Alright time to voice my bitch opinions that everyone's gonna hate but IDGAF.


I want a guy who's not gonna bitch about being a nice guy that's "friendzoned."
If you're a nice guy only to get sex or relationship out of a girl then you're not a nice guy. You shouldn't expect every girl to want to be with you just because you're "nice." I also think that these "nice guys" tend to go for beauty queens most of the time and don't actually pay attention to average looking girls that could possibly do more for them. I roll my eyes every time I hear a "nice guy" bitch about how all women are bitches or how all women can't decide what they want and they always go for jerk, douchebag guys. Have you ever thought those are the the kind of girls YOU'RE choosing? Perhaps YOU'RE the problem. Maybe, just MAYBE you don't make appropriate decisions and just go for a girl looks great on paper but will treat you like shit nonetheless. There are plenty of "nice girls" out there who aren't getting attention from guys because they're so average looking or aren't your cup of tea. But you don't think of that, you only think that ALL girls you've met can't decide what they want so you're just helpless. I've met plenty of actual nice guys who were hurt by women and then grew the fuck up and started looking for girls beyond physical attributes and started actually looking into their hearts. If you blame all women for being single, then you're not a nice guy. Look within you and look at the girls you've been choosing. Just for fucking once. And tell me how it goes.

:roll:

 

Women don't know what they want, don't want ask them.

Women want a guy to charge, a real manly man who can fuck their brains. It also goes without saying they don't want a jerk who'll blow them off and go play cards with their friends...most of the time. You can get away with it every couple of months or so, but don't make a habit of it.

All the rest depends on the particular woman, which you can figure out as you go along.

 

So you're saying one needs a professional job that requires them to have a degree, as long as its a bachelor's degree or above, then they can finally sleep with women ? Are you dumb ? Its not like a random bitch is going to ask you for your resume right after you slide your condom on, do you realize how stupid that sounds ?

You dont need shit, you just got to get off your ass and be a REAL man, that is what women want, a REAL MAN that doesn't need to prove shit to anybody. Besides who in the right mind is gonna sit around until someone feels sorry for them ? If you want something then go out and get it, whoever does that shit does not deserve any pussy at all, all you fuckboys and sorry ass males should start wearing a skirt and cry yourselves to sleep. MAN UP goddammit.

Exactly, and to the OP why the fuck would you want any advice from women ? You have to take the initiative, you're the man, don't ever ask no bitch about what you should or should not do. Who does that ? That is guaranteed faliure and its gonna send you straight to the so called 'friendzone' where you deserve to be.

You know why ? If not then ask yourself what makes you any different from any of her female friends except the fact that you dont have a gap between your legs ? Men get put in the friend zone because they come off acting like sissies, they come of acting like girlfriends. All men have value, and they need to show it, elitism is in our nature so never ever get mad at a woman or call her shallow because of her ability to judge and pick what is best for her. Women are not shallow in 2013, they never been, they just got more conservative with their choices over the years due to the large number of fake males that don't even know what being a REAL MAN is about, if they dont then who will ? dont ask for a woman to lead you and then wonder why you're not getting any.

If you're fucking a girl with little to no self esteem then it means you're on the same level and you dont deserve anything more than that. Good point. But how bout telling him to do something about it instead of bitching around and settling for less ? MAN UP once more

 

i want a guy who'll grow alongside me. someone who realizes people have to change to remain happy. i don't want to settle down anywhere i want to be able to leave our city with him and know wherever we are we'll have a good time because love overrides everything. he's gotta be my best friend before we have sex. as of now i'm single and fucking some guys on the side. if a guy came up to me and started flirting i think i'd want him to realize i was an interesting person and be curious about what makes me tick, per se, genuine interest i guess. passion for sure.

 

WRONG !!!!

i am NOT bitching. we do look at " AVERAGE GIRLS ". but, they have
( IMO ) tendency to be shy or nervous when a guy approach them, as a
possible mate. us men, choose women by their hearts.

