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  1. shootersa

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    Now, ya see, we can agree on something. Your efforts to support the Bell Curve Thingy sound as hollow and nonsensical as you view arguments to refute it.

    Here's the thing. I went to school with a LOT of minorities. Hell, I was a minority there were so many. I saw blacks for the first time in an environment where learning was expected and they were encouraged. And they responded. Many blacks I was in school with went to college, they were active in school activities, and they were not prone to violence.
    I went to college in a metropolitan environment, where a lot of minorities were in school to learn and develop meaningful careers.
    And I was a cop in a working class city. Payday Friday was a busy night. I saw minorities committing crimes. I saw whites committing crimes. I never attributed any of it to race, or genetics. I attributed it to how they were raised, how they fit into life, and how they viewed the world. That isn't scientific, but my view is race plays no role in violence or intelligence. If it does somehow, I know it can be overcome. You know, like bad eyesight can be fixed with glasses, or diabetes can be fixed with insulin and diet.

    I'm sorry you never read the Bell Curve Thingy before you become such a rabid advocate.

    I'm more sorry you are incapable of objectively evaluating the arguments detailed here.
     
  2. Distant Lover

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    If what you say is true and typical why is is that although Washington, DC has one of the most expensive public school systems in the country, hardly any white liberals let their children go to school in it? There are plenty of white liberals in Washington, DC. When they have children they either move to a white suburb, or send their children to private school.
     
  3. Distant Lover

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    School Safety in Washington, D.C.: New Data for the 2007-2008 School Year

    Statistics show that the D.C. public school system is one of the most dangerous in the country...

    Public Schools. During the 2007- 2008 school year, 3,500 incidences of crime were reported to the Metropolitan Police Department from D.C. public schools: 912 incidences of violent crime, 1,338 incidences of property crimes, and 1,250 other incidences. These incidents occurred during all days and times during the school year. (See Table 1.)

    The 912 violent incidents (1.9 violent incidents per 100 students) included one homicide.[20]...

    Private Schools. During the 2007-2008 school year, 232 incidences of crime were reported to 911 from D.C. private schools. (See Table 3.) These included:

    28 violent incidents (0.16 per 100 students);
    http://www.heritage.org/research/re...ton-dc-new-data-for-the-2007-2008-school-year

    Notice that there are 11.8 times as many violent incidents per 100 students in the public schools as in the private schools. Why do you think this is?

    There are 46,191 students in the District’s public schools, with about 79% African American, 12% Hispanic, 7% white and 2% self-declared “other.”
    http://diversityischaos.blogspot.com/2011/12/washington-dc-public-schools-have.html

    In 2006 - 2007 Washington, DC had the third most expensive public school system in the United States.

    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-new-york-schools-spend-most-money-per-pupil/
     
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  4. clarise

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    No, he is not. He is wrong on all counts. Racial bias, in reverse, fueled by common prejudices.

    It costs a small fortune to legally adopt, irrespective of the race of the child.

    And for anyone to suggest that black children are so common and so worthless as to be free for the taking is an insult not only to the orphans, but also to their adoptive parents.

    This thread is just bringing out the best in everyone, yes?
     
  5. grimmtea

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    Speaking as though you've made a great argument, is not quite the same as making one. I gave you two very simple points upon which your precious theory either stands or falls, and you were entirely incapable of answering either of them. And when pushed, you simply ignored them all together.

    Your denial is strong, and I'm sure you have your reasons, as everyone does. But it is probably best to leave off with the constant self-applause, as it simply makes you look more desperate. Patting yourself on the back for a good argument one moment, and ducking a question the next? I've never found that to be the action of terribly rational man.

    I do indeed feel that violent wind you are trying to warn us about; and it feels suspiciously like hot air.
     
  6. Kimiko

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    Stumbler may have been guilty of hyperbole in the reference to "free", but he's correct that there's a bias against the adoption of African-American babies. That's not an insult to orphans...it's a statement of fact about the bias of couples seeking to adopt.

    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/25/black-babies-boys-less-likely-to-be-adopted/
     
  7. chris4sylvia

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    What about the White Republicans, or the White Democrats..

    Why does every thing have to revolve around the Liberals..

    You have ONLY cited 1 school in 1 city, WHAT about the others???

    Have you found that article yet, on your Moscow hacker??
    Because it would be interesting to see if the posted information is correct and, there is indeed a group of people who were specifially trained in computer hacking skills...
     
  8. chris4sylvia

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    Under the same umbrella, it is hilarious watching you IGNORE relevant points that would seriously weaken your stance on the Bell Curve..

    You have been asked to provide a more recent survey, than the 1995 table of statistics which you quoted, and YOU have IGNORED this point..

    You TOTALLY IGNORE any idea which shows that social, educational and geographical factors HAVE to be considered when discussing the difference between racial test results. Even sources that would welcome the Bell Curve findings have ADMITTED that these factors have to be taken into account..

    The Bell Curve is just a series of theories and un-proven ideas which, in a perfect world, would answer many questions. But as we DO NOT live in a perfect world, these theories and ideas need more investigation..
     
