If this is the case then why are the democrats not pursuing a flat tax rate and removing all deductions? Then EVERYONE could pay the same tax rate and all loopholes would vanish. The most likely answer is to continue making those that have worked hard to succeed look like the enemy to those that have not had the same drive or luck in their lives. (It really takes both honestly)

I for one would be happy to pay more in taxes as long as my rate is the same as those making more or less than me and that the government also makes sacrifices and reduces spending by quite a bit.

 

Because the progressive tax has always served this country well. Or at least until President Bush cut taxes, started two wars, kept the cost of them off the federal budget, and doubled the national debt by adding $5 Trillion to it and leaving President Obama with a $1.3 trillion budget deficit.

And also because while most our wages have stayed stagnant the wages for the top 5% have increased about 400%.

Also like Elizabeth Warren said:

Elizabeth Warren: "There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own"

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20110042-503544.html

 

That comment is more intelligent than 73 percent of your comments.

 

That is because it is not progressive enough. When it fluctuated between 94 to 70 percent the national debt was paid down. It was only when Reagan cut taxes for the rich that the national debt started rising.

 

Do you pay federal income taxes?

 

DL,,,DL,,, answer please?

 

Only because Bush cut taxes when we could not afford it and we actually started borrowing money to pay for those tax cuts ten years ago.

That right there is proof positive of the lie of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation.

You know its true. But its Ok if a conservative doubles the national debt by adding $5 Trillion to it.

Its only something to be hysterical about when a Democrat is president.

Plus the Constitution of the United States of America and the federal government that enforces it. Without those, as history has proven, we would have no commerce because of greed and corruption.

But Warren's other points are also true. No one got wealthy just by the things you mention alone Ace. Our government helped them every step of the way.

However, just like deficits and national debts, its only welfare to poor people you object to. But never object to corporate welfare. Or millionaires paying lower taxes than the people who work for them.

Show me some of them Ace. Because I like having safe food and water and medicines. I'm real fond of clean air. So which regulations are you talking about.

But lets not forget the last time the conservative/Repubican/Tea Baggers were in power the regulations they eliminated allowed the bankers, insurers, and stock brokers rip the world economy off for $18 Trillion and caused the US Great Recession.

And now you think we can afford to cut some more?

Give me some examples of those too will you Ace? I'd really like to see some examples of socialism promoting regulations.

Nobody, least of which President Obama, is asking anyone to give up their wealth. He's asking that everyone pay their fair share which the top 5% have been ducking out on for more than 10 years.

That seems fair to me. But not to someone who gets brainwashed by Fox News which is actively spreading the false claim (in fact debunked right here on our own little forum) that the rich are paying their fair share.

 

So by this logic, tax rates going down is the sole cause of the national debt raising? Oh come on! Tax receivables were higher durning the Bush administration than in most of Clinton's. Business spending was way up from where it is now. also there can't be a dept without spending more than you take in. The overspending during bush and multiplied under Obama is insane. Cut spending first, show you can responsibly spend money and then you can look at raising taxes.

Secondly, you honestly think it is far for the government to take 94% of a person's income!?!?!?

 

Sorry man, the only thing that you have done here, is supply me with the leftists empty rhetoric..This is all the leftists talking points and leftists lies that are told on the campaign trail.

 

I gonna have to call a bullshit and your bluff on that one Ace.

If those are lies then you should have no trouble what so ever posting them and proving them to be just that.

But since you can't we both know you're only bullshitting about that.

 

This was so fucking hilarious I had to search this thread to post it.

But just to show you what a joke Fox News is the editors of Guns and Patriots came up with a completely bogus claim that the government had backed another loan for SunPower and tried to compare it to Solyndra.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/10/14/343746/sunpower-fake-scandal-fox-news/


I'll tell ya the Fox Misinformed supporters really crack me up to defend brainwashing amateurs like Fox because it tells them what they want to hear.:excited:

 

Your libtard blogs are anything but a reliable unbiased source of information.

Do you ever post ANYTHING credible?

 

ty.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46761

Quite a story,,you might want to read it,, rather than that other shit for brains media sources that you tend to advocate and use.

 

Ace you poor gullible fool. All you did is re-post the same false story that Fox News ran with.

There is no federal loan to SunPower. Its hoax. Its all made up. And Fox News, you and your blogger have all fallen for a bullshit tale. How embarrassing is that?

 

And here's a little clip of President Obama dismissing Fox Correspondent Ed Henry during a press conference yesterday even after giving him the opportunity to ask the first question while President Obama and South Korean President Lee Myung-Bak during a visit to a GM plant.

I happened to catch it live and could not help but laugh out loud.

Here's Henry's question:

"what specific steps will you take to hold Iran accountable? Especially when Mitt Romney charged last week, quote, 'If you do not want America to be the strongest nation on Earth, I am not your President. You have that president today.'"

And here's president Obama's response:

"Well I did not know you were the spokesman for Romney," and smiled down at Henry.

And the press corp laughed.

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/ed-henry-earning-his-fox-news-stripes-u

For me it was just another one of those laughable Fox moments when they are so blatantly campaigning for Mitt Romney only willing fools could overlook it.:excited:

 

It seems to me that the monies are already allocated to this 'green jobs' platform the the left is so envious of.

 

Just to make sure that no one else falls for the bullshit story about SunPower and the loan that does not exist here's a story in great detail about what's really going on and all the idiotic things Fox News Reported without even checking their sources.

http://www.grist.org/solar-power/2011-10-14-move-over-solyndra-theres-a-new-fake-solar-scandal

 

Why do you say "left" Ace? It was the conservative/Republicans who controlled both houses of congress and the Presidency in 2005 when the Title XVII of the 2005 Energy Policy Act established these DOE Loans.

https://lpo.energy.gov/?page_id=368

 

YEAH,,, the President of the United States showing the upmost admirable respect for the people that live in this nation.. What a show of fucking disgrace, displayed by the president, and you wonder why I dont respect him..

It was all good when Eddie worked for CNN..