Now this si one stupid question!!!

 

what rape is rape no matter if its gang or just one guy they all get charged for rape.

Now if u ment
rape/rāp/


Noun:

• The crime, committed by a man, of forcing another person to have sexual intercourse with him, esp. by the threat or use of violence.
• A plant (genus Brassica) of the cabbage family with bright yellow, heavily scented flowers, esp. a variety (oilseed rape) grown for its...
• The stalks and skins of grapes left after winemaking, used in making vinegar.

then yes if u are skinning grapes to make vinegar

 

Let me get this straight what you are actually saying is that the reason a woman would feel the way she might after being raped is because society has programmed her to feel guilt about sex..

by your argument actually she ought to feel pretty good about herself and perhaps even enjoy and be complimented by the attention.

 

I'm taking an educated guess.
But yes it seems like women mainly are ashamed after
Getting raped. And women are looked down on for
being hookers, porn actress, slutty, loose, etc. By men
And women. You sound like one of them types from
What i've seen from your beliefs.
I dont expect them to like rape, but going into severe
Depression over it forever seems odd. Then again
People look down on the raped and if they didnt, then
Maybe women wouldnt feel so bad.

 

Just because rape is rape doesnt mean alk rapes are
Severe as the next.

 

Don't you know how boring this has become? Please provide a new controversial question or just fuck off!

 

Rape is rape and as per the webster dictionary rape is the force of sexual intercourse by using a threat violence or per force.......

Any and all rapes that are commited by criminals minor or major are all horrible actions, if pamila anderson walked up to me put a gun to my head and said fuck me or you'll die and if you scream ill blow your brains out, I dont think I could find any enjoyment out of something like that.......

Granted all rapes are not all that violent but rapes are bad period.... just saying you can have your own views but rape is a rape and all rape is bad

 

it would be bad either way dosent matter if his good looking or not if i dont want to have sex....you violate me and on top of that try to pay me off like a prostitute i would be very pist off, humiliated...
im not opposed to role playing

 

Thats because you been here since the beginning
And check this thread 50 times a day.
There are people who just seen it, its not all about you.
Gaywad.

 

Dont let websters tell you how to think. Make your
Own opinions.

 

Are you offering to do some role playing with me?
How easily are you offended?

 

I beg to differ, I check it at least 100 times a day, don't under-estimate my fanatical obsession for you my love.

Oooh I love it when you call me Gaywad, it's so butch.

You see, you fell into my trap, I knew if I insulted you that it would result in you getting all aggressive and manly. You know I can't resist you when you're like that. Go on, treat me like a bitch, you know you want to.

 

When I saw the first post what I was initially going to post was, "Oh, Dr_Love, you have no idea of the can of worms you've opened up." Well, it looks like whether or not you did before, you know now. You've been quite the trooper carrying the torch for this question as long as you have. I think it's time for some backup*.

Sorry to break it you all of you that have gotten into such a tizzy about this, but not only is dr_love asking a question that it both intelligent and pertinent, I can tell you for a fact that the answer is yes. How can I say this? Scientifically: I've known personally two such women.

The common retorts to this all fail quickly. Yes, it was rape. In both cases the rapist cared absolutely nothing about the feelings of the woman in question: he didn't ask, he didn't hold back, and he didn't leave the money or even flowers. It was pure, in the core essence of the word, rape. Also, both women had plenty of time to consider it afterwards. I've talked about it with both of them, one for a long time, and they full well understand what happened. There is no "pretending I liked it" denial, there is no purposeful mischaracterization designed to classify the event into something more manageable (ie, lying to oneself about it). It was rape, and they enjoyed it.

Thus the answer to dr_love's question is "yes". In turn, that makes everyone who has been attacking him ... well, it's logic or bust for me, so I'll just say, "wrong".

You don't need my experience to come to this conclusion, though. Someone pointed out that most of the people on this thread say that didn't/wouldn't enjoy it. That's true. But how did the thread start out? In the beginning of it, the opinions were a bit more split with several women hypothesizing that they would enjoy it. Then the swearing brigade against him came for daring to simply ask a question, and suddenly the voices were suddenly unanimous. So now ask yourself a question: how many people women (or men, even if he didn't ask this question specifically of them) might have also posted the same but now suddenly don't feel comfortable doing so?

I can't answer that for sure, but one thing I can say is that this is how this type of thread goes every time it comes up. The good dr here is not the only person asking this, and the women who responded here "yes" are not the only ones doing that either. I've seen this conversation come up plenty, and the pattern is always the same: some mixed opinions at first, then the screamers descend, thundering their indignation that anyone could even think to ask that, and the positive potential of the thread typically collapses from there. The people who were treating the question objectively and simply examining it for what it is as opposed to whether or not the answers they read clashes with their own personal mores suddenly go silent.

Hmmm... that's interesting. Pressuring women into silence in the name of liberating them.

Anyway, in addition to knowing several women in person, through conversations like these and forums like these I've known even more online, some a bit closely, some as nothing more than a passing name. Of course I can't say for certain this about anyone I haven't met, but I can point out what statistics says about the possibility of every last one of them lying, especially as a number of them got quite detailed and extensive about their experiences.

That then puts the women who say "I never have experienced it, but I'd like to" in a different light. Especially if other women have enjoyed it, how can you say so certainly that they wouldn't? Because you or someone else you know didn't? Hey, I hate broccoli, that must mean everyone has to hate it! Don't come in here telling me otherwise, buster!!!!! No, the contrary question that is more rational is to ask someone who has never experienced it what makes *them* so certain? I'm not saying they would, but you can't logically ask this of one side and not the other.