  9. Arvin

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    :eek: Can't believe this shit is still debated.

    First - IQ is not a biological category, it is an invented measure - a score for measuring particular human "skill" or set of skills. So it cannot be only DNA related. It is not something to be found in the body or brain. As all serious researchers conclude, the intelligence is a product of many factors.

    Second - think - is it the reason that the world and especially the politics is extremely male dominated lesser skill and IQ of women or the fact they were not given the same chance in the last couple thousand years? Why are more men on leading positions? Lesser female intelligence on average?

    Now connect two and two - blacks in your country were still slaves as recent as 150 years ago. Their condition only very slowly improved. On average their economic and educational chances are still much worse than the average white person's.

    Test 4 year old kids and see how their IQ "biologically" differs. Average teenage blacks of USA got much less opportunity and education than average white kid and their "IQ" which is a "score" not some property of the organism and which is NOT biological, but psychological category is surely very influenced by that.

    So, sure, I don't doubt that the average IQ was measured like it is stated it was. But the reasons are surely not just genetic if genetic at all.
    Also think how small is the population of let's say Jews, compared to the rest. So you can only test in that small pool, in the community that is on average extremely privileged and rich. Wouldn't you think that this influences the "SCORE" which IQ is? ;)

    And then again - for humor purposes - if I were black - I would say - who cares you white assholes, we have on average bigger dicks and are better athletes. And when you slave at boring office jobs, we fuck your women and daughters who want to taste the supreme cock and muscular body, not your wimpy little dick and ugly white beer belly. :excited:


    Anyway... :wall:
     
  10. Distant Lover

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    These statistics cover 1990 to 2010. They demonstrate that the race gap in SAT scores between whites and blacks is increasing.

    http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

    These statistics are from 2003.

    http://www.blackexcel.org/06-sat-act-scores-by-race-ethnicity.htm

    If you have more recent data that demonstrates that blacks are closing the race gap, please post them.
     
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    You sound like tobacco industry executives claiming that there is no evidence that cigarettes cause lung cancer, and that more investigation is needed.

    Also, investigation into the biological reasons for high black crime and low black intelligence is strongly discouraged.
     
  13. Distant Lover

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    The reason it is debated is because blacks continue to have high crime rates and low intelligence, and because those who shout "Racist!" at those of us who point this out have not been able to put us in prison yet.
     
  14. Distant Lover

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    How long will whites have to hear that alibi" Black social pathology actually increased after they were given equal rights with the civil rights legislation. Black crime continued to rise in the United States until the prison population began to increase.
     
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    The Black-White difference in IQ appears as early as three years of age. If the races are matched for education and income, the gap only goes down by 4 IQ points. So, Black-White differences are not due only to social class. It is less well known that Orientals have a higher IQ than Whites.
    http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf
     
  17. Distant Lover

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    There are a mere 12 Million Jews in the entire world yet they have received 192 Nobel Prizes.
    The Muslims number 1.4 Billion (with a very big "B")... or 117 times the number of Jews! Based upon this 117:1 Muslim-to-Jewish ratio, one might expect the Muslims to have 22,464 Nobel Laureates. They have NINE! and one of them [Arafat] is a murderer (Allahu Akbar, indeed!)

    Unless the Swedes and Norwegians start awarding Nobel Prizes for plane hijackings, pizza shop bombings, civilian bus attacks, Jihad suicides/homicides, drive-by shootings, throat-slittings, embassy attacks and other such acts of barbarisms, the embarrassing low level of contribution to the welfare of Civilization and Mankind by the [Arab] Muslim world will continue. The Jewish People, meanwhile, will continue being the Lights Unto All Nations.
    http://www.masada2000.org/nobel.html
     
  18. Arvin

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    So there you have it... if that data is even accurate - 4 IQ points - is that enough for any kind of supremacy claims? With your own "facts" - that small difference is negligible and prone to statistical error... 4 points more or less... If Orientals have higher IQs why is it that most innovations and discoveries in the 20th century come from the white male dominated West? I would suspect wealth and resulting better social conditions in the 19th to early 20th century. It will probably change again. In the more distant past the innovations and science came mostly from China, India, Persia (oh, are the "lightly tanned" also less intelligent?)

    Your opinion is still moronic and you interpret facts to suit your bigot intents.

    Some more (equally moronic) proof for superior muscle and cock genetics:

    http://video.xnxx.com/video1323218/caught_on_camera_cheating_with_her_black_lover

    http://video.xnxx.com/video1290142/...e_keeps_coming_back_for_more_bbc_bigblackcock

    :kiss:
     
  19. Distant Lover

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    I mentioned Washington, DC public schools because it is easy to document that they are well financed, predominantly black, and dangerous. Nevertheless, it is well known in the United States that predominantly black public schools are dangerous places where little learning takes place. They frequently have metal detectors on the doors to keep students from bringing guns to school, and security guards who may be armed with police batons and mace to try to keep order.
     
  20. Distant Lover

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    Your humor is crude, and indicates an inferior mind.