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  1. Yaztromo

    Yaztromo Lend me some sugar, I am your neighbour!

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    That's a tad cynical. That assumes all politicians are in it for themselves and would say anything to get elected.

    OMG - did I just say that? I'm sorry. I think I went slightly mad for a second there. Apologies, I'll be believing in unicorns next! :eek:

    Forget politicians, they are all on the gravy train looking to get famous and rich. I'll restrict myself to the ethics of the policies I think.
     
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  2. PatronofPorn

    PatronofPorn Porn Fairy's Apprentice

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    Churches are not charities.
     
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  3. Starsa

    Starsa Sex Machine

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    Boom.
     
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  4. Yaztromo

    Yaztromo Lend me some sugar, I am your neighbour!

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    :excited::excited::excited:​
     
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  5. deviousdave

    deviousdave Title request rejected

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    Their tax exempt status says otherwise.
     
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  6. PatronofPorn

    PatronofPorn Porn Fairy's Apprentice

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    I don't know the circumstances in England, but in the US that's not the primary reason for that. The main reason for churches being exempt from taxes here is because taxation of churches is seen as oppressive governmental involvement in religion.

    Many churches do charitable work. I'd be a liar and a fool to say that they didn't. However, many churches, such as my old one, do not practice charity in any sense of the word. To say church automatically equals charity just isn't true.

    I don't know the exact revenue of my church, but it made enough to finance a multimillion dollar expansion over three years, pay our two pastors an average salary of $60,000 + every year, and operate a yearly bible summer camp. Our church did nothing in the community whatsoever. The only act of outside involvement was one or two missionary trips to Africa every year. And unlike secular charities, such as the Red Cross, that are required by the government to provide the government with records of how they're spending their income, churches aren't required to document anything. Once you're granted recognition as a church, you're off to the races.
     
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  7. daverjax

    daverjax Porn Star Suspended!

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    looking at Libtards like Yaz, and the general state of Europe(declineing into a Muslim run Islamic Republic), one can SEE the MISTAKE that "Socialistic Liberalism" IS.....

    or as Dr.Michael Savage says; "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
     
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  8. tim929

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    Interestingly, a majority of wealthy people identify themselves as liberal rather than conservative. Conservatives tend to say, as you said, "its a level playing field" and that the poor just didn't try hard enough. Liberals on the other hand talk of compassion and generosity but in the end are just as protective of their wealth as conservatives. When it comes to being generous with other peoples money for example...that means tax money, liberals spend it quite generously on a host of personal pet projects that greatly benefit their friends. Conservatives on the other hand spend tax money quite generously on pet projects that greatly benefit their friends. Do you see the difference? Conservatives spend tax money on their friends while liberals spend tax money on their friends. That's the fundamental difference between them. As for their personal money, they hold onto it as if their very lives depended upon it and have no problem telling people to go fuck themselves when real generosity using their own money is suggested.

    All liberal politicians and all conservative politicians will profess to the ends of the earth their deep belief that deficit spending is wrong. And yet, we have deficits. Do you see a pattern here? Its called BULL SHIT. Now wake up and smell the coffee. They are all a bunch of worthless, lying fucks that should be tarred and feathered and run out of town and replaced by monkeys in little suits.
     
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  9. ridgerunner

    ridgerunner gardener of stone

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    lets see if liberals spend tax money on friends and conservatives spend tax money on friends then liberals are conservatives and conservatives are liberals?
    you need to look deeper into the wasy and places that they spend our tax dollars
    liberals tend to spend more on social based projects like welfare for the poor and illegal while conservatives spend it on the massively over profiting banks and industries
    conservatives believe that the poor didnt do enough because they are poor and liberals say thet they are poor because society failed them
    both are right to a point

    of the people i graduated from highschool with most work deadend jobs, 2 work for me, and about 30 have killed themselves
    3 of us own oyr own comapnies and are seeing success

    im not on either side because while both are right at times they are also wrong most times

    we do need imigration reform in the effect that it should be restricted
    we cannot afford to allow millions of people to imigrate without some form of control, we cannot afford to keep spending money to pay for their healthcare when they will not pay taxes to support the system

    the thought of continuous aid for foreign nations is the recipie for disaster
    the more we fund them while failing to secure our own future is the exact deffinition of stupidity
    continuing to allow other nations to export products to the US instead of developing the needed resources here is ignrance
    it is no longer a cheaper principal to manufacture products overseas because the labor rates and the cost of transporting those goods has increased
    and last i recall approximately 82% of all new job growth in america has come from small businesses
    hell i have 2 new positions open for experinced cattle hands
     
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  10. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Wealthy conservative philanthropists also give millions of dollars to right wing think tanks that advocate policies that make the rich richer.
     
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  11. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Gallup March 11, 2013

    One-third of the nation's "1%" identify themselves as Republicans, 41% as independents, and 26% as Democrats...

    Among the very wealthy, 39% say their political views are conservative, 41% call themselves moderate, and 20% liberal.
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/151310/u.s.-republican-not-conservative.aspx
     
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  12. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    From the presidencies of Harry Truman to Jimmy Carter the national debt was paid down in terms of per capita gross domestic product. During Bill Clinton's second term the national debt was paid down in absolute terms.

    The national debt grew to its present size because of Ronald Reagan's delusion that tax cuts generate more tax revenue than tax increases, and that it is acceptable to cut taxes while raising defense spending.
     
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  13. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I believe that genes are more important than anything else in determining not only ability levels, but also personality and character. This pushes me in both directions politically. On the one hand I think social welfare spending and social reform cannot solve social problems caused by personal inadequacies. I am skeptical of untested social and economic experiments.

    On the other, I see little moral significance in the distribution of wealth and income. The rich are not better people than the rest of us. They were fortunate enough to be born with rich parents, and/or good genes.
     
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  14. Baddog_WOOF

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    Germany has a trade surplus with China.
    Now, go back to whining about liberals since you have no original ideas.
     
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  15. ace's n 8's

    ace's n 8's Porn Star

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    http://www.mtgriffith.com/web_documents/taxcutmyths.htm
     
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  16. Baddog_WOOF

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    I think hating for people for being rich is just as contemptible as hating people for being poor.
    Characterizing all wealthy people as evil is just as foolish as characterizing all poor people as saints.

    Has it ever crossed your mind that life might be unfair?
     
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  17. umpire2

    umpire2 Share-Man of the Board

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    I almost peed myself laughing so hard.

    I need to frame this one.

    Ace's produces a chart that shows when Democrats are in office, REVENUES INCREASE and SPENDING GOES DOWN 100% OF THE TIME

    and

    When Republicans are in office, REVENUES DECREASE and SPENDING GOES UP 100% OF THE TIME!

    Priceless!
     
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  18. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Germany is the only EU nation which comes close to a historical trade surplus with China. But even that is tenuous. The growth of engineered goods to China has slowed, while the growth of imports of finished goods from China is increasing rapidly. The Chinese needed the Germany precision machinery to produce goods, now they are copying the equipment, much like Japan did in the 70's. Autos remain a strong export item to China.

    In 2011 the balance of trade was tilted €14 billion in China's favor. Not a trade surplus for Germany.
     
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  19. Geraldo

    Geraldo Porn Star Suspended!

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    you are fucking disgusting if you are really an englishman. :mad:

    if you are japanese then i will forgive you but where do i begin with you and your post? just a psychological view on the human mind huh, what are you a wiseguy eh?
     
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  20. Geraldo

    Geraldo Porn Star Suspended!

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    oh is it really daverjax, is it really? you probably hang out over there at stormfront don't you. how can i come to understand how you feel about other races? there must be a button to push here somewhere to bury those thoughts.
     
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