Why might someone outright want to be raped? The answer is simple, though I won't go all righteous since, as obvious as it looks like in retrospect, it took me a long time to come to it too. If someone wants to be raped it is because, from all of my experience in trying to understand this myself, they want to be in a position in which all choice or thought or control is stripped from him. For those of you in the BSDM community this probably sounds familiar. It's the same principle, except that people with this interest want to take it to its logical extreme. Not only do they not want safewords (which is also a common topic, typically generating the same arguments), but they don't even want it usually to be someone they know at all: they don't even want even the remotest chance that their feelings will be considered. They *want* to be objectified. Rape (in all of its forms, right down to the most visceral) is the ultimate objectification. The pain, the humiliation, the belittling, all of the things that so many of you are swearing they don't actually want, I am telling you that they do, and they long for it.

This hits on, then, why someone's true desires might cause other people (who I'm going to guess are normally all about celebrating people's diverse sexualities, yes?) to suddenly seize up. It is due to the nature of what it is that they want. After all, if someone honestly wants someone to have someone not care about their wishes, and someone else were to see that and think it's a grand idea, what is to say that they wouldn't decide that you are the one who needs this? Yeah, it's messy, no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean that the way to deal with it is to shut your eyes, jump all over anyone who even thinks of asking the question, and pretend that this all doesn't exist. I'm sorry if any of the above data clashes with your modern, enlightened world and all of its theories about personal empowerment, but all of your philosophizing about the way you think the world should be won't even change the way it is.

And this is the way it is: some women enjoy being raped. End of story. What you want to do with this knowledge is completely up to you. You can stick your fingers in your ears, you can kill the messenger, but the message remains, and it's not going away. So maybe, then, you can do something just a bit more constructive about it than shove into the Burgeoning Bithole of DeadEnd Internet FlameFests. I'm only posting this one post on this thread, and you can all do what you want about it. If you want to talk about this more constructively, hit me up privately. I'd love to use this place to make conversation with people who aren't afraid of questioning every last truth they've been brought up to believe in. To say the least, these days it would be a refreshing change.

* - BTW, since I know it's a likely response, no, this isn't he, or some other user you know that just registered a separate name. This is my first post ever on xnxx, though I've been lurking a while. I'm posting because this is a topic I've spent years considering but not speaking about.

We'll see how long it lasts this time. The last time I posted arguments about sexuality that even the purported "open-minded" couldn't handle, I got locked down. It didn't matter that I was doing nothing but having a rational discussion. We'll see if it matters now.

 

Damn that was a long thread.

I dont think many people realize that europe makes
Porn that is illegal in america and other countries.
Rape porn that involves torture that cant be fake
Torture, they are bleeding, open wounds, etc.
Some women have severe pussy piercings and do
Heavy weight challanges and what not.
These women might be posting here, who knows?
They dony need to make s&m porn to live. They
Choose to. They can easily make good money off
Making regular porn.
But they choose to hang bowling balls from their
Nipples with clamps.

 

To cut a long story short...

I've taken the liberty to cut the long post, but this does not mean that I haven't read it.

From my experience here, I'm pretty sure that you won't be banned, or something...

Now, about the subject: During my youth I've had the chance to have sex with almost 300 (three hundred) girls & women...
Honestly, I haven't kept an agenda, so I'm not sure if there weren't even more - who cares?
It so happened that some of them have had suffered the trauma of rape...
Without implying it's a rule, none of them mentioned anything about pleasure during that sexual act.

I cannot deny your considering that some women like to be raped, since during my sexual "adventures" I used to be cautious, avoiding the too freaky girls, or retards under medical care, or patients from asylums...

Normal people don't like to be raped!
And please don't try to explain to me what a thin ice is between normality and abnormality, since I have studied the subject for a while...

In rest, please make the effort and read what I've already posted on this thread, and I'm sure that you'll understand my opinion and position.

Thanks.

 

whats your idea of a normal person?

 

To everyone who is bent out of shape about the Dr. he does it for the responses, I fell for it too before.

Dr., I know one of these "enjoyed rape people" you talk about it does happen, but the enjoyment is normally an after thought, if she wants sex it is not rape, if she doesn't it is rape, closed case. Someone can be raped and later on admit that she enjoyed it, but it is still rape because she did not want it, if she wants it at the time, it can no longer be considered rape. Does this makes sense?

 

I make threads to get responses? You must be smarter than
A lab rat to have figure that out.

This thread isnt really asking what rape is, i dont know
Why people are explaining that.

 

There is a reason why you find it a 'bit odd' and that is because you are not a woman. For all the times you hear that actually some woman like being raped, the majority dont. Some woman may come through the ordeal quicker than the others and the reasons for this may be plenty.

Your assumptions show, at best, a lack of empathy and an incredibly poor understanding of the subject.

Can I please point out that the this thread was about whether being raped by a good looking guy was better than being raped by a not good looking guy and if being handed a bundle of cash afterward would mitigate the guys actions. As rightly pointed out more than once. Rape is Rape.

The reason the OP has been chastised is not because he dared to start an intelligent discussion on rape it is because the premise of his argument was fundamentally flawed, showed a lack of respect and an level of understanding which would embaras a 2 year old

 

its not about that its being powerless unable to stop your attacker from violating you. every time you shut your eyes you see the face of your attacker. ashamed that you could do nothing, its not been looked down on its being seen as a victim seein the look people give you when thay know