( i know i do )

i also look at the types of girls i have been approaching too. they have a
tendency to be WITHDRAWN, and tend to look in another direction,
when your trying to have a friendly/platonic conversation with them too.

if i am talking to you, i expect an answer. NOT shrugging your shoulders
up/down, and NOT giving a SOLID FUCKING ANSWER, so i won't have to
play a game of CHARADES to figure you/them out.

is that asking for too much ?.

 

LOL

not sure what country your from. but, that's how the women are, in a
major metropolitan cities are. go on YOUTUBE, and you will see posted
footage from talk shows, amateurs, & news footage dealing with this.

no offense but, your walking around with " BLINDERS " on.

career women MARRY UP, " NOT " DOWN. it's a known fact. women want
you on their level when it comes to career, salary, & status. PERIOD

when i said, find a woman with little or no self-esteem, i meant you
probably have a better chance " IF " they were to open up and talk.

NOT TO take advantage of, for your own pleasure. i also never said
women were shallow. if anything, their the one's on talk shows.

how often do you see men on talk shows, talking about CAN'T FIND a
good woman ?.

HELL, if anything, the women are the one's talking about

NON-COMMITMENT, CHEATING, VARIOUS ADDICTIONS, WOMANIZING,

NON-AFFECTIONATE & etc.

trust me. i dealt with women, who cry the BLUES to the NICE GUYS all
the time. they pour their souls & sob stories to the NICE GUYS, and
want them to have all the answers. they hear the NICE GUY out.

but, as ALWAYS, tend to go right back, to the same old tire-some
routine. as a bonus, they play mind games too. they will say shit like :

" maybe i am giving up the pussy, to the wrong guy ". " maybe i should
give you some ". BULLSHIT. i/we NICE GUYS, know this will NEVER
happen. i have a PLATONIC FRIEND, who would talk that DUMB SHIT
alot of women do, and NEVER go through with it.

oh, but wait. when your DUMPED by your boo, your sad, depress, lonely,
feel used/abused ( mentally, sexually ), you/they call the NICE GUYS to
get together and pour soul out to him, over dinner/movie, and go back
to her place to chill, just to have a man " aka "

SUCKER OF A NICE GUY/FRIEND, to feel in that TEMPORARY VOID, of a
man NOT being around to keep her company for the time being.

later on, she's ready to show you out, thanking you for a LOVELY " aka "
SUCKER OF AN ASS EVENING, ON YOUR FUCKING DOLLAR. she ask you
to call her when you get home.

when you do call, her response is, " i just wanted to make sure you got
home safe that's all. " good night ". ( SHE HANGS PHONE UP )

it's all about ATTENTION & MONEY BEING SPENT ON THEM.

THAT'S ALL.

nothing else matters. just their SELF GRATIFICATION NEEDS

 

So you're just like the women you're bitching about! Because you don't want a woman who is a bit withdrawn and you happen to think the rest of them want a black guy with a big dick. What the fuck do you want?

I've realized one thing and that is that most people have a certain personality to them. Not all, but most. And if you take the time to actually know them, then you'll find a pretty awesome person inside. I'm talking about those that you think are so withdrawn. You know why they're withdrawn? Because asshole guys like you never pay attention and they don't have the experience to know how to get along with a guy they like. And if you do pay attention, you get bored fast because they're not as spontaneous and know how to draw a guy in like the other girls you talk about.

So make up your goddamn mind. You're just as wrong as the girls you bitch about.

Learn how to work hard for a girl (who's worth it) instead of the perfect bitch landing on your lap.

 

Beautifully expressed and I couldn't agree more as my statements have proven throughout my visits to XNXX that all the plaster and paint in the world does not make a great woman and I've always chose the average girl who was "real". I'm sure there's enough women who's "perfection" have a good reason but, I found them to be "too good" which to me translates into more work just keeping myself in their eyes. The sex I can always wait for and I've tried not to allow my dick to outweigh my beliefs in establishing a solid relationship over a "sure thing" or "easy women" who worry more about the size of my dick and the depth of my wallet, loved your reply Dalia!

