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  1. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    You have got to be kidding me, are you serious???? Take a look at the top Canadian companies http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...00-public-companies-by-profit/article4371923/ Now let's look at Germany http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/183/biz_07germany40_The-Forbes-40-Germany_land.html Now Australia http://www.anz.com/personal/investi...estment-account/australias-biggest-companies/


    Notice any nationally owned companies there.

    You haven't got a clue on the economies of the rest of the world.
     
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  2. Kimiko

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    It's also something big business abhors. The evidence is everywhere. They hate competition, and they do everything possible to eliminate it.
     
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  3. Kimiko

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    Hey, Joe?

    Suck it! :)
     
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  4. spjames

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    He said plays a role. Not owns nationalized companies. Governments can play a role in their economy and in many many different ways. The major ways are currency manipulations, excessive or very little regulation, taxation and labor relations. You don't seem to have much of a clue either.
     
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  5. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    I have no argument there, as you (should) know, I believe that unregulated, monopolistic, global corporations are more stifling to the economy than most other non-government factors.

    However, we seem to be regulating the very people who need it the least, while giving a wink and a nod to the biggies. Something that your victorious candidate has carried on with unchecked.
     
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  6. spjames

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    Do you think the Republican candidate would have been any different. I for one don't think he would have been.
     
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  7. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    You must not have as much history with DL as I do. He consistently advocates the elimination of capitalism for socialism, so perhaps I read more into his posts than you do.

    As far as my understanding of the practices of other countries, in regard to those businesses located in them, I admit that I do not have a working knowledge of each. However, the taxation, currency manipulation, regulations lax or rigid and labor relations are fairly open to review. The countries of Germany, Canada and Australian are very much capitalistic, their businesses are well regulated and seem to be taxed equitably. There is also stability in their labor relations, with little history of labor stoppages or strife.

    Not so much different from the US, with the possible exception of our biggest corporations, who have gotten and continue to get favorable treatment here and in the other three countries mentioned.
     
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  8. spjames

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    Also something I failed to mention was import restrictions. That can play a HUGE role in just about any economy.
     
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  10. spjames

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    As long as your serving up spam. I like it fried till lightly brown. I'll have a side of 2 eggs with that over easy and maybe some grits too.
     
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  11. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    No I do not think so either.

    One huge difference, you would not have to hear lies about them doing it. My thoughts are that we have a real serious problem. We have a government that freely spends what they do not have, the obligations that we have to existing entitlements will soon outstrip our ability to fund them. We are spending on programs for defense, for foreign interests and for domestic programs that are growing unchecked.

    We have a grossly inequitable tax code. We have income tax revenues from less than half of our population, we have benefits going to half of our population, we are running out of people who actually pay taxes.

    If you taxed every one of the 1%, 100% of their income, it would not pay the interest on our debt. We have a real serious problem, the progressives either do not see or they think that they can raise taxes on those already paying taxes to cover it. Sorry, it won't even dent it.
     
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  12. spjames

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    The mold was cast back during the Reagan administration. Lowering taxes on corps and the rich while trying to cast a bad light on social spending or outright saying it was the problem. Trickle down economics was one of the most economically disastrous concepts to ever have been thought of.
     
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  13. stumbler

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    No I cannot. Not at all because that's the same thing President Reagan said when he deregulated the savings and loan industry which promptly got ripped off for half a billion dollars and collapsed.

    That's the same conservative lie George Bush was telling while he cut regulations and regulators and that one cost us $13 Trillion.

    No I'm done falling for that lie.

    Well tenguy school me on this one. Just where and when is this true free market you're talking about. Show me that or admit you're actually spreading myths again.

    You are absolutely right about that. That's how they got to be so big.

    Oh yeah we don't need to be picking on small businesses like little old companies making steroids and mixing medicines. They don't need no stinking government interference. What could go wrong?
     
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  14. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    So that makes it right to continue more of the same?? Not that I totallly agree that it was a bad idea, but rather horribly executed with a high spending Congress.
     
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  16. Ed Itor

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    Hey TG; we do send you oil (in fact most of your oil comes from TGWN), we do support our treaties (i.e.: Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan) it's just that we are not forced to follow blindly looking for non-existent WMDs, we unlike The U.S.A. have paid our UN dues with no arrears, we are too polite to brag, unlike The U.S. we didn't have to bail out our Banks and our economy is strong (maybe not as strong as we'd like, but).
    What you Yanks have to learn is that socialism is not communism nor bad when it helps the people.A friend in Florida couldn't get cataract surgery until he saved up for it I went to the doctor and was sent for the surgery.
     
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  17. deviousdave

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    If you are so against big business, why are you supporting a government that bails out the big failing corporations but doesn't help the small business owner.
     
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  18. spermloop

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    If...

    If I was apart of the republican party I would throw out all the hateful people in the party. Shoot all the hateful people are making the Republican party look real bad...

    We sure do have a lot of hateful Republicans on this site....(How sad)
     
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  19. ridgerunner

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    this is what is the scarriest part of american ploitics
    the democrats will not shut the hell up and just listen to the point that a republican is trying to make but at the same time the republicans will not do it either
    the real issues with the economy are not all on big government or big bussines they lie in the hands of every american consumer
    a company can only get as large as the consumers are willing to support it and can only profit to a point that the people will look elsewhere for their goods and services
    and to address the importation of goods and the resulting decline of american manufacturing that is caused because a company realizes that buying cheaper foriegn made goods results in a larger profit margin and therefore kills competition because more people buy the cheaper imported products which makes the american companies need to increase prices to make a lower profit
    if people would spend a few dollars more to buy american goods slowly but surely the prices would come down to be competitive, the economy would flourish, and everyone would be happy

    now as to governmental regulations
    the federal government should regulate only the minimal operations of a privately held company
    the safety of the products and employees should be overseen by an appointed agency that knows the individual industry and not governmental buerocrats
    allowing any 1 company to get so large and needed that they are labled as "too big to fail" is a waste of the taxpayers money and votes
    any company that accepts federal money for research should be required to release all resulting innovations as public ownership because the people paid for it and should be allowed to freely benefit from it

    no politician should have the right to dictate their ideas of right and wrong on subjects that should be left soley to the church, ideas of same sex marriage and abortion are matters of morality and should not be subject to the legalities of legislations

    i would make exceptions for social security and retirement incomes from taxation but all else should be viewed as income no matter the source and should be taxed equaly and fairly

    but then again the rich want the poor to go away and the poor want the chance to be middleclass
     
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