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cijababe · Feb 26, 2013

Here's a link to the article I read recently about how inaccurate the calorific measuring of food can be.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ntists-say-8500122.html?origin=internalSearch

And in case the link doesn't work outside the UK, here it is

Food manufacturers and government agencies have consistently misled consumers over many years about the number of calories contained in food, nutritional experts said today.

Calorie-counting people trying to lose weight do not realise that the official system for assessing the caloric value of food is seriously flawed and incapable of providing accurate estimates of the amount of energy in a product, they said.

Food companies for instance do not take into account the caloric value of fibre in food with the effect that some high-fibre foods which are sold as low in calories may actually contain, in the extreme, up to 25 per cent more calories than the label suggests.

It means that some high-fibre foods targeted at people on a diet are actually more fattening than people are led to believe, said Geoffrey Livesey, an independent nutritionist based in Britain who has advised the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation.

“The problem is the system did not consider fibre, but it has a big impact on the variance of energy content in food. What the old system gave us is a very general calorific value,” Dr Livesey said.

“In Britain, we have not assigned a value for fibre, so calorie counts have normally been lower - on average around five per cent of energy in food is fibre,” Dr Livesey told the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Boston.

“So consumers have been eating more calories than they thought they were, particularly if the food was high-fibre. When people eat muesli, it is a healthy food but they are often putting on lots of weight,” he told the meeting.

Consumers have been unknowingly consuming extra calorie in high-fibre food for decades because the system for assessing calories goes back to the 1970s and even earlier. It means that if people follow the daily recommended intake of 18 grams of fibre, they could be consuming more than 250 extra calories each week without realising it, Dr Livesey said.

Under new European guidelines, overseen by the Department of Health and the Food Standards Agency, food companies are being asked to make more accurate assessments of calories but it is unclear how many are doing so, he said.

It is not only the presence of fibre that has upset the calorie estimates. Scientists have known for many years that the calorie counts on food labels do not take into account the energy expended by the body in eating and digesting a particular type of food, said Richard Wrangham of Harvard University.

Government assessments about the amount of energy in food assume that the caloric value is the same whether the food it cooked or raw, but scientists know that raw food provides fewer calories because the body expends energy breaking it down, Professor Wrangham said.

“We are talking about at least a difference of between 10 and 30 per cent. So eating raw food is a good way to lose weight, but you need to be careful about it long-term and it would not be advisable in children,” he said.

“There is a lot of misinformation around calories, and it is crucial for the consumer, whether they are on a diet or not, to have the correct information about what they eat,” he told the meeting.

“These problems have been recognized by specialists for many years but have been regarded as insufficiently important to warrant a change in the way that food value is assessed. As a result the public is given erroneous information about the energy value of many foods,” he added.

“The public is thus misled.”

Counting calories
Calorie counts on food labels are based on a system developed by Wilbur Olin Atwater, a late-19th-century American chemist. Under the Atwater system, carbohydrates and protein average 4 kcal per gram, while fat provides 9 kcal per gram. Fibre was assumed to pass through the body without being digested, but soluble fibre and other constituents of fibre can be broken down in the gut to release energy. In some respects, the Atwater system overestimates the number of calories provided in food by not taking into account the energy needed to break the food down during digestion.

The Atwater system is more accurate when considering the calorific value of highly digestible food, such as white bread. But it is less accurate with other kinds of high-fibre food, such as wholewheat pasta and dried figs.
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cijababe · Feb 27, 2013

When I'm on my regime, Wednesday is usually the lowest point weightwise - so I'm going to be indulgent and take this mornings' reading - meaning that this week I've actually lost 2lb, not one - which brings me under the stone mark. Happy me!

ridgerunner · Feb 27, 2013

and to think most people have wednesday as humpday
either way slaintia
never give up on wgat you want you can be queen if you are determined

cijababe · Feb 27, 2013

Thanks Ridgerunner - I had a nasty shock at the garage today and am sorely tempted to comfort eat/drink. Managing OK so far..........

AZRIEL · Feb 28, 2013

RandyKnight · Feb 28, 2013

I just saw this on the news and then found it on you tube...
the 5/2 diet...it is only about 3 min to watch and interesting...
lose a pound a week...easy..

sorry if this is already on this thread as I have not been reading it..

[YOUTUBE]YAJt-kjffdo[/YOUTUBE]

here is an article about it

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyl...-it-help-you-lose-weight-and-live-longer.html

BeastlySoul · Feb 28, 2013

Good video Randy. Basically, the idea of the 5:2 is just having two low calorie days vs five moderate-high calorie days.

Intermittent Fasting (IF) is a useful tool if you use it properly. Make sure the days aren't consecutive and you implement no more than 2 (absolute maximum of 3) IF days per week. But the principal behind it is that you place the body into a brief ketogenic state, and in the afternoon/evening a normal or slightly larger meal is eaten. This tricks the person into thinking they've eaten a normal day's worth of food while reaping the benefits of a low calorie day.

