Fracking is an ecological disaster. It needs to be outlawed. That is hasn't been already is a sign of how corrupted we've become by big oil.

-S-

 

There you go....good for you...

kiss energy independence good bye...

kiss what money you have left good bye...

just mail it all out of the country....

I say...Let's nationalize the Oil Companies !!!!

 

Don't mail it out of the country. That's one of the reasons that Romney lost.

 

Lets remember that when everyone's taxes go up for this free health care lets see what they say.

And who will obama blame when he finds out how bad the last President left America OH wait it was him LOL

 

Why do you guys keep trying to tell these thoroughly debunked lies? This out and out lie has been debunked for thee years at least.

There are also 1806 drilling rigs running right now.

 

What good will our country be if we can't drink the water or breathe the air, I wonder? Fossil fuels are not the future.

-S-

 

Fossil fuels are the now. Future technology isn't ready for prime time yet.

Where do we get the idea that wind mills are future technology? They've been in use for centuries and are proven to not be as reliable and efficient as a coal fired electric plant.

 

Good thing we have other options besides relying only on wind. That coal works well does not mean it's a good solution. It's a slow death.

-S-

 

Don't put it out of business until we do have a good, viable solution.

 

I didn't say put it out of business, but we need to be gearing down. Via a combination of wind, solar and geothermal, we can begin to reduce our dependance on fossil fuels. It requires serious investment though. There are a lot of entrenched interests that want to maintain the status quo. This is why government needs to lead the way, as it does in just about every other forward-thinking nation. Whether it's through heavy incentives or investments in R&D, it needs to happen.

There won't be one magic bullet and if you're holding back waiting for that to happen, you're waiting for a ship that will never come.

-S-

 

I would love to put up a small wind mill outside my house to supplement my electricity demand. Local code won't allow it.

 

I laughed out loud when I read this. Literally.

Just look at the XNXX forum. When ElCasanova is not here tenguy is our most erudite conservative. That says a lot. From the apex of tenguy it is a pretty swift slide downward, past Joe Dirty, and all the way down to posters who do not merit mention.

According to a Gallup poll dated October 16, 2012 by 57 to 43 percent those with post graduate education favored Obama. Those with high school or less favored Romney by 52 to 48 percent.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx

Conservatism is a respectable political philosophy that goes back at least to the writings of Edmund Burke. Unfortunately, what passes for conservatism in the United States is often little more than hatred for gun control laws and taxes.

 

It's 1,806 rigs too many as I'm sure you agree, and the sooner they go the better.

The fracking has to go, too. It's suspected to be unsafe and we can't take the chance.

 

Where did you get the idea that they are not? The Germans are generating so much electricity from wind that it has outstripped their infrastructure to use it all. That is to say the norther half has so much electricity and their infrastructure to transport it down the southern portions is not up to it. They even tried force feeding the extra juice to Poland and the Czech republic. They turned it down do to their poor infrastructure.

In Iowa yes here in the states 18.8 percent of their electrical generation is from wind power.

 

I've seen it first hand. And right now they are fracking in the water sheds that feed the east coast even though we can live without natural gas and oil but humans cannot live without water.

Bullshit.

U.S. could surpass Saudi oil output by 2020

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/10/23/us-top-oil-producer/1652937/


And for what? So we can pay close to $4 per gallon while gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel remain our largest EXPORTS.

 

Yep if we just had wind turbines lining the coast from Washing DC to Maine after Sandy we would have enough energy stored up for the next 10 years...
If Obama's Battery companies had not gone bankrupt on non-recourse loans and Grants from the taxpayers...

Ask them poor fuckers in the north east how good them solar panels are working this last week...

 

So we have to suffer this for another four years, I am off to a polical site to see if they are talking about porn.

No, they are making the same noises, sore losers and over jubilant winners, what apppears to be missingis some good ideas that will kick start the economy.

 

ROBERT LAURIE's column made me think of the way many liberals responded to the election of Richard Nixon in 1968. They thought Nixon's election was an unfortunate mistake caused by the assassination of Robert Kennedy. They thought that if Kennedy had lived he would have won the Democratic nomination, and the general election.

They ignored the fact that during the 1968 primary the only Democratic candidate who was ever ahead of Nixon in the polls was Hubert Humphrey. They also ignored the popularity of George Wallace. In 1968 the Democratic New Deal coalition was breaking up. The Republican ascendancy was beginning.

In 1968 there was little enthusiasm for the War in Vietnam, but most Americans preferred to continue the conflict rather than lose the war. The five years of black ghetto riots from 1964 to 1968 had alienated the white working class from the Democrats. This constituency had been essential to Democratic electoral victories. The rise in the crime rate since 1960 was also blamed on the Democrats. From 1960 to 1970 the prison population had declined, and the crime rate had doubled.

Currently two factors are working against the Republicans. ROBERT LAURIE's column does not acknowledge them, just as liberals did not acknowledge factors working against the Democrats in 1968.

The first is that the percentage of the electorate that is white is declining. Even if the white working class retains its fatal attraction to the GOP, this constituency will be less important as the non white population grows. Although Asians usually make more money than whites after one or two generations in the United States, they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

The second factor is the growing income gap. The rich keep getting richer as the standard of living for most Americans declines. Consequently, most Americans favor no cuts in middle class entitlements, and higher taxes on the rich. The Republican Party is opposed to both, and does not consider the growing income gap to be a problem.

 

Actually solar energy is helping out the victims of Sandy quite a bit right now.

http://voltaicsystems.com/blog/help-voltaic-help-the-rockaways-after-sandy/

And solar would have been a savior for many people except we don't have a smart grid and so the solar panels are shut down when the grid goes down.

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/...els-usually-no-help-after-a-storm-like-sandy-

And so its actually more important than ever to develop battery backups that will allow solar to function during disasters like this.

http://pro.gigaom.com/blog/solar-panels-hurricane-sandy-and-why-we-need-battery-storage/

By the way you know the DOE green energy program was created in 2005 when the GOP controlled the White-house and both houses of congress don't you? And that the losses from the program are much smaller than anticipated? And that the failure rate on the DOE loan program is much smaller than the failure rate of Small Business Administration loans?

 

Thats nice cause them fuckers dont think much about what Obama FEMA has done....