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  1. Distant Lover

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    False Dichotomy

    A dichotomy is a set of two mutually exclusive, jointly exhaustive alternatives. Dichotomies are typically expressed with the words "either" and "or", like this: "Either the test is wrong or the program is wrong."

    A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither.
    http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FalseDichotomy

    Every freedom I care about is honored in the Social Democracies of Scandinavia, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
     
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  2. Distant Lover

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    He has not surrounded himself with "Communists/Marxists all [sic] of his life."

    At the universities of Columbia, Harvard, and Chicago he probably knew some and liked them. I have known members of the American Communist Party. I have always liked them, although we disagreed on specific issues.

    http://www.cpusa.org/
     
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  3. Distant Lover

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    The reason that dictators called themselves "socialists" during the twentieth century was because they knew that in their countries it was a popular ideal.

    In the following thread I pointed out that socialism is becoming popular in the United States too.

    https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=260333

    This does not mean that Marxism is becoming popular. Marxism is only one variety of socialist thinking. In The Communist Manifesto Karl Marx distinguished what he advocated from other varieties of socialism.

    He mentioned Feudal Socialism - which included Christian Socialism - Petty-Bourgeois Socialism, German or “True” Socialism, Bourgeois Socialism, and Critical-Utopian Socialism.

    http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm
     
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    Did President Obama say during his run for the presidency that he was not in favor of a single payer health plan, or that he never advocated such a program? That is an important distinction.

    I am in favor of a single payer health plan, and strong labor unions.

    Saul Alinsky, whom I admire, was never the leader of the S.E.I.U.

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    When asked during an interview whether he ever considered becoming a Communist party member, he replied:

    Not at any time. I've never joined any organization—not even the ones I've organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it's Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're right.' If you don't have that, if you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide.[4]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
     
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    Bill Ayers never killed anyone. President Clinton never let him out of prison. During the Clinton administration he was enjoying a successful career as a professor at the University of Illinois.
     
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    Do you really want me to start posting things Obama said "during his run for the presidency" that have been proven to be nothing more than outright bold face LIES!?!?
     
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    And as you think that you are to be taken seriously.

    DL,,I truly have no understanding about you or your authentic OPINIONS, or ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,,,,anything at all about you............
     
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    NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,spare us all,,,spare us all.....:rolleyes:
     
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  9. Distant Lover

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    Bill Ayers: Obama should be tried for war crimes

    If Bill Ayers ever visited the White House it was as a tourist. I do not believe he would receive a personal invitation.

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    The Washington Post By Aaron Blake, Published: June 18 at 1:57 pm

    Bill Ayers, whose relationship with President Obama was the subject of much intrigue during Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, now says the president should be tried for war crimes.

    Ayers, the former Weather Underground member and University of Illinois at Chicago professor, told Real Clear Politics that Obama is “absolutely” engaged in terrorist activity by using drones and “absolutely” should be tried for war crimes.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...l-ayers-obama-should-be-tried-for-war-crimes/

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    Saul Alinsky died in 1972.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

    I do not believe President Nixon invited him to the White House.
     
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  10. Distant Lover

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    Go ahead, and document that they are lies. By this I mean they have to be factual assertions that were not true when he made them, and we can be reasonably sure he knew they were not true.
     
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    I know what it is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's not Obama's fault,Obama is the victim, aint that right???????
     
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  12. Distant Lover

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    Jeffieboy,

    By giving your harangue more attention than it deserved I have exposed you as a poorly informed and hysterical crank. I am not saying that you lied. It is clear to me that you are so credulous and ignorant that you believed lies told to you by the Republican Hate Machine.

    You are an example of Obama Derangement Syndrome and white social pathology. The fact that a black man is in the White House has unhinged what little existed of your intellect.
     
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  13. Distant Lover

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    Where is proof of the lies you promised?
     
