I would like to see the firearms and glass you guys are using.

No random pictures from google. I want to see the equipment that you guys own and shoot with.

 

I don't post pics of anything I own or of myself online for protection and the fact I am so paraniod Im close to wearing a tinfoil hat.
My main rifle is a Remington 700 custom built to USMC specs. It is chambered in short action .308Win has a 24" barrel with 1:12 right hand twist 6 grooves with a AN/PVS-10 scope. Basicly it's the M40A3 I was issued in the Marines. I ordered another one that is built to the specs of the M40A5 but haven't used it yet. The rifles I was using in the quotes you mentioned were military issue and I don't have pics of them.

 

I've been mostly absent from XNXX this summer and just found this thread.

I've read the first and last pages and admit nothing in between.

I've been both under and returned fire like many on this site.

I have no problem with legitimate gun ownership.

I question the need for fully automatic firearms in the general population, but people have the right under the law to do so..
Yes, there are murders and more frequently mass murders. I don't know the stats but on a national level, it has to be in the several hundreds each year.

Compared to the millions in this country, it's a relatively low number .
What I find more disturbing, are the number of domestic beatings, knifing's and murders from other instruments that are in the hundreds of thousands reported and unreported each year, but there's little discussion, or outrage of the victimization of women within the household.

I'm not trying to justify anything here, but rather hoping people will take into consideration a wider view of the world and discuss violence as a whole.

Guns are an instrument designed for death. That's what rattles the general population. There are far more deaths caused each year through the use of other items other than guns, but guns scare many people. They've never held, fired or possessed one, but fear the possibilities of what happens when some deranged individual seeks to snuff out the innocent.

People have to understand that a single person can kill and maim dozens of people in a crowded area with the use of a simple kitchen knife. A gun runs out of ammunition, and needs to be reloaded. A knife only falls silent when it stops moving. Perspective can sometimes be enlightening.

So, in my humble opinion, I think the discussion should be more about curbing violence and what causes it rather than focusing on a single means.

 

Really?? Can anyone who wants one go out and buy a fully automatic weapon? Or do they have to be licensed first?

And did the Colorado shooter have to stop and reload or did he have a 100 shot magazine?

Personally I think you're just trying to bullshit your way through this.

 

WOW, Surprised a little at your response.
There's not any bullshitting my way through this.
It's funny that when someone puts forward a suggestion to talk about violence as a whole, you'd suggest someone is bullshitting there way through such a devastating topic, rather than discuss the issue.
Anyone who's suffered from extreme violence doesn't really want to experience the act a second time. All they know is that they've suffered serious injuries.
Whether it's from a gun, bat, knife, fists or someones boots isn't the issue. It's the violence of the act that's caused the injuries or death.
We call ourselves a civilized society, and yet we commit such horrendous acts against one another.
As the economy fails, jobs become harder to find and the stress of social upheaval adds even more pressure to already stressed populations, violence may well become a common mechanism for normally passive and peaceful people to acquire results they may not be able to acquire otherwise.
What I was suggesting, was that guns aren't causing the majority of deaths and injury. To concentrate on only one cause of deaths through violence ignores the majority of violent acts devastating the lives of families and communities.
I'm surprised you'd want to ignore the majority of victims.
I'm hoping you've misunderstood my intentions to include all mechanisms of violence including guns, and the victims that result from these acts.
It's not the guns that are out of control, it's people and their all to often unrestricted access to them.
I may be overtired, but I thought I had made my intentions quite clear.

 

If you're not just bullshitting your way through this why did you say all this but not answer those two simple questions I asked you?

But just to show you that you are bullshitting your way through this here's a chart that shows 63% of murders are committed with guns which is more than all other murders with other weapons combined.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html

So much for you're bullshit claim that "There are far more deaths caused each year through the use of other items other than guns, but guns scare many people."

 

He would have had to reload. But his AR jammed and he did not have the training to clear it on the move. A AR is semi-automatic not fully auto very view AR style weapons are fully auto and any of them in civilian ownership that can do it are ex-government owned and are Class 3 weapons requiring strict backround checks and lots of paper work. Then there is the tax stamps.

 

You're right about all that with the exception that by the time he needed to reload 70 people had been shot.

That's why I think assault weapons with high capacity clips should have about the same requirements that Class 3 (fully automatic) weapons have.

I've pointed out several times on this thread that even though there are tens of thousands of fully automatic machine guns in private hands we never have one of them used in one of these mass killings, or at least I've sure never heard of one.

Why is that do you suppose?

I think its because of the stringent background checks and the licensing procedure. In other words they will not just allow any nutcase off the street to purchase and own one.

In my opinion that's what we need to do with assault weapons and high capacity clips to keep them out of the hands of nutcases.

 

Oh I agree I own several weapons that fall in that catagory and I have no issue with paying more and takinng more backround checks to get them.

I am a responsible gun owner and think all guns should require the checks that the Class 3's do.

I have a C&R 03 FFL so I can buy cerio and relic firearms and have them shipped to me and it also lets me bypass some back round checks like the 3 day wait at local shops because of it's requirements and my reputation.

 

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I was at the range last weekend. And I was in complete control:excited:

 

Figures. Shooting holes in paper just like you do here. What a phony pussy. I've been elk hunting half this month so far and will go again to take something I can actually pack out and eat.

What a Natural Boy.

 

I'm pleasantly surprised you agree with that but I think that's the way to go and would not outlaw semi automatic shot guns, rifles, and pistols for hunting and self protection.

And maybe you're the one I should be asking about this although it might not even be true anymore I'm not sure.

But several years ago some gun shops in my area were overflowing with fully automatic machine guns that were sold as collector pieces and according to the shop owner did not require class three checks and licensing. And the reason according to the shop owner was because they were all imported weapons from Eastern Block countries (many of them World War II vintage) and they had no ammunition to go with them.

Now that struck me as absurd. Maybe they didn't sell the bullets but I knew myself where I could probably get my hands on some and load my own belts.

Is that still happening or was this shop owner bullshitting me? Because if he was he had hundreds of these machine guns on tables and they were cheap. (None of them however were AK47 calibers).

 

Well, I will be going squirrel hunting this weekend.

Elk hunting huh? I didn't think Elk was in season yet? I doubt you could pack out a field dressed elk, in you're weak feeble condition.

Do they have wheelchair access hunting up on that mountain of yours?

Anyway, have you ever even bagged an Elk?

I have bagged quite a few squirrels.....

 

I fail to see how you can try to put someone down for target shooting, then boast of elk hunting, as far as I can see neither are shooting back.

 

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Minneapolis Shooting: Five Dead Including Gunman At Accent Signage Systems

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/minneapolis-shooting-accent-signage-systems_n_1921261.html

 

It is Elk season in Wyoming. I had out of state tags for it and something came up and couldn't hunt this year so I gave them away.

 

Hey squirrel hunting with assault weapons. Now that's a real sportsman.

But by the way one of our hunting partners managed to shoot a squirrel with a cross bow and he was mighty tastey.

Archery season you parrot. And yes I can still hike and pack elk but I didn't have to this time because my son in law was the one who took the six point and he and his buddy packed it the two miles back to camp while all I had to pack was their spare gear and the rack.

No and without that you would not last a day in these mountains where I've got a million tracks on them going back more than 40 years.

Not quite one for the past 35 years but close to that.

Well than you're a regular Daniel Boone aren't you Natural Boy. Squirrels WOW!!!