I'm not arguing your point about The Bell Curve, since everyone except DL knows it's nonsense...

But if you think the Japanese have a corner on the barbarism market during wartime, you haven't read your history.

 

Perhaps he should read The Trail of Tears.

 

Or perhaps an account of the Sand Creek Massacre. Or My Lai. Or....well, the list is endless.

 

Honest Japanese Return $78 Million in Cash Found in Quake Rubble

How many times since you declined to participate in this thread have you participated?

Cruelty during wartime does not prove that a nation is inferior. Winning indicates superiority. During the Second World War Germany came close to conquering the mainland of Europe. Japan came close to conquering China and much else of Asia. That would not have nearly happened if both nations had lower average IQs.

Since the Second World War Germany and Japan have had low crime rates. During the recent tsunami in Japan there was no rioting among the Japanese. After the tsunami Japanese turned in to the police containers of large sums of cash that they found.

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By AKIKO FUJITA (@akikofujita)
TOKYO Aug. 17, 2011
The earthquake and tsunami that walloped Japan left much of its coastline ravaged, but left one thing intact: the Japanese reputation for honesty.

In the five months since the disaster struck, people have turned in thousands of wallets found in the debris, containing $48 million in cash.
http://abcnews.go.com/International...78-million-cash-found-quake/story?id=14322940

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By contrast, during and after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans in 2005 there was widespread rioting and looting by blacks. That is the way blacks often behave when white supervision breaks down. No, it is not the fault of whites that blacks behave that way. It is the fault of whites that they are frequently allowed to behave that way.

 

And how come Stalin and the Russians seem to get a free pass on atrocities? Hitler was estimated to have killed 6 million. Staling was estimated to have killed 25 million.

Also there was an estimated 2 million women systematically raped by the Russian army when they tool Berlin. It always amazes me how much one group or one race has to ignore in order to accuse another race of being barbaric.

 

The ability to engage in organized, systematic cruelty indicates superior intelligence. The Holocaust and the Negro slave trade were evil. Nevertheless, they required intelligent planning and management.

 

Gee, perhaps we're dealing with human traits, here...not racial traits.

 

That's what I'm thinking since it happens in all groups races and religions. And always has.

 

Then Hitler and Stalin were the smartest of all...but does that mean that Germans and Russians are ALL smart?

This gets more ridiculous with every post. And it started out pretty ridiculous.

 

Dear God. Lower intelligence is an indicator of increased violence if one is discussing Blacks. The ability to engage in organized cruelty however indicates superior intelligence.

So, when Japanese forces systematically brutalized populations in ways that made no military sense, over more than a decade, they were obviously intelligent..When black crime rates are higher than white rates, that's cause them niggers is stupid.

The holocaust was the result of superior German planning and intelligence. When darkies are doing the killing it's because they're biologically inferior..

Them darkies who confounded whitey and out flew, out fought, and out maneuvered him were oddities, but cause whitey never actually came out and said "them niggers is bettern us red necks" DL ignores their accomplishments. He won't even look at the references, cause you know, he doesn't have to.

It isn't even fun debating DL anymore. It's just sad.

 

Maybe for you but I loved the way you just pointed out DL's obvious contradictions. They are undeniable for anyone who has been following this thread. And contradictions defy both science and truth.

 

Dear me, it has gotten so bad that I am quoting myself.

For some reason I doubt, after our many back and forths, that you suddenly missed me. I don't mean to be a harangue, but if you cannot answer the two simple points put forward, you cannot justify a continued belief in your theory. In response to that are you going to simply ignore it and push on, in what you must now know is a fallacy? I admire the commitment, though the action of blatant denial seems a bit silly. It seems to me that you are only giving credence to those parties who call you a racist, as someone believing for purely objective reasons would have no reason to ignore anything.

 

Well said could not have worded it better ourselves.

Now we wait with bated breath to see if DL can conjure up a response, or he declines because he thinks you're being childish, so this warrents NO response.

 

I am not sure if you have not noticed but DL ignores anything he cannot answer, if you tackle him about it he will say your questions are childish and warrant no response.

 

I am still waiting for you to provide evidence that the Tuskegee Airmen outperformed similar white units. Because your whole case against The Bell Curve depends on the performance of the Tuskegee Airmen, debating you is neither fun nor sad, just boring.

Blacks have high rates of violent street crime: mugging, armed robbery, stuff like that. This requires little or nothing in the way of intelligence or organization.

A number of years ago I read of a computer hacker in Moscow who while in Moscow broke into the computer systems of several banks in Western Europe, and created fictitious bank accounts. He arranged for several people to go to the banks, and withdraw money from the accounts. Fortunately, his scheme was detected. When the people showed up to withdraw the money they were arrested. Soon later, so was he.

A crime like that requires an enormous amount of intelligence. That is not the kind of crime one associates with blacks.

The hacker was named Levitt, so I assume he was Jewish, although I hope not a devout Jew.

 

What I try to ignore is the insults that are thrown at me by those who cannot argue rationally.

Those who argue that blacks are genetically equivalent to whites need to explain the absence of evidence for this equivalence. It will not do to point to exceptional individuals. We need to discuss averages.

 

Again you evade the question.

 

Aren't people looking for a high window to leap out of yet, this is never going to be resolved nor are the questions ever going to be answered..

It is going almost precisely as expected..added to which, the OP has vanished which comes as no great surprise after he/she got mauled by some of the more academic postee's..

Bugger the wretched Bell Curve..sounds like a thoroughly devisive and nasty publication, garuanteed to stir up trouble and ill feeling; like the world doesn't have enough misery.

 

And don't forget scientifically discredited and rejected. Those are the most important things to know about the Bell Curve.

 

Thank you Stumbler (we haven't had the pleasure of meeting up till now ) But I go along with what you added to my rather ill educated response posted more out of desperation.

Sadly Christopher Hitchens died recently, he would have made light work of this.