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  1. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    Oh no I've got other sources that prove you and the Rabbi are simply preaching the bitter, sore loser version of the lie of conservatism.

    RNC report suggests other reasons why Romney lost


    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/...t-suggests-other-reasons-why-romney-lost?lite
     
  2. Distant Lover

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    Republicans who think that Mitt Romney lost because he was not reactionary enough resemble those liberals and radicals who during and after 1968 advocated a third party on the left. They overestimate the appeal of what appeals to them.

    Right wing Republicans do not understand that an economy in which the rich get richer while the median income declines is toxic to what they desire.

    Lower taxes and less government is part of the traditional Republican wish list. There is no reason to believe that those policies would help most Americans during the Great Recession.

    Nor is there any reason to suppose that those policies would pay off the national debt, which only began to grow in terms of gross domestic product after the election of Ronald Reagan and the institution of supply side economics.
     
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  3. Deleted User kekw

    Deleted User kekw Porn Star Banned!

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    Is.....is this a compliment? :confused:
    No. Like I said, nobody on the left is as extreme as you like to portray them. How many people do you have agreeing with you now? I'd wager it's far fewer and far less often than when you were on the extreme right. Shit, you were a paragon to some on the right here....and that should scare you.

    I'm not familiar with the situation, but my guess:

    Conservatives like to run around saying liberals hate Israel and I've heard on more than one occasion that Obama hates Israel. This would then go further and suggest that Obama and Netanyahu weren't tight and that Israel does not like Obama's presidency and that the alliance is weaker because the ties were weaker.

    So of course the liberals cheer when, yet another, conservative talking point is proven incorrect.

    Liberals don't like the way Israel abuses its power. Things like settlements and the treatment of innocents is kind of offensive. So it's no wonder when you advocate the continuing of these abuses that you find little support...

    And extra support for Israel, when we already give them so much money? I think that's another thing you'll have issues with, at least on the left.


    ....and go figure you don't find support for genocide in palestine :rolleyes:
     
  4. stumbler

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    I have to agree that Clarise does a really terrible job of trying to imitate a liberal/progressive and remains an intellectual and academic fraud as well as a plastic bubble reactionary just babbling about things she/he/it doesn't even know.
     
  5. clarise

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    In what post, since the election, have I written that I want support for any of these things, or desire them for myself? That is a big assumption, don't you think?

    I counted on my fellow liberals to make that assumption, and they have not let me down.

    But in your case I confess I find myself mildly disappointed.
     
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    Uh, you just told me that you did:

     
  7. clarise

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    No.

    I'll grant you, the word (support) is in there.

    I am rallying my fellow Liberals and cheering them on in their support (military aid) to Israel. If I want anything, I suppose that I want them to see the logically inevitable outcome of their moral philosophy. I want them to see the outcome of the world that they have chosen for us. That does not mean I support (espouse/condone) it or want (desire) it for myself.

    The Republicans and Romney lost. President Obama won. A decisive victory. Why fight it? Why not flow with the river, to its inevitable destination?

    That the destination is inevitable does not mean I want to go there. We do not get to choose. The river carries us there regardless of our desires.

    As I said, this is an error I expected of everyone else. Not of you.
     
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  8. ace's n 8's

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    Yeppers,, you have fully transformed,,you have no idea who actually won..


    Obama is in full support of Israel fighting against the missile attacks into Israel,,,,,Does Obama support Israel,,,NO.....

    Does Obama support Hamas,,,,,,by all means he does..
     
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  9. clarise

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    I edited it, you lovable fool!

    Don't worry, Aces. I haven't lost my mind. But I'm not done yet, not by a longshot, so you are going to have to live with my topsy-turvy moonbat absurdity for quite awhile yet. Hold on for a bumpy ride. ;)
     
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    No.

    I'll grant you, the word (support) is in there.

    I am rallying my fellow Liberals and cheering them on in their support (military aid) to Israel. If I want anything, I suppose that I want them to see the logically inevitable outcome of their moral philosophy. I want them to see the outcome of the world that they have chosen for us. That does not mean I support (espouse/condone) it or want (desire) it for myself.

    The Republicans and Romney lost. President Obama won. A decisive victory. Why fight it? Why not flow with the river, to its inevitable destination?

    That the destination is inevitable does not mean I want to go there. We do not get to choose. The river carries us there regardless of our desires.

    As I said, this is an error I expected of everyone else. Not of you.
     
  11. Distant Lover

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    Saying that Romney lost because the voters have become lazy and self indulgent is like saying, "I went out of business because the customers in my area had poor taste."
     
  12. ace's n 8's

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    I find it comical,,you make awesome arguments when you want to be a member of the gun toting bible thumping capitalist...


    On the other hand,,,,,you are able to hold true form when you want to be a no fact base screaming moonbat leftist treehugging anti gun atheist yo-yo emotional gay rights fruit loop..
     
  13. clarise

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    +1

    Absolutely. Romney lost because he's a flip-flopper, a fraud, a weirdo Mormon with magic umderpants, a son of polygamists, a probable Mexican, a lying hypocrite, a should-be-felon, a most-likely-murderer, a poor manager, a horrible leader, and a neophyte on the world stage who doesn't know the first thing about international affairs. He is incompetent and he would have led us to disaster.

    Instead we have chosen to proceed and improve upon all of the successes of the past four years.
     
  14. tanglapper2

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    Fuck Off you communist POS
     
  15. clarise

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    No.

    I'll grant you, the word (support) is in there.

    I am rallying my fellow Liberals and cheering them on in their support (military aid) to Israel. If I want anything, I suppose that I want them to see the logically inevitable outcome of their moral philosophy. I want them to see the outcome of the world that they have chosen for us. That does not mean I support (espouse/condone) it or want (desire) it for myself.

    The Republicans and Romney lost. President Obama won. A decisive victory. Why fight it? Why not flow with the river, to its inevitable destination?

    That the destination is inevitable does not mean I want to go there. We do not get to choose. The river carries us there regardless of our desires.

    As I said, this is an error I expected of everyone else. Not of you.
     
  16. Distant Lover

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    Israel widens air assault in Gaza; credits 'Iron Dome' for shooting down rockets

    November 18, 2012 FoxNews.com

    The Israeli military pressed ahead with its aggressive offensive against Palestinian rocket operations Sunday, intercepting at least two rockets fired toward Tel Aviv with the country's new `Iron Dome' missile defense system...

    President Obama says Israel has a right to defend itself from missiles being aimed at the country by militants in the Gaza Strip.

    Obama says "no country on earth would tolerate missiles raining down" on its people and says any effort to resolve the conflict in Gaza "starts with no missiles being fired into Israel's territory."
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/1...aza-as-signs-mount-possible-israeli-invasion/

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    The initial funding and development of the Iron Dome system was provided and undertaken by Israel.[19] This allowed for the deployment of the first two Iron Dome systems.[20] Subsequently, funding for an additional eight Iron Dome systems - along with funding for a supply of interception missiles - is currently being provided by the United States, with two of these additional systems having been delivered by 2012.[20]

    Funding for the production and deployment of these additional Iron Dome batteries and interceptor missiles was approved by the United States Congress, after being requested by President Obama in 2010.[21] In May 2010, the White House announced that U.S. President Barack Obama would seek $205 million from U.S. Congress in his 2011 budget, to spur the production and deployment of additional Iron Dome batteries. White House spokesman Tommy Vietor stated, "The president recognizes the threat missiles and rockets fired by Hamas and Hezbollah pose to Israelis, and has therefore decided to seek funding from Congress to support the production of Israel's short range rocket defense system called Iron Dome."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome
     
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  17. ace's n 8's

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    As usual,, you fail to recognize the factual points,,unable to see the trees for the forest,,so to speak.
     
  18. clarise

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    Excellent copy/paste, DL. You show'em. Show'em with facts. These daffy right wing guntoting teabaggers really make me laugh, how about you?

    I'm laughing my ass off here at Aces and NatureBoy and all the other conservative plastic bubble blowhards, but I'm kind of pissed too at the way the lying teabaggers are besmirching President Obama all the time and trying to prove he doesn't give Israel his full support.

    You just proved with facts he gives full support to Israel, and when the ground invasion starts, we've got their backs with or without Speaker Bonehead and the conservative teabagger Congress.

    Bottom line: President Obama is a man of action, not of words.

    He supports gay marriage and always has and he's even said so. FACT. He supports immigration reform and he's even said so. FACT. He supports closing down Gitmo and getting the hell out of Afghanistan and he has plans for that stuff. FACT. He believes women should have tampons and prophylactics and stuff. FACT. He believes a mother has the right to choose to snuff out whatever comes out of her body as long as the umbilical cord is still attached, because everyone deserves a seat at the table of the American Dream. FACT. He believes in a strong military because we have ships and planes and ships on planes and we don't need bayonets and horses anymore. FACT. He is against the Fiscal Cliff and he's gonna fix it with or without Speaker Bonehead and all his backwards thinking antiprogressive ideas. FACT.

    DL, I am sick and tired of all these lies about President Obama. I've had it up to here.
     
  19. ace's n 8's

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    Stick around awhile,,because I'll assure you,,you will hear and read more facts about Obama lying his fucking ass off to the American people,,,that you can count on.

    The lying bastard supports Hamas and the Muslim brotherhood,, he does not support Bebe..
     
  20. spjames

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    Just like a conservitard. Get proven wrong then move on to more lies. Next week we'll be back the previous weeks lies. Repeat ad nauseam.