Lets take a scene (or story which contains only of one sex scene) where one actor is clearly forced into sex against her/his will. Classic example would be "She slept in her bed, when the intruder opened the window, jumped on her [and so on]".

Now most stories go one of two ways: Either the woman is taken against her will the whole time or half way through she starts enjoying it and takes more or less part in the action. Of course it doesn't has to be black or white, but mostly one of those directions is dominant in the scene progression.

I personally always choose the first way in my stories for several reasons. First of all I try to create stories which never will happen in reality, but they should be believable enough to make me think it could have happened somewhere sometimes. Now of course I do not have any first hand experience, but I'm pretty sure that while many woman do like forced fantasies, hardly any would enjoy actually being raped in reality halfway through the act. So in order to create a more realistic fantasy this way seems better.
The second reason is that the part which is actually exciting on forced fantasies is having total power over the other one or being in a powerless position - depending on what you like. Once both actors consent to the scene (and if both enjoy it, they basically both consent imho) then this aspect vanishes, because there is no real (ab)use of power if both do what they want to.
Because this is a fantasy I don't actually have to care about a good ending or the feelings of both actors so there is no moral issue neither, but of course this directions does actract readers which complain about the evilness of the author.

Now that being said, I do see arguments for choosing the second route too and the question how valid they are is basically the reason for this thread. First of all if you identify yourself with the victim, so if you like fantasies of being used then I suppose in your fantasy you would enjoy the act. So its not hard to assume that you would also like the victim in the scene start to enjoy, rather than reading about the (emotional) pain of forced sex.
The second reason is that steering the rape scene to a consentual end, one can relativize all the negative aspects of rape, allowing an actually dark event to have an happy ending. Even if you identify yourself with the rapist, you don't have to feel guilty. Before a court it wouldn't make a difference of course, but most readers probably feel better if there are no cruel consequences and being a fantasy, one can easily do so.

What do you think? What kind of story do you find hotter in general (of course there are bad and good examples on either site and I am not even implicating that mine are good examples yet ).

 

personal opinion:

1. rapist enters the scene of the crime
2. rapist gets double orchidectomy administered by intended victim - optionally, gets 'Bobbitted' at his root - and the pieces fed to the dog
3. rapist gets handed over to cops for further insult

BTW - double orchidectomy would be performed using the following instrument

 

Hey darth,

if you are into mutilation or cannibalism thats kinky, I just don't see how this relates to the topic.

 

my other half was raped repeatedly from the time that she was 9 till she was 13 - I have no sympathy for rapists and little tolerance for stories involving forcible rape.

There are mental and emotional issues (not to mention relationship issues) left behind by the rape which stories rarely, if ever, mention.

 

Maybe your thread is flawed? Did it ever occur to you that most people are offended by rape? Personally I'm one of those people who hates the subject. If you really want to write a rape story just write it, asking for peoples help as to how to write one is going to get you a mixed bag of responces.

Darth's comment about the rapist getting his dick cut off and fed to a dog is just as valid a point as your question asks How do you think should a forced sex / rape scene progress? Maybe to some of us we would like to see the rapist get his and not the victim and that is how we see a forced sex scene play out.

If you don't want ambiguous answers don't ask ambiguous questions. I don't ever knock anyone for what they are into but you have to tread lightly when it comes to rape. The word itself brings up a lot of bad feelings in most people.

 

Actually I am offended by rape too, just not by rape fantasies. And I assumed that most people who are not into such fantasies are mature enough to leave such questions alone rather than trying to force their moral views on others.
And of course I wouldn't have asked such a questions on a vanilla whatever forum, but a good part of the stories on this site do contain rape, so there are authors and readers and those are the ones I would like to hear their oppinion about.

 

I've written rape scenes when it was important to the story I was telling. I don't like the whole subject of rape but I will not shy away from things that happen in real life. When it was nessasary to the story I've had characters raped and abused and brutally beaten.

What I was getting at with my post was that I would never start a thread discussing rape, abuse or brutal beatings like we were talking about where is the best place to go to lunch or what's your favorite sexual position.

All I was saying was just write your scene and let your writing tell the story. When bringing up the subject your opening yourself up for a mix of responces from those who would help you write your story to those who would condem you for it.

If you get strong responces that seem off subject you have to let it go and realize that even though this forum isn't "Vanilla" your topic is to strong to be casually talked about.

Sorry if that's not what you want to hear but it's a subject most wont talk about.

 

For a fair amount of people, forced fantasies is just the same as talking about any other fetish. I mean I'm not into 50% of the keywords of the story site neither, but I sure don't mind if authors discuss how to write their stories best. And I already open myself to responses like those by publishing my story in the first place.

Now, I didn't started this thread to troll or to provoke anyone, but because I'm genuinely interested in oppinions which will influence my future writings (whenever this will be). I also don't write my stories because I have a tale to tell, but to offer enjoyment to the readers and me, so there is no "do it in your small chamber were noone can see you and hide it somewhere in the story secion"-way.

I'm not really interested in discussing the pros and cons of rape fantasies any further. If the forum is "to vanilla" noone will answer and the thread will fade away (well after those first responses many will avoid doing so anyway by now), so there is no need in flaming any further.

 

For what it is worth, I did not see your post as a troll but as a serious question.
My response was meant to be presented as my opinion and was not meant to be forcing you to write to my opinion.

:rose:

Unfortunately, this is a topic on which my emotions rival Joe Dirty in his anti-pedo rants. HOWEVER, I have made my statement and will withdraw from further discussion here as I have no intent to start a flame war where no intent to offend was given.

Truce.

BTW - for an idea on how to handle the more extreme version of rape - snuff - try reading The Summer of Discontent

 

Darthel, in my book rapists only deserve these fates:

Drawn and quartered - slowly as possible.
Staked to an anthill in the middle of summer and covered with honey.
Coated in melted cheese and tossed into a pach of javalinas.

And for those who harm children:

Toss them to a regiment of marines...there will be little left of them.

 

Danris - as a subject to be openly discussed, this is one topic that will all but blow the lid off the place given the least provocation by the trolls or others who love to argue on such matters.

I will personally say that I do not prefer such stories, and would advise against the writing of them. My opinion having been stated I now withdraw from further commentary.

 

one more comment - This is NOT intended to be inflammatory

If the scene is required for a story, then it is required. Write the scene as it has to be. That will end up with the scene being dictated by the characters as some of the other writers on this board have described. You can look at it as capturing the action instead of creating the action but ASKING how to write the scene is too close to asking how to create it.

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If you have the monster within you who can create the rape scene then you will not need advice on how to write it. If you do NOT have that monster within you then inviting it in has the potential to turn into a mistake that you might not be able to handle. MY demons are firmly chained; are your chains strong enough? :rose:

 

Good points Darth and Snow. I wasn't trying to "Flame" this post, I was just trying to convay that it's a lot more toche of a subject then most other fetishes.

The couple times I've done a rape scene it was a because it was a part of the over all bigger picture to their life story. Because the trama suffered by the victim in their past plays a part of how their future decisions are made.

I never said hide in a corner but all I was saying was be careful because I didn't want to see the trolls attack this thread. Believe me when the trolls get going it would be far worse then what we have said.

Write your story and do it your way. No one(on any topic) can influence your writing better then you can yourself. In the end your writing is YOUR voice no matter how much advice you get.

 

Please stick with force the whole way. A woman actually starting to enjoy it halfway through and finishing her "rape" off with a facial is fucking ridiculous.

 

I have recently posted a story on this forum - probably on page two at this point - called Kimberly Chooses Rape.

It has been well received here. I have had none of the grief you have taken by asking your question.

In fairness, it is not a "rape fetish" story. In fact no rape takes place in it. The story is about a teenager who is being drawn into a date rape, and a friend's efforts to pull her back.

If I could answer your question, I would. But I do not write rape fetish stories.

No doubt you are learning, the hard way, that this is a community of people on a porn site. The "porn site" aspect happens to be secondary. Especially here on the story forum.

People do write and post rape fetish stories, and they are immensely popular here. But the people who read them do not like to admit it here on the forum, for whatever reason. If you want your question answered, this is not the best place to ask it. You are likely to get a lot of projection and soul searching, instead.

A better route would be to go on the story site (the "Sex Stories" link at the top of this page). Pick the "rape" topic. Read stories there. Look for stories that have high read counts. You should be able to tell, by the hit counts, which plotlines are the most popular. Then, if you still have questions, PM the authors.

There are some good writers who occasionally pop in for self-abuse. One especially good writer, who does post rape fetish stories and does drop in once and a while, is Rebeca Lewis. He (yes, he) has a couple pen names, and he is here a lot, on one account or another. Read his stuff. If you still have questions, PM him directly.

Good luck.

 

I like this post. If the rapists harm children, they need to be fed feet first through a very slow moving wood chipper. IMO.

 

With the rapest forcing his victim to suck him, and the victim gets into it!
"You thrust into my mouth, harder. I'm stroking you faster and milking the head of your wonderful cock. As I suck and stroke you respond holding my head, moving me onto you. But the stimulation of me massaging your sack, as I stroke and suck, is too much. I feel your sack contract, you push deeper into my mouth. I feel a pulse in your shaft. One thrust, two, three, you release each time. I sucking on you more excited than I could have imagined. I swallow with each pulse, tasting your cum."
Then you can proceed. You would most likely have accomplishes involved.
SW

 

I don't think there's a "should" or "should not" way to proceed. You write the scene the way the story needs it to be written.

If the rape is the only scene in the story, you're free to go whichever way you feel like.

If it's part of a larger series, then I can't imagine a rape scene not being a pivotal part of the story. It will change the characters involved. So you write it in such a way that the characters are changed in the way you intend.

That said, I'm not a big fan of rape scenes anyway, but on the occasions where I do read them, I roll my eyes when the victim starts enjoying it. It's hard to make that seem believable (although not impossible).

 

Only my opinion.

My summer job during college was working in a hospital. I saw the physical trauma of rape, the black eyes, the knife cuts, the bloodied underwear of a child. I saw the long-term effects, too -- the suicide attempts, the botched back-alley abortions, and babies born with an STD.

Over the years I've known a few rape victims -- a small sample of the world's total number of victims, granted, but none of the people I talked to recalls liking it.

I've written rape and near-rape stories scenes, not to titillate my readers, hopefully, but to make my villains more hateful. Rape, to me, is abuse, assault, the second most domineering act one can perform on another. It's stealing their intimacy, which to me is only one step below stealing their life. My rapists don't get away with it, and my rape scenes are more about violence than sex.

Write what you want, of course, but don't be too surprised if people flame you if you have your rape victim cum too many times.

 

There's a demand for these stories

I had a look at the Rape theme; 2,777 stories and biggest hit 1.8 million reads.

So if you want to pitch your work that way it could be worthwhile on a read numbers basis.

To answer the question I agree with DC; write the scene the way it will work in the context of the total story. The woman's response must be consistent with the personality you have given her.

And no, I don't like the genre at all but I am all for tolerance and live and let live on the site so write away, I won't read them but doubtless many thousands are waiting with baited breath for the next riveting rape story to appear.