Let's Meet ALEC

stumbler · Sep 14, 2011

ace's n 8's said: ↑

That's absolutely fabulous...Keep up the good work fella,,keep me posted on the newest and latest assignments that ALEC is focusing on.

Oh shit,,hey stumbler,, I almost forgot,,,check this out;

http://web.gbtv.com/index.jsp
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Yeah you got me on that one. I was going to ask if anyone knew what Glenn Beck was doing now just wondering if anyone knew he had is own website.

Its pretty shaky though I think even with his friends at Fox trying to pimp for him. And yes I did laugh my ass off at his outrageous lies.

On Fox, Beck Claims "Somebody" Says His Prediction "Accuracy Rate" Is 92%

Of course, Beck has a long history of making failed, outrageous, and baseless predictions. Previously:
Glenn Beck's Top 5 Failed Predictions
Beck Predicts New Muslim Caliphate Will "Control The Mideast And Parts Of Europe"
Beck Predicts "Race Riots" In U.S., "Fueled By The Media And By Our Politicians"
Beck stokes fears about inflation: "On November 3, the Fed hits the Weimar moment"
Beck Predicts That We May Lose "Israel And ... The Free World" This Summer
Beck predicts Stewart and Colbert will "go the way of Oprah" because "the American people are done with it"
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109130011

PS And the fact that you're apparently the only one who knows what Beck is doing around here is not a good sign for his ratings Ace. Just sayin'.

Empress Lainie · Sep 14, 2011

Alec is my grandson but he is too young to be on this site. Sorry!

ace's n 8's · Sep 14, 2011

stumbler said: ↑

Yeah you got me on that one. I was going to ask if anyone knew what Glenn Beck was doing now just wondering if anyone knew he had is own website.

Its pretty shaky though I think even with his friends at Fox trying to pimp for him. And yes I did laugh my ass off at his outrageous lies.

On Fox, Beck Claims "Somebody" Says His Prediction "Accuracy Rate" Is 92%

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109130011

PS And the fact that you're apparently the only one who knows what Beck is doing around here is not a good sign for his ratings Ace. Just sayin'.
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stumbler · Sep 14, 2011

Ok so let's take a look at an ALEC political position and how that position is then translated to conservative/Republican/Tea Party dominated legislatures.

ALEC Approves a Resolution in Support of the Electoral College
Opposes National Popular Vote Legislation

http://www.alec.org/am/pdf/Electoral_College_PR.pdf

And now let's take a look at how that position actually plays out.

The GOP's Genius Plan to Beat Obama in 2012

Republican state legislators in Pennsylvania are pushing a scheme that, if GOPers in other states follow their lead, could cause President Barack Obama to lose the 2012 election—not because of the vote count, but because of new rules. That's not all: there's no legal way for Democrats to stop them.

The problem for Obama, and the opportunity for Republicans, is the electoral college. Every political junkie knows that the presidential election isn't a truly national contest; it's a state-by-state fight, and each state is worth a number of electoral votes equal to the size of the state's congressional delegation. (The District of Columbia also gets three votes.) There are 538 electoral votes up for grabs; win 270, and you're the president.

Here's the rub, though: Each state gets to determine how its electoral votes are allocated. Currently, 48 states and DC use a winner-take-all system in which the candidate who wins the popular vote in the state gets all of its electoral votes. Under the Republican plan—which has been endorsed by top Republicans in both houses of the state's legislature, as well as the governor, Tom Corbett—Pennsylvania would change from this system to one where each congressional district gets its own electoral vote. (Two electoral votes—one for each of the state's two senators—would go to the statewide winner.)
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http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/gop-electoral-college-plan-beat-obama-2012

Pretty slick and it might just work. But I'll just have to believe that it won't once people figure out how ALEC and the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers are trying to nullify their vote and simply dictate winners.

tenguy · Sep 14, 2011

stumbler said: ↑

Ok so let's take a look at an ALEC political position and how that position is then translated to conservative/Republican/Tea Party dominated legislatures.

ALEC Approves a Resolution in Support of the Electoral College
Opposes National Popular Vote Legislation

http://www.alec.org/am/pdf/Electoral_College_PR.pdf

And now let's take a look at how that position actually plays out.

The GOP's Genius Plan to Beat Obama in 2012

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/gop-electoral-college-plan-beat-obama-2012

Pretty slick and it might just work. But I'll just have to believe that it won't once people figure out how ALEC and the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers are trying to nullify their vote and simply dictate winners.

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How did ALEC approve anything?

But you do have to admit that ALEC is one smart fella.

stumbler · Sep 15, 2011

I just thought its significant that I don't think I'm the only one who wants to introduce the American Public to ALEC.

In his essay Goodbye To All That Mike Lofgren also introduces his readers to ALEC.

[1] I am not exaggerating for effect. A law passed in 2010 by the Arizona legislature mandating arrest and incarceration of suspected illegal aliens was actually drafted by the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative business front group that drafts "model" legislation on behalf of its corporate sponsors. The draft legislation in question was written for the private prison lobby, which sensed a growth opportunity in imprisoning more people.
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http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779#[1]

stumbler · Sep 20, 2011

Yeah, why didn't I think of that.

First you invent a private prison industry and pass lots of laws to get non-violent people thrown in prison for longer times. Better for business you know.

Then once you get enough of them in jail pass laws allowing businesses to use prison/slave labor to put even more Americans out of a job and increase profits.

That ALEC sure is a good group ain't they?

Conservative legislation mill a driving force behind private prisons

The private industry group ALEC, which creates form legislation that’s been copied and passed by Republicans in numerous states, has been a driving force behind the rise of the private prison industry in America.

This brief legislative analysis, by Main Street Insider, explains how that came to be and what ALEC’s legislation actually does.

This video is from Main Street Insider, published Sept. 19, 2011.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2...-mill-a-driving-force-behind-private-prisons/

stumbler · Sep 26, 2011

And how's the end result drafting model legislation to help the private prison industry working out?

U.S. Private Prison Population Grew 37 Percent Between 2002-2009 As Industry Lobbying Dollars Grew 165 Percent

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/26/328486/us-private-prison-population-lobbying/

tenguy · Sep 26, 2011

stumbler said: ↑

And how's the end result drafting model legislation to help the private prison industry working out?

U.S. Private Prison Population Grew 37 Percent Between 2002-2009 As Industry Lobbying Dollars Grew 165 Percent

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/26/328486/us-private-prison-population-lobbying/
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I guess that it being an idea whose time has come, is beyond your grasp.

stumbler · Oct 17, 2011

Hey what do you know ALEC has hands across the water and they apparently just got caught in the cookie jar.

As Scandal Engulfs American Legislative Exchange Council’s U.K. Affiliate, A Closer Look At Its US Operation

The Atlantic Bridge, the British affiliate organization to the American Legislative Exchange Council, is quickly erupting into a scandal that may force the public to scrutinize the practices of both right-wing groups. Earlier this month, the U.K.’s Charity Commission shut down Atlantic Bridge after an investigation revealed that the nonprofit has operated as little more than a front for various corporate lobbying and Tory party interests. The scandal has already forced the resignation of David Cameron’s Defense Secretary Liam Fox after the revelation that the Atlantic Bridge’s London-based director, Adam Werritty, had improperly acted as a high level advisor to Fox while employed by a number of military industry and lobbying clients.
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/17/345242/video-alec-exposed/

ace's n 8's · Oct 18, 2011

stumbler said: ↑

Hey what do you know ALEC has hands across the water and they apparently just got caught in the cookie jar.

As Scandal Engulfs American Legislative Exchange Council’s U.K. Affiliate, A Closer Look At Its US Operation

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/17/345242/video-alec-exposed/
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I can't see a problem here with ALEC, just with an affiliate of ALEC.

Like some say, Soros has nothing to do with Media Matters.

stumbler · Oct 19, 2011

ace's n 8's said: ↑

I can't see a problem here with ALEC, just with an affiliate of ALEC.

Like some say, Soros has nothing to do with Media Matters.
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By all means Ace you put up all the George Soros scandals you want. I'll look at all of them. But right now I'm more interested in the exposure ALEC is getting because they've now been outed and their impact on us is beginning to get a lot better known.

And I hope in my own small way I can do my part to help.

Just like this:

Corporate Front Group ALEC Pushing For Repeal Of Paid Sick Day Laws Nationwide

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/19/347793/alec-repeal-sick-days/

ace's n 8's · Oct 20, 2011

stumbler said: ↑

By all means Ace you put up all the George Soros scandals you want. I'll look at all of them. But right now I'm more interested in the exposure ALEC is getting because they've now been outed and their impact on us is beginning to get a lot better known.

And I hope in my own small way I can do my part to help.

Just like this:

Corporate Front Group ALEC Pushing For Repeal Of Paid Sick Day Laws Nationwide

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/19/347793/alec-repeal-sick-days/
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GOOD,,,I hope they succeed in the repeals,,I dont get any sick pay.

stumbler · Nov 9, 2011

Hey what do you know ALEC is getting better known all the time. And speaking of that it appears to be documentary time.

And for a couple of personal reasons this one is particularly sweet to me.

New Documentary Highlights Koch Influence on American Politics

Here's an interesting new documentary by Al Jazeera's Bob Abeshouse on the Kochtopus. There's nothing in it that hasn't been reported elsewhere, but it's quite a nice roundup of the different tentacles and how they influence politics. This comment by Jane Mayer leads it off:

"It was very hard to figure out -- in fact, impossible to figure out -- how much money they've spent on American politics. It was easily 100 million dollars since 1980."

The clause in the middle is highlighted because it truly is impossible to figure out. I believe the number is much, much higher than $100 million.

She's underestimating by a long shot. For example, this report published in April of this year by the Center for American Progress (PDF) shows about $75 million spent on the top 17 organizations. The entire list goes on for two columns across two pages. Still, I can attest to Mayer's' claim about the impossibility of knowing exactly how much. They give through donor-advised funds like Donors' Trust in order to disguise the source, and they aren't the only ones. It just happens that they're the front guys this time, just like Scaife was back in the Clintons' day.

Tim Phillips makes an appearance claiming that Americans for Prosperity is just fighting for the average middle class person. One of the more encouraging parts comes toward the middle when Abeston interviews Wisconsin families and union members just after Scott Walker introduced his union-busting bill.

It is remarkable to see any media actually reporting this, and it is certainly expected that US media companies would stay far back from it. Kudos to Al Jazeera for making it and showing it.
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http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/new-documentary-highlights-koch-influence-a

stumbler · Nov 9, 2011

ace's n 8's said: ↑

GOOD,,,I hope they succeed in the repeals,,I dont get any sick pay.
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Hey Ace; how's that Issue #2 going.

stumbler · Nov 9, 2011

This is an excellent article posted by Kimiko on another thread but think is important here because it shows how ALEC, major US Corporations like Koch Brothers Insdustries, and the Republican Governors Association poured millions of dollars into getting Scott Walker elected in Wisconsin and Ohio Governor John Kasich specifically to push the ALEC agenda which has now been soundly rejected in Ohio and may get Walker recalled in Wisconsin.

RGA and ALEC
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Kasich is an alumnus of ALEC, a group that brings together state legislators and corporate leaders from companies like Bayer, Pfizer, Wal-Mart, Exxon-Mobile and Koch Industries to draft model bills for state legislators seeking to advance a conservative, pro-business agenda. The Center for Media and Democracy recently exposed 800 ALEC model bills, revealing an effort to weaken unions, cut environmental regulations and privatize state services. Kasich and Republican legislators that supported Senate Bill 5 received $563,000 in campaign contributions from ALEC corporations in 2010, according to watchdog group Common Cause, but that number is much bigger when factoring in the RGA.
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http://www.truth-out.org/special-report-out-state-corporate-money-floods-ohio/1319551500

stumbler · Dec 6, 2011

You just gotta love that ALEC.

ALEC Deems Kids Eating Rat Poison An ‘Acceptable Risk’

As ThinkProgress has been reporting for some time, the corporate front group American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) has been colluding with the billionaire Koch brothers to privatize government and eliminate environmental regulations that interfere with profits.

GOP legislators in many states have given ALEC free reign to write anti-health care reform and anti-environment legislation. Now, ALEC is fighting to kill Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) rules limiting the sale of rat poisons that pose a serious health threat to children and the ecosystem.

A top representative for the ultra-conservative group said kids eating rat poison is an “acceptable risk” that does not justify government intervention:

“There are certain levels of acceptable risk in society,” says Todd M. Wynn, director of the ALEC Energy, Environment, and Agriculture Task Force, in an interview about the EPA rules with the Heartland Institute’s Heartlander website. “And parents play an important role by weighing the potential risks and benefits of using a product.”

“Unfortunately, EPA expands its reach into the American economy more and more each and every year,” Wynn said. “This year it will be d-Con, but next year another useful product will be burdened by additional regulations or banned outright from the market.” [...]

Aaron Colangelo, an attorney for the NRDC…told the Center for Media and Democracy that “there is not an undue economic burden associated with reformulating these products,” pointing out that the rest of the industry had complied with the new rules without adverse economic impact. Additionally, he said, “the health care costs for treating these kids certainly outweigh the economic costs of reformulation.”

Wynn’s startling admission illustrates the extent to which ALEC is willing to sacrifice the health of Americans to advance their radical agenda. For decades, at least 12,000-15,000 children a year have become ill after accidentally touching or ingesting rat poison that’s spread in pellet form. Poisoned children experience internal bleeding, bloody urine, bleeding gums, and blood coming from their ears. Poor and minority children are disproportionately affected.

Exposure often occurs in settings outside parents’ control, and giving companies the option of voluntary adopting changes has done nothing to help. After thirteen years of studies, hearings, reports and legal battles, “the EPA announced in 2008 rodenticide manufacturers would have three years to adopt limits on the sale of the products.”

For years, ALEC has successfully killed these kind of regulations on environmental toxins and pollutants on behalf of corporations. At their annual conference in New Orleans this year, ALEC distributed a pamphlet titled “The Many Benefits Of Atmospheric CO2 Enrichment,” complete with pictures depicting happy wildlife and a healthy environment. Companies like Koch Industries, BP, WalMart, and others join forces to fund this little-known organization that works behind the scenes to fight the dirty battles that no corporation would want to be publicly associated with.
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http://thinkprogress.org/health/201...ms-kids-eating-rat-poison-an-acceptable-risk/

stumbler · Dec 10, 2011

The Koch Brothers, ALEC and the Savage Assault on Democracy

Billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch finally got their way in 2011. After their decades of funding the American Legislative Exchange Council, the collaboration between multinational corporations and conservative state legislators, the project began finally to yield the intended result.

For the first time in decades, the United States saw a steady dismantling of the laws, regulations, programs and practices put in place to make real the promise of American democracy.

That is why, on Saturday, civil rights groups and their allies will rally outside the New York headquarters of the Koch brothers to begin a march for the renewal of voting rights in America.

For the Koch brothers and their kind, less democracy is better. They fund campaigns with millions of dollars in checks that have helped elect the likes of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker and Ohio Governor John Kasich. And ALEC has made it clear, through its ambitious “Public Safety and Elections Task Force,” that while it wants to dismantle any barriers to corporate cash and billionaire bucks’ influencing elections, it wants very much to erect barriers to the primary tool that Americans who are not CEOs have to influence the politics and the government of the nation: voting.
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http://www.thenation.com/blog/165077/koch-brothers-alec-and-savage-assault-democracy

stumbler · Jan 5, 2012

Little by little the light begins to shine.

Updated: January 4, 2012, 3:39PM

An investigation released this week says that Virginia lawmakers take a “disturbing” number of cues from a conservative group that pushes model bills on state legislatures nationwide.

The Virginia General Assembly introduced at least 50 bills since 2007 that appear to be near carbon copies of legislation first imagined by the American Legislative Exchange Council, more widely known as ALEC, the report found.

The investigation was paid for and released by ProgressVA, a liberal organization affiliated with the national advocacy group ProgressNow. The organization said the results demonstrate that ALEC holds a “disturbing level of influence” over Virginia’s elected officials.

The report also said taxpayers spent more than $230,000 to send state lawmakers to ALEC conferences, where they then met with corporate lobbyists behind closed doors. Of the bills apparently drafted by ALEC, three became law, the report said.

ProgressVA’s executive director Anna Scholl said her state is particularly vulnerable to the influence of a group like ALEC because the general assembly only meets for a short time each year. Legislative sessions last only 45 or 60 days a year, depending on whether a budget is in the works.

“There’s not an extensive amount of time for research,” Scholl told TPM. “One of the reasons that ALEC has been able to build so much influence here is that it’s an easy resource for legislators.”

The legislation, she said, is “just handed to them.”

Another reason, she said, is because the state’s Speaker of the House, Bill Howell, serves on ALEC’s board and was once its national chairman. Howell did not respond to a request for comment.

A spokeswoman for for the group hit back against ProgressVA on Wednesday, saying the organization’s views were “extreme” and often put it on the opposite side of ALEC.

“ALEC members share a common philosophy of limited government, free markets and federalism,” spokeswoman Kaitlyn Buss wrote in an email to TPM. “We understand that organizations like ProgressVA and its ally, People for the American Way, oppose these principles, and they are free to do so.”

ALEC has come under increased scrutiny in recent months after the Center for Media and Democracy published a leak of more than 800 model bills and resolutions crafted by the conservative organization.

Scholl said ProgressVA used that leak as the basis for its investigation. First, the group figured out which lawmakers had attended ALEC conferences and then compared bills those lawmakers sponsored to the leaked model bills.

Although ALEC is officially nonpartisan, most of its members are Republican because of its bent toward free-market and limited-government issues.

Scholl said ProgressVA was able to link a few of the state’s Democrats to the organization, but the lawmakers who were influenced most by ALEC were “overwhelmingly Republicans.”

Scholl said her group plans to watch for ALEC bills throughout this year’s legislative session, which convenes Jan. 11.
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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...l_of_influence_in_virginia.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

ace's n 8's · Jan 5, 2012

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Little by little the light begins to shine.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...l_of_influence_in_virginia.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
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WELL,,,HOT DAMN.............

You have no idea how happy I am about this new ''NEWS''....

I wonder who assisted on righting the Frank/Dodd bill and Obamacare..

I'll check.

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