 

LOL

WRONG AGAIN

your so way off course, " NOT " even the world's sophisticated
technology by NASA, NSA, DOD, DIA, can help steer you back on course.

F.Y.I. , the " PLATONIC FRIEND " i was referring to, i/we have known
each other for almost " 13/14 " years now. withdrawn is NOT it.
she is like alot of women out there. you say, you know what you want.

BUT, if it doesn't meet your EXPECTATIONS, you either don't want it or,
become disappointed with the results. alot of women play mind games &
JUST LOVE TO MISLEAD US MEN. or, just entice us to

SPEND MONEY ON YOU. i do listen to her heart. as well, the hearts of
some of my other female colleague's & the women at the
HAIR CUTTERY, where i get my hair cut.

they to, say i should write a book or, speak to these women out here,
to help them get on track & listen to a woman.

plus, believe it or not, the women i work with come to me, NOT the
other way around and ask for my opinion and/or advice when it comes to
their man.

remember this, WOMEN are the one's with the BIOLOGICAL TIME CLOCK,
not us men. in fact, when my platonic friend called me, " unexpectedly "
we spoke for roughly an hour making small talk.

i was saying how i wanted to take a trip to HAWAII. responded back with,
she wanted to go to HAWAII too. i chose to ignore her response and
changed the subject. this is the same woman, who suggested about a
year or two ago that, we should go on " vacation " together, and " HELP "

each other find a " MATE ". LOL. why do i need to take a friend,

" a female friend " at that, on vacation to find a woman ?. she said
pretty much the same thing, about gong out to a restaurant/lounge
place too.

AGAIN, why do ( or would ) a woman suggest such a thing, as a friend ?.
to go out and find each other a mate. REALLY !!.

if someone saw us together, they will think we're together.

NOT JUST FRIENDS

why waste my money on a woman, who wants someone to foot the bill ?.
if your not about me, why have me waste my time, money, and
anything else in the process.

if i was " EYE CANDY " as you women like to use, and we went to an
EXOTIC vacation spot, you would not have any hang ups. but, if your
just a " friend ", your basically set up to be hurt, used, and left empty
handed and considered a " generous nice friend ", for taking them on an

EXPENSIVE VACATION. yeah ok, you women got the wrong one here.

this how my friend is. almost every guy she meets, she tends to LOSE
them in matter month's. part of the problem she is moody at times,
runs her mouth & don't shut up long enough to listen, she thinks she

has to have the last word in everything, her way is right, love nice things,
wants a man to give her money WITHOUT any hidden intentions from doing so, to be taken out when she's bored & lonely, doesn't pay people back.

the funny thing is, like alot of women do with this mistake.

give up the PUSSY TOO SOON. she will know a guy for about 2 months,
sleep with them and say, the guy is in love with them. next thing you
know, the guy starts acting all funny to her, they argue and break up.

then, she calls me and cry the blues & wants to go out & talk. if she
hasn't learned by now, why should i GIVE A FLYING FUCK.

i can only you the advice, as well as you ( HOPEFULLY ) will use it to
good use. but, if you want to keep putting yourself in that situation
than you deserve what you have thrown to you.

it's no difference, than the women who stay in ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS.
if your going to keep making EXCUSES for his actions, stay with him, and
protect him too, than why should anyone of us care at all.

it's quite OBVIOUS, women are drawn to these types of men. only, to have
the decent one's to stand by and listen to you wallow inself PITY.

 

I swear to god you generalize so much about women you're just like the ones you talk about. I mean you get butt hurt by them and then you go to a forum and talk shit about women because you can't figure out what you're doing wrong yourself. Just like the ones that have abusive relationships, stay in them and then go bitch to a guy friend about it.

Not all women are like you say. Some have a right fucking head on their shoulders.
I know I'm only in college, but I'm sure "adult life" is not so different than college. You have your sorority sluts (the women who will ask to go with you to Hawaii) and the rest of women (who work hard for what they want and actually seek a good relationship). But your disgusting attitude that all women are the same as sorority sluts is what probably makes you such a turn off to the rest of us.
My god, nothing is worse than a man who bitches so much about women. That's all you do. There's nothing else to you, honey. And that's your fucking problem. JUST like the women who bitch constantly about men. You all belong in the same bitter group together.

 

Geraldo,
You have just been exposed to a few shallow bitches. There are tons of cool chicks who would love to have a loving relationship with you. My advise: get out of your regular routine. Go take a class at a community college, join a wine tasting or gardening club, something that you are interested in where you will meet different people. Don't make the goal to meet women but by being active in your community, you will meet cool chicks. And do the eharmony, plenty of fish, match dot com or other singles meeting sites as well.
Cheers.

 

Just saw this now, thank you for your support as a male!

:rose:

 

There's got to be a few of us left, I'd rather be a bit old fashioned than blinded by my dick and your more than welcome

 

Geraldo, I don't think you'll have much luck getting any idea of a general "what women want" as if our desires are any more monolithic than yours. As others have pointed out, it'd also help to keep in mind the distinction between sexual fantasy and what a person actually seeks out for partnership.

Even then, though, your "anal from a black guy" example seems awfully specific.

Also, dear Dalia and Milo...

 

LOL

WRONG AGAIN

i do NOT, generalized all women being the same. i never said that.
what i said was, alot of women claim they want a nice guy. BUT, in all
reality you want some guy is somewhat of a bad boy.

( example )

i have a cousin a year younger than me. he has the " gift to gab " when
it comes to women. he could charm them to the point in getting their
number(s), shortly after talking get them in bed, lie his ass off to them
" not " having a girlfriend, and show up late for events or not show up
at all.

on top of that, still get the girls to take him back or believe his bullshit.
he did this for many years. couldn't figure it out at all.

he would ALWAYS call me " BUSTER POINDEXTER " aka the
" TOO NICE OF A GUY ". he told me quit being nice and/or too nice to
women. he told me it will NOT get me anywhere with them at all.

he told me i need to be like him. a : WOMANIZER, CHEATER, A FLIRT,
A PATHELOGICAL LIAR WHEN DEALING WITH WOMEN, WHAT TO SAY &
NOT TO SAY, IN GETTING THEIR PANTIES OFF.

i told him that wasn't me at all. he just look at me and laughed. he told me
i would never get anywhere with women, and i need ignore them from time
to time, and lie to them to get what i want at times.

still, that's not me. i did things my way. for 20 years, i was that
NICE GUY who was stuck in the friends zone. i respected women all
the time, i respected their space, hearts, opinions, body's, and even
open doors for them.

hell, i even didn't expect nothing in return believe it or not. i did everything
i was suppose to do as a man, and what my mom taught me coming up.
still, i was in that " friend zone ". after the 20 years of the friend zone,

i started being an " ASS HOLE/JERK " from time to time. women i know
call me an ass too. but, they laugh at me and still accept me in their
circle of friendship(s). i tend to be outspoken & sarcastic at times too.

the ladies are shock at times, by what i say. whether it's sexual or
indirectly at about anyone.

as far as the " PLATONIC FRIEND " about HAWAII, why would i spend all
that money on someone who is not involved with me ?. that's like,
going to a hooker and knowingly your not going to get laid.

as far as this friend goes, that was the only time pretty much i would here
from her. when ever she was depress, lonely, bored, and wanted to get
out the house, she has/had no problems in calling me to go out.

i would make the " 1 hour & a half drive " to her home to pick her up.
we would go to the batting cage or movie, right before dinner & talk.
she also was very secretive too. she wanted to know your business.

BUT, she was well reserved when it came to herself. i would question her
about this from time to time. she admits to being VERY NOSY too.
i dealt with this over a 13/14 year period. i got tired of hearing of

how lonely she was, how she wanted to get married, how she wanted
another baby, how she wanted a guy to be about her & not sex.

well guess what ?. she had a guy who was like that. " ME ".
i even express my feelings for her on a few occasions at that. i wasn't
forceful/demanding in any way. i also allowed to sink in.

( at least in my mine )

i even brought it up one time over dinner. she quickly cut me off by saying
( my name ) don't. im like, don't what ?. she responds don't do this.
so, instead of causing an arguement, i just let it go.

i spoke to other friends of both sexes, who know the both us about as long as we known her. told them of the situation. both sexes believe it or not,
said she is " just using me for my money ". i was in complete denial
about it all.

they said, if she was really into you, she would have made a move long
ago. as time went by, i woke up and saw what they saw. i was so mad,
angry, & depress, i actually thought about SUICIDE at one point.

im like, why couldn't she just come out & tell me, im not her type ?. whats
so hard for a woman to do that ?. i still kept buying expensive gifts for
her and taken her out.

i had to bring that to an end. last year. she met my mom on Christmas
with my side of the family for the very first time. i been met her side years ago. i told her in January how she seeks ATTENTION. eventhough she

tries to deny it. i lso told her that, i would rather hang out with my guy
friends than a woman. at least, i don't have to keep coming out of
pocket and cater to them. with the guys, it's everybody for themselves
in paying.

i also told her that, her message was getting old. she needed to lower
her standards to find a guy, if she wants one in her life. she stated she
was going to stop calling me. although, i don't believe her.

for 3 months, neither one called each other. until, the night of her 40th
birthday. i text her at midnight happy birthday. she quickly responded back.
she ask me to call her. i did and we spoke for an hour, got off the phone
and went to bed.

before that, the last time i spoke/heard her voice was on JANUARY 27th.
the last time we text was on FEBRUARY 5th. i chose to PURPOSELY,
NOT to text her on VALENTINE'S DAY.

she told me month's before, she wasn't concerned about Valentine's Day.
that was my GREEN CARD in not buying or calling her. besides, i had plans
with a young co-worker anyway on that day.

( ANYWAY ) my point is this. you & everyone is ENTITLED to your opinions
of me. i truly have love, respect, for all women. it just get tiring, to hear
a woman complain about not their being any good men.

when we do present ourselves to you all, you will find some minor flaw
about us & focus on that flaw, as your excuse in not wanting to be
bothered for whatever the reason is.

your a young college girl. your still growing, maturing, & learning. you
don't see the world from the eyes of someone much older than you.

TRUST ME, i have experienced & seen alot of things women do, which
doesn't make since or the excuses they have.

i didn't mean to insult you earlier. i see a cycle that forever revolves
itself. women have to compete among themselves for whatever reason(s)
they have.

MEN, on the other hand DON'T compete with each other. if anything, we
accept things the way they are or, work on what may need to be
changed.

 

Interesting

Great thread with some awesome replies!! Love to come to this site to watch the porn & read the threads that require more thought process than do you like anal sex?? Or would you swallow my cum?? Lmao shows there are some real people out here that have brains but also loves to talk about sex!!! I think women know exactly what they want but sometimes they end up settling cause they just can't seem to find the perfect man. We want to be paid attention to and understood. We want a guy to actually be there for us not only for great sex but for great conversation and laughs. If a guy has a great personality , a sense of humor and knows how to please a woman then he's a keeper!!

 

Believe it or not almost the same is true of what a guy wants in a girl and we also sometimes settle for less but IMO all these things can be remedied through communication.

Honest and open communication.

G'night all.

thinskin

 

I came just reading that. :rose: