BUT you do NOT know what percentage of the crime figure was committed by Blacks or Whites...

When you do, THEN you can post more accurate data.

ALSO where are the figures to back up your claim about adopted children's I.Q. levels???

 

I'd like to know why Gabon's murder rate is 4 times higher than Mozambique's if we assume that the level of murders by blacks is equal.

 

It may be that the compiling of crime statistics in Gabon is more accurate than in Mozambique.

A number of factors influence the murder rate of a country. Russia has a murder rate as high as Mexico, which has several of the most dangerous cities in the world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-2012-10?op=1

North Korea has a murder rate that is even higher than Russia and Mexico. Nevertheless, countries that are nearly all white or Oriental usually have a much lower crime rate than countries in sub Saharan Africa or Latin America.

 

You are really scratching the bottom of the barrel for an argument. Do you expect anyone to believe that the high rate of murder and rape in South Africa is caused by rampaging whites who commit those crimes against law abiding blacks?

 

Never said that...READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN...

You post figures that give TOTAL crime rates from different countries, WITHOUT a breakdown to give percentage of crime committed by Whites and Blacks, and YOU expect US to believe that EVERY country where Blacks live the high crime rate is because of them..

Like I said, go back and find out figures to give the percentages of which crimes were committed by which race, before spouting off again that Blacks are the reason for a countrys high murder rate.

 

It may also be that the White population in Gabon is more violent than the Blacks in Mozambique.

Does that mean that there is the same number of Blacks in Russia as there is in Mexico, but North Korea has more.

 

It may be that the compiling of crime statistics in Mozambique is more accurate than that of Gabon! The fact that it is four times higher would suggest, however, that there is a massive difference. Yes, DL, there are a number of factors controlling the murder rate of a country, and the colour of someone's skin is not one of them. As the police would say, it's circumstantial evidence.

And if the reliability of these statistics is suspect what is the point in you referring to them?

And you didn't answer whether you think it is acceptable that blacks receive more severe sentences than whites for similar crimes.

 

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I guess that means YOU CANNOT answer the questions put to you, and YOU CANNOT find ANY evidence to back up your ridiculous claim about the I.Q. levels of adopted children..

GROW UP, and STOP posting such utter racist bullshit.

 

I couldn't find a study between the DC-Prince George migration in regards to said topic, but I do have some other studies and statistics to show you. I had to do math, and I hate doing math, so I hope you'll at least appreciate it. For those of you reading just for the hell of it, this will most likely be a long explanation. You have been warned.

There was a social experiment done in 1972 by John Calhoun regarding the societal effects of mice living in a utopia referred to as Universe 25. Before anyone decides to jump on the fact that the experiment has to do with mice and not humans and can therefore not have any similar foundation, mice and humans (including most other mammals) tend to have the same number of nucleotides in their genetic makeup. There is an ranged 70-90% similarity between the two species, and mice commonly used for science are within the upper percentile for similarity. Most of the difference ranges from subtle to drastic genotypic differences (simply speaking, look at a mouse compared to a human and you'll notice there are a few anatomical disparities. Also note that I said anatomical and not physiological differences. Mammals generally follow very similar physiology).

Anyway. The environment was meant to be set up like a city, a utopian city. There are no external threats, no diseases. The environment is kept at 68F (the structure is also cleaned regularly) and everything (clean water, healthy food) is provided at an unlimited amount. The holding tank was a spacious 101 square inches with various tunnels and such (for details go to the second link) that could comfortably hold 1000 mice.

Growth began to slow at a capacity of 600 mice. Nature was struggling to regulate itself. Eventually the capacity reached 2200 mice, and the society collapsed. Overpopulation caused irreparable psychological damage to the mice, manifested by their horrendous actions. Most of the mice turned on each other; cannibalism, sexual aberrancy, and extreme violence became common. While most of the mice were either eating, raping, or killing one another, a small percentage of mice (the "Beautiful Ones") occupied themselves with grooming, eating, and sleeping; until they died from complacency (think literal death by gluttony and sloth). With the passive sloths refusal to reproduce, the only viable mates were the corrupted mice obsessed with killing and eating each other. Reproduction ceased, the environment could no longer regulate itself, and Universe 25 experienced it's own little apocalypse in under 2 years. Oh, and for some of you inquisitive readers, you may be wondering why the particular experiment was deemed "Universe 25." Well, that's because it was the 25th time the experiment was run. That's right, Calhoun ran 24 "utopias" prior to this particular one, trying to crack down and really perfect the environment. What's that, you want to know what happened to the previous mice cities? Well, they socially imploded, all of them. Their ruins came about in virtually the same manner as the 25th city.

Now, many of you (ok I'll be honest, the very few of you who are actually still reading this) may be wondering what this has to do with human society in relation to the assertions that black people are statistically more violent? Well, according to the 2010 Consensus, African Americans account for about 13% of the entire population in the USA. Of that 13%, about 60% live in metropolitan areas (urban core of at least 50000 people). As DL so kindly pointed out in an earlier post, African Americans tend to most densely populate some of the most dangerous cities. However, the most dangerous cities tend to be some of the most densely populated cities in general, with a handful of them having populations of over 1 million people. So about 60% of an entire ethnic group lives in about 3% of the total US land area.

Taking what we know from Calhoun's experiment, we can quite certainly affirm that densely populated areas are environmentally dangerous to those that live in them. They wreak havoc on one's psychological framework and corrupts the society into promoting the aforementioned actions. Wait, so that means that the population develops a culture of violence and moral wrongdoings, doesn't it? Well, if you take the definition of culture as "the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern of what is regarded as excellent" or "the behaviors or belief characteristics of a certain social, age, or ethnic group" then it can be logically deduced that densely and overpopulated areas promote a culture of vile behavior. Since the majority of black people live in densely or overpopulated areas, it can be said that the regions themselves promote an immoral culture in the majority of a particular ethnic group. Therefore, environment ultimately dictates the actions of a person.

For those of you who read through all of the above, thank you, because it was a very long read (and an even longer write). For those of you who skimmed through it, I don't blame you and completely understand. For those of you who want to read more, I have some miscellaneous writings below the link that address DL's posts.

For more information on the experiment's particulars, here are some links:

http://www.mostlyodd.com/death-by-utopia/

http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/42/wiles.php

Misc.

In regards to what you said earlier about black people committing less heinous crimes of violence; that would mean that they would receive a lesser sentence. Your statistics don't account for repeat offenders. That means that you're reporting a fallacy in the percentage of African Americans committing crimes. So what you're actually stating is a misrepresentation of the group's crime rate, which can only mean that your statistics can be applied to the actions of individuals.

Oh and here's another fun tidbit of information; according to Lewontin's research there is more genetic variance within racial groups than between them. This would make sense considering a population's ability to survive usually depends on variance.

 

Rather than repeat your entire quote I will summarize it. An experiment was done with mice to test the effects of over population. Once the population density of mice reached a certain level the mice began to turn on each other.

The assumption drawn from this experiment is that high rates of black urban crime can be attributed to over population.

Nevertheless, in the United States cities with small black populations nearly always have low crime rates. Although China and Japan have higher population densities than nearly all predominately black countries, they have much lower crime rates.

 

But Russia has the same rate as Mexico, without the percentage of Blacks.

 

Russia and North Korea are interesting exceptions to the rule. They do not disprove the rule that there is a very high correlation between the racial composition of a country and the murder rate.

Both of these exceptions require further study. I attribute the high murder rate of Russia to the social dislocations that followed the fall of Communism. The high murder rate in North Korea may be due to the low standard of living. Nevertheless, the standard of living in South Korea was much lower immediately after the Korean War. The same can be said of Japan after the Second World War. I do not believe that South Korea and Japan had high murder rates then.

 

BUT have you any figures that show the percentage breakdown of individual crimes by race?

Because until you do, all your spouting off is just pissing in the wind.

 

Any exception to a rule disproves the rule.

 

That's a gross underestimation of what I said, but you also aren't refuting it. So basically I'm going to take that as a sign that you agree that a large part of criminal activity can be the product of environment.

You make excuses for China, Japan, and South Korea. Yet Africa is a continent that has a fair amount of regime changes, military coups, wars, etc. So if the other countries can be excused for post war strife, why can't Africa? Oh, and while Russia may have become "more dangerous" post communism, isn't it also just as likely that it was always "dangerous" but statistics were fudged under the rule of communism? That being said, China is currently under the rule of communism (though economically they've truly embraced capitalism). They currently lead the world in reported executions per year (by quite a large amount). While just speculation, would I be wrong in saying that China's crime statistics could be inaccurate based on their current system?

Also, you're leaving a huge factor out of all of this; culture. Culture can deem what is acceptable and unacceptable, and influences everyone who is a part of it (and even those who aren't). Culture is a component of environment, and therefore can't be global. To say that countries are culturally similar is a statement of such ridiculous falsity that it won't ever be taken seriously. To say that China is culturally comparable to America is comparable to South Africa is an outright lie.

 

Not really. Some days in spring are colder than some days in winter. Some days in spring are warmer than some days in summer. Nevertheless, the average temperature in spring is warmer than the average temperature in winger, and the average temperature in spring is cooler than the average temperature in summer.

 

Not if you live in some areas of England, where the temperature can be the same all year round.

 

You're too stupid to answer DL. You don't understand the terms science, truth, data, fact, theory, exception

You're so stupid you must be white...

 

Not sure if this was aimed at me, as the subject of any sentence is usually in first place. :excited::excited: