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  1. Lord_Coghill

    Lord_Coghill Porn Surfer

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    I cant stand him and think he is a disgusting excuse for a person and the worst president since Abe Lincoln. I wish Ron Paul had a chance.
     
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  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    It seems like you regret the end of slavery.
     
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  3. ridgerunner

    ridgerunner gardener of stone

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    dl
    1 the emancipation proclimation actualy had no bearing on the cecceded states if you read it

    because at the time it was placed into law the south was not in america
    and it was aimed only at the southern states
    last i knew there is no legaly defined "southern states"
    therefore the law cannot apply

    and do not even start me on the causes for the civil war because i prommise you it was not slavery
     
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  4. Tommiecd

    Tommiecd The voice of reason

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    A man like Ron Paul will never be elected. The people that run this country have invested billions if not trillions of dollars in propaganda to insure that never happens. Even if by some miracle someone like Ron Paul were elected, he or she would be assassinated in their first year.
     
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  5. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Slavery was the main issue. Tariffs were a secondary issue.
     
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  6. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Ron Paul's support for laissez faire capitalism is reasonably congenial to those who own and run the United States.
     
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  7. ace's n 8's

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    OK,, why dont you show me that,,show me where it is, something, that would prove your very assumption,,you have all day.
     
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  8. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Republicans want to cut government spending and employment. The last time one can possibly say this reduced unemployment was the 1920s. From 1920 to 1928 unemployment declined by one percent.

    When President Roosevelt cut government spending in 1937 unemployment increased from 16.9 percent in 1936 to 19.0 percent in 1938.

    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104719.html
     
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  9. Lord_Coghill

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    Not in the slightest and that is a completely absurd and ignorant statement.
    Lincoln did NOT free the slaves. The 13th Amendment, which was passed after his death, did that.

    Depending on your point of view, if you feel the Southern Confederacy was an illegitimate nation, then Lincoln invaded his own country resulting in over 600,000 deaths to force his will upon others. If you believe it was a legitimate nation then he invaded a legal, and separate nation, using the US Armed forces illegally, accomplishing the same ends as aforementioned.
     
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  10. ace's n 8's

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    This is nowhere close to a reasonable set of answers to my specific question to you, you said;
    You need to start with the ''POLICIES'' that the republicans have interfered with, and how those specific policies have a ''projected'' jobs increase.

    TICK TOCK,,TICK TOCK....Times a wasting..........
     
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  11. Lord_Coghill

    Lord_Coghill Porn Surfer

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    For being a proclaimed master of facts, you have none. It was all about Tariffs. Lincoln himself stated, when asked why he would not simply allow the South to be a separate nation: "Where would we generate our revenue?". Many units in the US Federal Army mutinied when the propaganda machine started spewing out "The war to end slavery" garbage. Despite some 3,000 slaves remaining in slavery right under Lincolns nose long after the Emancipation Proc.

    Face the real facts Mr. Master of Facts. "To free the slaves!" has a much better ring to it than "Because we said so!"

    Lets not forget his unconstitutional income tax or his suspension of the Writ of Habeus Corpus. Do I really need to bring out his 1858 speech where he openly declares himself a racist? The guy was a pig and killed thousands of innocents in a war that should never have happened.
     
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  12. Lord_Coghill

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    Regrettably, I am inclined to agree with you. But I sure do wish it would happen and there would be no assassination attempt. No need to tell me what to do with the other hand, I already know.:)
     
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  13. Distant Lover

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    "Cornerstone Speech," by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens, 1861

    The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." ...

    The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically...

    Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
    http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76

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    One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war.

    - Abraham Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address
    http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres32.html
     
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  14. Tommiecd

    Tommiecd The voice of reason

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    You and me both. We would once again be the most admired nation on earth.
     
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  15. Distant Lover

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    Because we elected a proponent of laissez faire capitalism? That economic system has been rejected by every democracy in the world.
     
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  16. BigTrobbing

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    DL I looked up who owns the website Fair.org and guess what???? It is yet another liberal progressive web site. So I take that along with stumblers references as SHIT. Sorry.:eek:
     
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  17. BigTrobbing

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    The old coot harry ried has yet to bring any bill from the house to the floor of the senate.

    And lets not forget obumbnuts will be the first president NOT to sign a budget in 4 years and that is also thanks to the old coot.
     
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  18. ace's n 8's

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    God dammit,,,I knew it,, I fucking knew it,,,,,that fucking George Soros has a far reaching wallet, but lets worry about Romney's tax records,,,,,FUCKING LEFTISTS:mad::mad::mad:..
     
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  19. ace's n 8's

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    DL... where's my answers????

    TICK TOCK,,,,TICK TOCK........
     
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  20. AZRIEL

    AZRIEL BROTHER GRIM

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