One of the best words of advice I've seen is, "Follow success, because success leaves clues." Honestly, if you want the most comprehensive articles on purely fat loss (fat loss with muscle preservation) I'd recommend reading up on what bodybuilders and nutritionists write. Nate Miyaki has some great writings for fat loss and has the body to back it up.

RandyKnight · Feb 28, 2013

BeastlySoul said: ↑

Good video Randy. Basically, the idea of the 5:2 is just having two low calorie days vs five moderate-high calorie days.

Intermittent Fasting (IF) is a useful tool if you use it properly. Make sure the days aren't consecutive and you implement no more than 2 (absolute maximum of 3) IF days per week. But the principal behind it is that you place the body into a brief ketogenic state, and in the afternoon/evening a normal or slightly larger meal is eaten. This tricks the person into thinking they've eaten a normal day's worth of food while reaping the benefits of a low calorie day.

One of the best words of advice I've seen is, "Follow success, because success leaves clues." Honestly, if you want the most comprehensive articles on purely fat loss (fat loss with muscle preservation) I'd recommend reading up on what bodybuilders and nutritionists write. Nate Miyaki has some great writings for fat loss and has the body to back it up.
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Thanks and as to the ketogenic state you talked about I am up on the subject from Atkins No Carb diets I have used in the past...

here is a good explanation for those that care...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180858.php

when the body is in ketosis the individual tends to feel less hungry, and will probably eat less than he/she might otherwise do. The body switches from being a carbohydrate-burning organism into a fat-burning one. The fat stores become a primary energy source, and the person loses weight. That is why low-carb diets have become popular, and effective, especially among obese people.
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cijababe · Feb 28, 2013

Thanks Randy, I had seen the programme but haven't tried it as what I'm doing is working for me. On the WW system you have a daily allowance that you must eat, and a weekly allowance to use as you wish - I try to have as many non indulgent days as I can, and let go a little more at the weekend. Sometimes I will have a day on which I forget counting altogether, but don't go over the top.

In the past I've fasted on various retreats - but that was total 'no eating' fasts which actually are pretty damn simple, and not that difficult once you get into it. What's hard is coming off the fast - I have never found anyone who can give good advice on how to break a fast properly.

RandyKnight · Mar 1, 2013

cijababe said: ↑

Thanks Randy, I had seen the programme but haven't tried it as what I'm doing is working for me. On the WW system you have a daily allowance that you must eat, and a weekly allowance to use as you wish - I try to have as many non indulgent days as I can, and let go a little more at the weekend. Sometimes I will have a day on which I forget counting altogether, but don't go over the top.

In the past I've fasted on various retreats - but that was total 'no eating' fasts which actually are pretty damn simple, and not that difficult once you get into it. What's hard is coming off the fast - I have never found anyone who can give good advice on how to break a fast properly.
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Heck it did not even sound like a real fast to me cause on those days he had scrambled eggs and ham for breakfast and Veggies for dinner...

AZRIEL · Mar 1, 2013

cijababe · Mar 3, 2013

no temptation there Az - I don't do burgers or fast food

I'm having a bit of a rebound - the scales are showing a slight gain, and it's getting much harder. I feel hungry a lot of the time

meforyou · Mar 3, 2013

cijababe said: ↑

no temptation there Az - I don't do burgers or fast food

I'm having a bit of a rebound - the scales are showing a slight gain, and it's getting much harder. I feel hungry a lot of the time
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From what I've seen of you, Mistress, you are just perfect as you are. :rose:

Jamie90 · Mar 3, 2013

awww I know how you feel Cija...I hit a plateau, but today when I went on the scale it was again one kilo less! Now I am actually back to my weight when I was 15 or so :excited: yay!

Its gonna be tough though! I am gonna go on a holiday with friends for 5 days...I prolly won´t be able to hold my diet, but I hope I won´t gain any weight at least!

BeastlySoul · Mar 3, 2013

cijababe said: ↑

no temptation there Az - I don't do burgers or fast food

I'm having a bit of a rebound - the scales are showing a slight gain, and it's getting much harder. I feel hungry a lot of the time
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Just thought I'd ask; how long have you been following a (relatively) strict low calorie diet? Also, how often do you exercise and what types of exercise do you do?

cijababe · Mar 3, 2013

I've been following the WW system for 8 weeks. I'll PM you about exercise.

InTheMindsEye · Mar 3, 2013

I've been on a high alcohol, high carb and high fat diet but I just can NOT shift those pounds!!! WTF am I doing wrong???

cijababe · Mar 3, 2013

InTheMindsEye said: ↑

I've been on a high alcohol, high carb and high fat diet but I just can NOT shift those pounds!!! WTF am I doing wrong???
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Plainly you are not getting enough sex

InTheMindsEye · Mar 3, 2013

cijababe said: ↑

Plainly you are not getting enough sex
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Nothing could be further from an outright lie....so what are you going to do about it Cija? Huh? What?

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