fantasy, the simple explanation is that there is no god, good things happen to people and so do bad things, it is not written, it is not some wonderful ineffable plan.

You have one life don't waste it looking for effigies and gods.

 

Can't argue with that last sentence. Here's the standard cop-out:

And a poor cop-out, too. I'm sorry for your mates. Not their fight, etc. Hats off.

 

The same thing every time, just cheap words and poor philosophy, I asked a padre why, and he had no answer that would satisfy me, just cheap words and pass the plate for any coppers you have to spare. Keep religion I find it cheap and tawdry, I would rather spend Sunday in the arms of a prostitute than sully myself in a place of worship.

 

God's impenetrable mind is the theist's excuse for the cruelty of a world he cannot understand.

It's a cop-out, and it always will be - and it's insulting, too.

 

You mean, UNlike creationism. Creationism could never possibly be a theory; it couldn't even be a hypothesis, since it's devoid of logical content. It certainly fails to achieve the standard of evidence required before it can be called a theory.

 

You believe in a God who is so naive and stupid, He can be taken in by someone who only says they believe so that they can sin all they want and get away with it?


Not much of a God, is he? Most ten year olds are smarter than that.

 

Most catholics have it figured out, at least the clergy from curate all the way up to the Nazi pope, now that fucker has evil eyes, the sort who would throw another jew on the fire if his feet felt chilly.

 

oh yer a anti semight too! makes sense dumas!!!

 

Learn to read, and then learn to interpret what you read.

 

Seriously? You don't have him on ignore yet?

 

Fuck I am bored, and it is like kicking puppies, so wrong but deliciously nice, just ask M Saint, he knows.

 

The difference is that we can test it, come to new conclusions and reject old ones when we find a better explanation. This is a GOOD thing.

"belief" has nothing to do with it.

 

Anyway, Like I said before. I am not your typical christian. I dont go to church, I don t associate my any part of my personality with Christianity. However I do consider myself a christian as I do try to follow the teachings of Christ in my daily life. It is more of a lifestyle choice as someone would chose to be a vegetarian. It makes me feel good and that is enough reason for me.

As for the existence of god. I chose to believe in him as you chose not to believe in him. Neither of us can prove the other wrong so lets just agree to disagree.

I have posted this pic on another thread under a different context but I am willing to admit that it is a valid part of my spiritual reasoning. I just dont give a fuck what science or others say. Until somehow it is proven with no reasonable doubt.

 

Wrong. You choose to believe in him by ignoring logic; we choose not to by following logic. They are NOT identical choices.

 

LOL I try my best but like I have said I am not a strict christian and take the bible loosely. But the sins that I do have are of pleasure and do not harm others. (sex and drugs) I am not married. I don't think this will test god too much. Especialy as I am good natured toward people in my real life.

 

You are just using Pascal's Wager, and guess what, you lose.

 

I have said alot in this thread about the logic that I have followed to come to my own personal belief in Christianity.

I would be interested to hear what was the logic that you atheists followed to come to your own disbelief in god?

 

I questioned a priest on gods existence and got a slap around the head, it seemed to me that if that was his argument for god then there not being a god was a happier prospect. Nowhere is there any proof of the existence of any deity, and without proof it isn't so. All you can offer is faith and that is an empty bag.
When you can prove to me that go exists then I will admit I was wrong, till then I can live my life with the assurance that when I die that is it, no afterlife, no heaven or hell, nothing, not even a void I will just cease to be alive, my body will be burnt and the remains will rot, and I will just be a memory to my family and friends.

 

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Anybody heard of the trend on youtube where all these religious fanatics post videos stating that various musicians sold their souls to the devil to become rich and famous?

I mean they literally believe that Katy Perry & Kanye West literally sold their soul to the devil. Like it's an indisputable fact.

It's totally insane. :lol: