Personally I don't think he even knows that much about the Affordable Care Act because it actually solves a lot of the problems he cries about. You see that a lot with the brainwashed folks that are just parroting right wing noise machine false propaganda about stuff they don't even know.

 

Clinton was a joke? Son, you really need to get your head out of your ass... and if he sucked so bad, tell me again how he managed a surplus after 12 years of Republicans dropping how many billions into debt?

Oh, yeah... I'm sure you're still trying to dig an answer out of that pile of shit in your boots. Or maybe you're just overflowing them and getting them all over. Stupid fake cowboy wannabe Texan bitch. Keep digging that same bullshit out over and over... as much as you savor all that shit you keep selling, did someone tell you it was caviar or something?

And I'm not from out of state, you dumbshit. I live in San Antonio and I'm from Big Spring. I didn't just move in a generation back like your carpetbagging group did. I got roots here, back to the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo.

So go circle jerk with the other conservatives and keep lying to yourself that your a 'real Texan'.

 

Let's take the immigration (notice how I didn't say illegal) problem. And to make it fun and to demonstrate that this is simply a conservative/Republican/Tea Party hot button issue currently playing on the right wing false propaganda machine I'll let CFH420 phrase it as an issue or promise President Obama has not kept.

Ok first let's address the out and out lies, such as the Obama Administration has not done anything to secure our borders. Because here's what they've done so far:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press...licy-A-Comprehensive-Response-and-Commitment/

And yes I do realize the White House is a liberal blogger but still the official word.

Ok so once we bury that lie let's look at the latest policy change that the right wing false propaganda machine is screaming there heads off about. And with very good reason because president Obama has out smarted the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers in congress and found a way around their obstructionism.

You see there are direct and indirect problems surrounding the undocumented worker problem. On the one hand they are demonized and perceived by the right wing noise machine as illegals that, commit terrible crimes, take our jobs, suck up our social services, and have the unmitigated gall to have children that are automatically then US citizens.

The reality is none of that is really true and the task of deporting people who have been here in some cases for decades and have families here, and are active productive citizens is not really possible. And much worse the pictures of crying and screaming women and children as armed US authorities begin to raid their houses is really, really bad press.

And the fact there is a direct, unresolved constitutional question is even worse because that's what deporting people who were born on US soil is; a glaring violation of the US Constitution.

So the only solutions of course are to pass some sweeping reforms to our immigration policies which are now much more further complicated and precious resources wasted by the Obama Administration having to fight against unconstitutional state laws.

But even though president Obama has actually been working on the immigration problem since he became president there is no possible way to get his reforms passed in congress. In fact immigration has been the one place the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers in congress has been most successful of totally obstructing.

Up until now that is.

And here's where the indirect problem comes in and that is immigration reform is not only a hot button issue for the conservative/Republican/Tea Party, its also very important to Hispanic and Latin American people who just happen to be one of the biggest minority voting blocks in the nation.

In fact just on a personal note I've always believed one of the reasons George W Bush got elected in the first place was because he could and did speak Spanish sometimes on the Campaign trail.

And the Hispanic vote was also a major factor in President Obama's victory and of course the conservative/Republican/Tea Party know if they can turn the Hispanic population against him it would mean his defeat. And because of their successful obstruction he was vulnerable there.



But not now because of something no true conservative could oppose or even argue with, in the name of smaller and more efficient government the Obama Administration has prioritized the deportation system to keep it from clogging up and better protect Americans from real criminals.

And here's not only all they had to do, its also why you should read liberal blogs occasionally because then you'd know what the Obama Administration is really doing. And I can illustrate that by posting a couple paragraphs out of order with highlights.

You can't argue with that Ace. That's just doing a better job with the resources Homeland Security is given in these very tough economic times. That's just smaller better government Ace that's costing less money.


But see if you can put yourself in the position of Hispanics or even children of undocumented workers who are citizens and many old enough to vote and see if you like anything you read in these two paragraphs?


(And I'll help you there too).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/..._930688.html#s332934&title=DREAM_Act_Students



Nope that's not the sweeping reforms Obama Promised which included the "Dream Act," but it is a giant leap in that direction and one the conservative/Republican/Tea Baggers in congress cannot block. Its a done deal. And I bet that makes lots and lots of people really happy with President Obama. And I'm one of them.


And PS Ace I noticed the other day that Rick Perry just agreed with President Obama's Dream Act in at least one respect and I bet he just gets hammered over it when President Obama wholeheartedly agrees that undocumented people who serve in the Military should be granted citizenship.

PPSS And I also meant to remind you of Rick Perry calling for the use of drones to help secure our borders and didn't even fucking know the Obama Administration is already using them and have been for quite sometime. Now that's another laugh.

 

Ok now let's try the disastrous unemployment report you posted.

So the first thing is if you feel comfortable quoting the World Socialist Website as a source I suppose that's ok but I sure have never found them to be about as reliable as Glenn Beck. And let me demonstrate that.

See those three simple words right there Ace? Those three words are true now but could not have been said from 2007 until November of 2010.

US loses 85,000 jobs, but hopes grow for future employment

December saw losses of 85,000 jobs, but Friday's labor report also showed a small employment gain in November, the first since the recession began in December 2007.


http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2...000-jobs-but-hopes-grow-for-future-employment


But your World Socialist website says now the "jobs growth" is so slow its actually disastrous and the unemployment rate is at 9.1%.

Now that is bad. But what about this headline Ace?

Unemployment rate falls to 8.8%, marking a two-year low


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/1/unemployment-rate-falls-88-two-year-low/

That was the case as early as just last March Ace. So what happened there? Why did it go back up? Not because of President Obama and the Democrats it was obviously and provably improving under their direction and control.

Nope that's the Tea Party Unemployment Rate which is probably going to go up even more thanks to the Tea Party Downgrade.

So I think if I was a Tea Party supporter and member I think I talk about something else than the economic damage the Tea Party has already done.

 

And Ya Know Ace ..............

........ I think this just about says it all.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/employee-productivity_n_935646.html

 

While we argue about the details (not that they are not important) we ignore the underlying cause of our economic problems.

Our country is run by the super rich for the super rich. They own the government and are running a circus to keep us distracted while they rape our economy.

I know that sounds radical but the truth is that they have caused our economic problems and they profit from our economic problems.

I have lived as a capitalist most of my life and politically I have been right of center... but it's time for a major change. We can no longer trust the capitalist to do what is best for the country. Nor can we trust our representative democracy to do what is best for the people. Our news media has sold out to special interest and we can not trust them to tell us what is really going on. In fact, we are being openly lied to by all the institutions that we depended upon.

I would compare our situation to a man on his deathbed who finds himself surrounded by his doctor, his lawyer, his business partner and his family. While they are all arguing the man looks under the covers and finds that he has a very aggressive parasite draining his life away. When he points this out to his doctor, the doctor warns that if he tries to remove the parasite it will kill him. The man's lawyer tells him that if he tries to change his doctor, change will kill him. His business partner tells him he should listen to his advisers. His family is arguing about the size of the room, the color of the walls and whose fault it was for hiring the doctor and the lawyer in the first place.

The dying man knows he has only two possible solutions. Lay there and let the parasite kill him or get rid of his doctor, lawyer and partner and tell his relatives to stop arguing and pull that dam parasite from his body.

The parasite knows that if the man gets the courage to ignore his advisers, it will loose its victim, so it increases the man's pain to increase his fear of making any changes. The advisers point out that the increase in pain is proof that the man is better off doing nothing.

The man is afraid but he has no faith in his advisers, since he knows that they are all profiting from his condition and will continue to profit while he remains in his condition. The man knows that removing the parasite might kill him but letting it continue to feed on him will kill him for sure so he insists that the parasite be removed no mater how much it hurts.

I am suggesting that we are in the same position as the man in my story. When we try to remove the special interest of the super rich from our government and economy, they will cause us as much pain as possible. The question is, will we have the courage and wisdom to stop arguing with each other about the details of our illness and attack the true cause of our problems before it sucks us dry?

The "It" is Predatory Capitalism as practised by our banks, Wall Street, insurance companies and other financial institutions.... and their partners and co-conspirators. If we are going to fight these giants, we have to stop fighting each other and take a broader view.

HD

 

I think this is well written and a very good analysis, especially the Predatory Capitalism part because that's what I've actually seen happening since the election of Ronald Reagan. The richest and most powerful in our country are not willing to wait for profits or take any real risks. So while they scream free market capitalism, and non-government interference that's just one of the many lies of conservatism.

Its really quite simple. The only way the rich can continue to get richer is to rig the game in such a way that gives them all the advantages and then make everyone else poorer.

And thinking individuals should be able to see that by just recognizing their secret code word for "rip off" which is "bubble" just like the dot com "bubble" and most recently the "housing bubble." Which is a really good description because after the wealthiest individuals and corporations get our government to rig the rules in their favor and eliminate any safeguarding regulations they begin to poor money into one segment of the economy. And as that segment of the economy begins to take off everyone wants to get in on what looks like a really good deal which then inflates that segment of the economy many times beyond its actual value. Then when the rich and corporations pull their money and profits out the "bubble" collapses and then what ever segment of the economy it happens to be runs to the government to get bailed out.

That is the lie of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation. The lies spread to brainwashed parrots that can actually stand right here and watch the parasites not only need $18.2 TRILLION to bail out their last greed and corruption and yet believe that the parasites are the minorities, the poor, the elderly.

Not the people who sucked up $18.2 TRILLION, caused a global financial collapse, and the US Great Recession and got to keep their bonuses and tax cuts.

The utter stupidity of that just somewhat staggers me from time to time because its right before their eyes.

 

GALLUP POLL= 42%






There it is stumbler, 6:46 P.M EST.........
If it changes by 8:00 P.M. EST,,I'll be making another post about it.

 

Wealth, Income, and Power

Stumbler, I basically agree with you but please allow me to rephrase some of your comments so they are more in line with what I am trying to say.

First I would like to remove any comments that will create a hostile response from those people you want to convince... so no name calling or making reference to other peoples intellect. Also, I've removed political comments that blames parties or groups. Both political parties are responsible for our current situation. We need to unit if we are going to fight our common enemies and retake our government. I think we are all interested in fixing the problems so let us enter into a dialogue and not an argument.


Re: Hardrive's post and what Stumbler agrees with: "I think this is well written and a very good analysis, especially the Predatory Capitalism part because that's what I've actually seen happening ..."

Re: Stumbler's post and what I agree with: "The way the rich can continue to get richer is to rig the game in such a way that gives them all the advantages and then make themselves richer while making everyone else poorer."

... after the wealthiest individuals and corporations get our government to rig the rules in their favor and eliminate any safeguarding regulations they begin to pour money into one segment of the economy. And as that segment of the economy begins to take off everyone wants to get in on what looks like a really good deal which then inflates that segment of the economy many times beyond its actual value. Then when the rich and corporations pull their money and profits out the "bubble" collapses and then what ever segment of the economy it happens to be runs to the government to get bailed out. (Banks, Wall Street and Insurance Companies.)... and then the rich buy the fallen stocks at bargain prices and get even richer when the companies recover.

I agree that there are far too many brainwashed parrots who believe that the greedy parasites in our country are the poor, the minorities and the elderly who; for the most part have been put in the possition they are in by the predatory tactics of the super rich. While I agree that there are some citizens that take advantage of government programs designed to help the needy... they are relatively few. Most of the needy are truly needy.

The true greedy parasites are the super rich, who have more money then they can possibly spend in a hundred thousand lifetimes but continue to swindle the economy out of trillions and then ask for more Trillions from the taxpayers to bail them out. That is the real definition of GREEDY PARASITE.... and that is why our economy is in crisis.

To get a better undersatnding of our problem please look at the following.

Wealth, Income, and Power

by G. William Domhoff

September 2005 (updated July 2011)


Wealth Distribution in the United States, is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2007, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.6% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth (total net worth minus the value of one's home), the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 42.7%.

This document focuses on the "Top 1%" as a whole because that's been the traditional cut-off point for "the top" in academic studies, But it is also important to realize that the lower half of that top 1% has far less than those in the top half; in fact, both wealth and income are super-concentrated in the top 0.1%, which is just one in a thousand. Edward Wolff, the economist we draw upon the most in this document, concludes that there has been an "astounding" 36.1% drop in the wealth (marketable assets) of the median household since the peak of the housing bubble in 2007. By contrast, the wealth of the top 1% of households dropped by far less: just 11.1%. So as of April 2010, it looks like the wealth distribution is even more unequal than it was in 2007.

If you want to see the full article and see how the rich keep getting richer and more powerful... click the link below.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

HD

 

Took a hurricane to end it.

 

Now, just a second here Ace as you'll notice the highlighted part below we agreed to use Rasmussen total approve and total disapprove. And lucky we did too because if we use the "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove'" figures you put up President gained five points between Monday and Friday at 8 pm.

However, in the total approve and total disapprove President Obama was at 44% on Monday and had only made it back to 43% by Friday at 8 pm.

So yes Ace I was wrong about that.

I missed it by about 12 hours. Because by about 8 a.m this morning President Obama had gained another two points and was back to a 45% approval rating.:excited:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...a_administration/obama_approval_index_history

So you win the first bet.

Ok and the second bet is President Obama's approval rating will be falling again in another three weeks. Same terms Rasmussen total approve and total disapprove.

 

http://www.usnews.com/mobile/blogs/.../8/26/elitist-vacation-spot-hurts-obama-.html

says basically he sucks ass and the people are pissed at him for going on vacation. his report card grade: D+

 

Every working person deserves a vacation.

 

And the Obama's even had to cut their vacation short due to the Hurricane. Plus it wasn't like when Reagan went on vacation and actually stopped being briefed. President Obama had to deal with some development or crisis every day.

 

Hey Ace according to your strongly approve or strongly disapprove Rasmussen rating President Obama gained another three points last night and 9 points during week.

And was it you or someone else that was claiming not long ago that President Obama hasn't submitted a budget for two years?

Anyway who ever it was you guys need to stop telling that lie too.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/aug/05/buddy-roemer/obama-submitted-budgets/

 

Presidential vacations: How does Obama compare?

I guess it is necessary for me to post this again. It gets tiresome to have to stand in front of fools, slamming facts into their faces with a sledge hammer, but someone has to do it.

Another fact that will not fit into anotheruser1's uncultivated, narrow mind is that when Ronald Reagan had been in office an equal number of months, the unemployment rate was 9.5 percent. That, anotheruser1, is 0.4 percent higher than it is now.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

 

i really don't give a fuck, i don't. take your leftist bullshit and cram it in your super sized ass

 

Sic—generally inside square brackets, [sic], and occasionally parentheses, (sic)—when added just after a quote or reprinted text, indicates the passage appears exactly as in the original source...A bracketed sic may also be used as a form of ridicule or as a humorous comment, typically by drawing attention to the original writer's mistakes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic

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anotheruser1 claims to be 34 years old. He behaves as though he is twenty years younger. I wonder if he is old enough to post here.

 

its sad that taxpayers are paying your stupid queer ass to lay around and attempt to make people think you are smart, your not. the best thing you could do is get back to your farm animals and leave the conversation to the real adults