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    Lies During Fourth Year

    “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”
    Politifact.com
    “Mitt Romney raised nursing home fees eight times.”
    Politifact.com
    “Mitt Romney called the Arizona law a model for the nation.”
    Politifact.com
    “Planned Parenthood provides mammograms”
    Spero News
    “We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system”
    cbsnews.com
    Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations
    State Department
    “Mitt Romney Plans to fire Big Bird”
    Politifact.com
    “Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”
    politifact.com
    Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.”
    politifact.com
    “I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”
    abcnews.com
    Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
    Factcheck.org
    My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
    Factcheck.org
    “I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
    House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)
    The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
    Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors
    “You Didn’t Build that”
    A few examples
    Lies During Third Year

    I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
    Youtube
    In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.
    www.breitbart.com
    I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever
    Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya
    Weapons pour into Gaza
    Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
    Examiner

    “Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
    Like Raising taxes?

    Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
    He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.

    GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
    Dems Rejected Jobs Bill

    You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
    Gallup Poll: Only 69%

    These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.
    Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama

    Jobs Bill Paid for
    Seems not so much Paid for

    Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
    Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11

    I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
    American.com

    USA producing more oil than ever before
    Petroleum Insights

    Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
    Department of Homeland Security says 5%

    Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
    National Taxpayers Union

    Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
    Cnn Interview
    Lies During Second Year

    Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.
    nationalreview.com
    No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
    Obama Lies to Keep Czars

    No “boots” on the ground Libya
    Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground
    Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
    Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill

    All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
    Obama Memo

    I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
    Obama’s Schedule

    The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
    Campaign and Presidency
    If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
    TownHall

    “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
    U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.

    ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
    Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans

    We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
    Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010

    Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
    Arizona Immigration Law

    Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
    Claims never documented

    The Health Care Package will pay for itself
    Time

    Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.
    Hmm Immigration?
    We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
    Democratic Debate Lies

    Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas
    Video Proof
    I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
    Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.

    I got the Message from Massachusetts
    Daily Bail

    Lies During First Year

    We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
    AP fact Checker

    Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
    AP fact Checker

    Collective salvation
    Obama calls himself a Christian

    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
    Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009
    Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
    Associated Press Video

    Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
    Obama Lies

    As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
    ABC

    Recovery Act will save or create jobs
    ABC News

    Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
    Obama Lies

    No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
    CNN

    I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
    Specator.Org

    We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
    Obama Lies

    I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
    NPR

    Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
    Council on Foreign Relations.

    Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
    Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes

    List of Tax Promise Violations

    2008 Campaign Lies

    I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain
    Youtube
    No more wiretapping of citizens
    Youtube

    Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
    News Busters

    I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
    United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

    Obama campaign would accept public funding
    ABC

    Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
    A Socialist

    Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
    Mounting Heath Care Lies

    Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
    Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.
    Would have the most transparent administration in History
    Cato Institute
    We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
    Boston Globe

    I have visited all 57 states.
    Snopes

    I’ll get rid of earmarks
    Source: Any bill passed during presidency

    When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
    Campaign Speech

    My father served in World War II.
    The Videos and the Facts

    Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
    News Video

    Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
    YouTube

    Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
    He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.
    Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
    NPR

    I Won Michigan
    Huffington Post

    I won Nevada
    The Nation

    I don’t Have Lobbyists
    US News

    My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
    Crooks and Liars

    I Have Always Been Against Iraq
    Washington Post

    My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
    CNN

    Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
    Obama Campaign Video

    I Barely Know Rezko
    Sun Times

    My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
    ABC News


    http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies
     
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  15. Distant Lover

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    Your lack of understanding is unfathomable. :cool:
     
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    LOL so fucking funny.
     
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    First off we are talking about your comrade obama. And yes he has said he hate the constitution. U-tube him. He has said several times that the CONSTITUTION is out dated and antiquated. Just his way of saying he hates it. He has said in speeches to unions that the CONSTITUTION should be re written or scraped.
    He just gave a commencement speech at a university and he said we shouldn't be celebrating the 4th of July. We had no right to revolt against the British government. It was a working government and there was nothing wrong with it. U-Tube it. Google it. Or are you waiting to have the media tell you what to think?

    I can't believe your so naïve and blind. You have a computer that you can look up anything from any source and compare them, but you don't. You just sit and listen to Chris the pussy Mathews and that dike Rachel Maddow. And that little British bitch Morgan. He has no right to speak about our country and what goes on. Send his liberal pussy ass back to England.
     
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